Engine design at accessories? kaya na ba?

[jpdm]

^There's absolutely no practicality in that thing! But hey, they can make one, so they did...

Correct.

And thats the whole point.

They dreamed (of a solar car) and made it a reality.

[ghosthunter]

I didnt say that. You did

er... wait, I think you said this...

Umm...reality check....Why should we start exporting rice (which we import), if we are already exporting cars (Ford)?

and then this...

Simply because we dont have industrial nor agricultural capacity to produce our own goods and services for our needs. You mentioned rice (export)for vehicles (import). Our imports are more expensive than our exports. Thats why we always incur massive trade deficits (8 billion dollars last year)

It seems you were refering to the point that an industrialized solution would be the "solution" for the philippines.... I was saying a more agri-solution would have been better. Ironically, you wave the "greenpeace" flag around yet you fail to consider my views might actually be "greener" than blindly pushing through with a plan that is bound to fail under it's own shortcomings.

Anyway, the Filipino can, in the future!

[ghosthunter]

The Filipino Can!

The SINAG, based in De La Salle University in the Philippines, (Filipino for "sunray") is the first philippine Solar-Powered Race Car and the first entry of the Philippines to the World Solar Challenge.

LOL! ... I proposed the same thing back in the early 90s in DLSU and it was turned down due to lack of sponsorships (P250,000 for the bare minimum solar panels alone isn't cheap back in the 90s). Ironically my design utilized nearly all parts from local sources and manufacturing capabilties except for the electric drive motor/controller (which was supposedly bought directly from abroad) and Kyocera solar panels (supposedly to be supplied by Yupangco, Philippine dealer of Kyocera solar panels then).

And my goal for the solar car, then, was to prove that a team of university students from a 3rd world country can build one, enter and finish the World Solar Challenge that was held every couple of years in Australia.

Too bad I already had the perfect design and build team then. Eight people that went on to build various robots, cars, automation devices, animatronics, etc even before graduating from DLSU college of engineering. I find it so funny that the SINAG required so many people to get built.

The only reason the current solar car was completed was POLITICAL more than anything else.

[ocanursjr]

Correct.

And thats the whole point.

They dreamed (of a solar car) and made it a reality.

See people...yes the Filipino can!

[jpdm]

quote=ghosthunter;1315561]er... wait, I think you said this...

Originally Posted by jpdm
Simply because we dont have industrial nor agricultural capacity to produce our own goods and services for our needs. You mentioned rice (export)for vehicles (import). Our imports are more expensive than our exports. Thats why we always incur massive trade deficits (8 billion dollars last year)

Fact.

Originally Posted by jpdm
Umm...reality check....Why should we start exporting rice (which we import), if we are already exporting cars (Ford)?

Fact.

I find it ironic given YOU said we can stop agri-based exports when we have developed car based exports.

Speculation.

[quote]

I didnt say that. You did

Fact.Because obviously I did not say the word STOP from those quoted statements and

I never said WE CAN STOP AGRI-BASED EXPORTS when have developed car based exports.

It seems you were refering to the point that an industrialized solution would be the "solution" for the philippines.... I was saying a more agri-solution would have been better. Ironically, you wave the "greenpeace" flag around yet you fail to consider my views might actually be "greener" than blindly pushing through with a plan that is bound to fail under it's own shortcomings.

Agri-solution thats not mean greener. By the way heard about greener industrial technology

Anyway, the Filipino can, in the future!

Err...Where is the punchline?

[jpdm]

LOL! ... I proposed the same thing back in the early 90s in DLSU and it was turned down due to lack of sponsorships (P250,000 for the bare minimum solar panels alone isn't cheap back in the 90s). Ironically my design utilized nearly all parts from local sources and manufacturing capabilties except for the electric drive motor/controller (which was supposedly bought directly from abroad) and Kyocera solar panels (supposedly to be supplied by Yupangco, Philippine dealer of Kyocera solar panels then).

Thats good news for me. "The Filipino Can!"

And my goal for the solar car, then, was to prove that a team of university students from a 3rd world country can build one, enter and finish the World Solar Challenge that was held every couple of years in Australia.

Again, very commendable goal.

Too bad I already had the perfect design and build team then. Eight people that went on to build various robots, cars, automation devices, animatronics, etc even before graduating from DLSU college of engineering. I find it so funny that the SINAG required so many people to get built.The only reason the current solar car was completed was POLITICAL more than anything else

Talking about negativity.So what is this sourgraping?

Fact is they have built one..that works.

And they deserved to be congratulated.

And before underestimating these young people, where is your perfect design and solar car?

Why not look at this project in a positive way for a change? Besides its your alma mater.

[jpdm]

See people...yes the Filipino can!

Definitely Agree!

[roberto_minosa]

Guys, I see Tsikot as a tight-knit community of folks interested in cars and other stuff attributable to cars. But there's so much conflict of ideas that it makes me think that us Filipinos can make an engine of our own. Maybe the Filipino people as a team can't make an engine, but I'd do my best so that roberto_minosa can.

[jpdm]

Guys, I see Tsikot as a tight-knit community of folks interested in cars and other stuff attributable to cars. But there's so much conflict of ideas that it makes me think that us Filipinos can make an engine of our own.

Agree.

Maybe the Filipino people as a team can't make an engine, but I'd do my best so that roberto_minosa can.

That's the spirit!

I will be your no. 1 fan!

[uls]

this Filipino can thing is really getting old

that solar car?

high school kids in the States can build their own solar cars without corporate sponsorship

big deal

[ehnriko]

Ika nga... ginawa lang ng tao yan... Bakit hindi? - WHY NOT? :-)

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[jpdm]

this Filipino can thing is really getting old

that solar car?

high school kids in the States can build their own solar cars without corporate sponsorship

big deal

Even this great effort done (Sinag car is the first Philippines solar car made by Pinoy students and first Philippine entry that competed in Australia's solar car race) by young DLSU students?

Im sure the students did not just spend a few bucks, time and effort for doing this project.

Still, no appreciation at all?

[ehnriko]

The Question is wrong..."If the Filipino Can?"

The Answer is right: Of course...

The Correct Question is: "If the Filipino Will?"...

[jpdm]

The Question is wrong..."If the Filipino Can?"

The Answer is right: Of course...

The Correct Question is: "If the Filipino Will?"...

This is true and I agree!

[uls]

why is it pinoys have to go all the way to Saudi Arabia to build truck cabins?

why not just build them here and export them to Saudi Arabia?

coz nobody here is willing to take money out of their bank accounts to finance the building of truck cabins here

that's why pinoys have to go abroad to buiild/produce stuff for foreigners

we have to export people instead of products

if somebody financed ehnriko and his team to build truck cabins here, they wouldnt have to go thru whatever they went thru abroad

they wouldnt have been separated from their families

they wouldnt have been maltreated by foreigners

DI NAMAN QUESTION ANG KAKAYAHAN NG PINOY

magaling ang pinoy

yun nga lang kailangan pa pumunta sa abroad para mapakita ang galing

at ang nakikinabang sa galing ng pinoy ay ang mga foreigner

look at the bigger picture dudes

that's the role of the Phils. in the world

sa mata ng mga mayaman na bansa, supplier lang tayo ng tao

[uls]

Even this great effort done (Sinag car is the first Philippines solar car made by Pinoy students and first Philippine entry that competed in Australia's solar car race) by young DLSU students?

Im sure the students did not just spend a few bucks, time and effort for doing this project.

Still, no appreciation at all?

again, no big deal

that's something high school students in the States do

they've been doing it since 1995

wiki:

The Dell-Winston School Solar Car Challenge is an annual solar-powered car race for high school students. The event attracts teams from around the world, but mostly from American high schools. The race was first held in 1995.

The objective of this competition is to motivate high school students in science, engineering, and technology and to learn about solar power. Teams will design, fund, build, and run a vehicle that is powered only by solar power.

[bambino]

karamihan sa industrialized nations meron funds na natatanggap ang mga start-ups .

meron din sila na tinatawag na development bank to support the business and it's available to everyone who has a great idea.


sa atin ba meron yung ganito?

dito sa CANADA kung meron nagdesign ng product ,pupuntahan agad yan ng scientist from the government to see if it's working and then brief the person from A TO Z .

[uls]

kahit hindi govt, meron mga galing sa private sector

mga venture capitalist

if you have a worthy project, they will finance you

dito wala

pero dito, pag may foreigner na nagsabi kailangan niya ng mga bartender para sa mga cruise ship... meron dito gagawa ng bartending school

[roberto_minosa]

why is it pinoys have to go all the way to Saudi Arabia to build truck cabins?

why not just build them here and export them to Saudi Arabia?

coz nobody here is willing to take money out of their bank accounts to finance the building of truck cabins here

that's why pinoys have to go abroad to buiild/produce stuff for foreigners

Right! Rich people leave their money in bank accounts and wait for the interest to grow rather than invest in progress. They don't spend their money well. Now, circulation of money stops, they keep their cash, and grow it through interest.

Good thing for some manufacturers like MCX motorcycles, they make their own bikes with engine designs from Honda. And I'd say that their bikes are almost at par with the Jap brands in terms of build quality. The brand just needs momentum to get into the mainstream buyers. If it does, it's investment money well spent.

[roberto_minosa]

That's the spirit!

I will be your no. 1 fan!

Ayos! May fan na ko! Funds na lang ang kulang. Hehehe...
Thanks dude!