puno ang freon

**dcarlo187** · May 28th, 2009 10:49 AM

guys panu malaman kung puno ang freon?anu dapat makikita sa sight glass?i just had my aircon fixed and freon refilled.d ako sure kung puno cia.sabi nla dapat clear makikita sa sight glass.hindi clear ang nakikita ko.fluid cia n may pagkawhite.pag ganun naman daw konti lng daw laman.nu b talaga.

**shadow** · May 28th, 2009 11:47 AM

dapat clear and walang bubbles...parang ganyan sinasabi dati ng mga gumagawa sa A/C ng cars ko, matagal tagal na rin kasi akong hinde nagpapagawa ng A/C

**Sarsi** · May 28th, 2009 12:17 PM

TS, bawal ang text typing. naka computer ka, di ka naka cellphone.

naintndhn mb?

**XTO** · May 28th, 2009 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by dcarlo187

guys panu malaman kung puno ang freon?anu dapat makikita sa sight glass?i just had my aircon fixed and freon refilled.d ako sure kung puno cia.sabi nla dapat clear makikita sa sight glass.hindi clear ang nakikita ko.fluid cia n may pagkawhite.pag ganun naman daw konti lng daw laman.nu b talaga.

as long as tumutusok sa balat ang lamig when max thermostat okay na

or hindi siya umuusok (sa vent ha) IMO hindi ka naman nadaya. may tamang pressure (psi) kasi ang pag load ng refrigerant depende sa compressor.

**XTO** · May 28th, 2009 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by dcarlo187

guys panu malaman kung puno ang freon?anu dapat makikita sa sight glass?i just had my aircon fixed and freon refilled.d ako sure kung puno cia.sabi nla dapat clear makikita sa sight glass.hindi clear ang nakikita ko.fluid cia n may pagkawhite.pag ganun naman daw konti lng daw laman.nu b talaga.

as long as tumutusok sa balat ang lamig when max thermostat okay na

or hindi siya umuusok (sa vent ha) IMO hindi ka naman nadaya. may tamang pressure (psi) kasi ang pag load ng refrigerant depende sa compressor.

**dcarlo187** · May 28th, 2009 11:26 PM

anu ibig sabihin pag umuusok sa vent?sabi hindi daw dapat puno ang freon kasi mahirapan daw ang compressor at baka sumabog daw mga hose pag overcharge.tingin nyo?

**den1106** · May 29th, 2009 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by dcarlo187

guys panu malaman kung puno ang freon?anu dapat makikita sa sight glass?i just had my aircon fixed and freon refilled.d ako sure kung puno cia.sabi nla dapat clear makikita sa sight glass.hindi clear ang nakikita ko.fluid cia n may pagkawhite.pag ganun naman daw konti lng daw laman.nu b talaga.

Dito kasi sa atin dalawa ginagamit na refrigerant - R12 at R134a. Kung [SIZE="4"]R12[/SIZE] pa ang freon ng iyong sasakyan isang indication yung clear glass na ok na ang karga ng aircon.

Ang problema nasa [SIZE="4"]R134a[/SIZE], if you tried to clear the glass puwedeng ma-overcharge ang system. Kung walang proper equipment at data it needs a lot of experience to do it right.

Originally Posted by dcarlo187

sabi hindi daw dapat puno ang freon kasi mahirapan daw ang compressor at baka sumabog daw mga hose pag overcharge.tingin nyo?

Pag-ganito ang sinasabi sa 'yo ng technician mo, tumakbo ka na lang ng mabilis palayo sa kanya. Hanap ka na lang ng ibang shop.

**shadow** · May 29th, 2009 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by den1106

Dito kasi sa atin dalawa ginagamit na refrigerant - R12 at R134a. Kung [SIZE=4]R12[/SIZE] pa ang freon ng iyong sasakyan isang indication yung clear glass na ok na ang karga ng aircon.

Ang problema nasa [SIZE=4]R134a[/SIZE], if you tried to clear the glass puwedeng ma-overcharge ang system. Kung walang proper equipment at data it needs a lot of experience to do it right.

Pag-ganito ang sinasabi sa 'yo ng technician mo, tumakbo ka na lang ng mabilis palayo sa kanya. Hanap ka na lang ng ibang shop.

meron pa ba gumagamit ng R12? matagal ng bawal yan diba?

**jick.cejoco** · May 29th, 2009 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by dcarlo187

guys panu malaman kung puno ang freon?anu dapat makikita sa sight glass?i just had my aircon fixed and freon refilled.d ako sure kung puno cia.sabi nla dapat clear makikita sa sight glass.hindi clear ang nakikita ko.fluid cia n may pagkawhite.pag ganun naman daw konti lng daw laman.nu b talaga.

dcarlo,
although some third world countries still use R12 dichlorodifluromethane(freon r), the earth friendly refrigerant replacement is R134a. if you still have the sight glass on your system, do not use it as a basis for checking if you have the right amount of charge. the sight glass checks are long gone. if your airconditioning system or climate control only uses sight glass if it were an expansion valve type and that it uses freon r. if it uses R143a, the sightglass is no longer built into the receiver/drier. if your system is of the orifice type, i will not have a sight glass. your technical expert should have the table for refrigerant charge for different cars converted to R143a system and that he must know the pressure specs and must know the pressure/temperature chart. otherwise he is guessing. you might be paying him to be a manghuhula and not as a climate control technician.
jick
certified auto
guam

**kinyo** · May 29th, 2009 08:32 PM

rough guide yung sight glass ... kapag steady yung bubbles (fine bubbles make whitish appearance), kulang lang ng kaunti yung freon, dagdag lang ng kaunti, mawawala na yung bubbles, magiging clear na

karamihan sa mga aircon shops hindi gumagamit ng chart ... wala pa nga ako nakitang gumamit ng chart eh ... titignan lang yung pressure gauges nila, kapag umabot na sa typical value, yun na yun ... hindi na rin tumitingin sa sight glass ... sabay buhusan ng tubig yung condenser, natural lalong lalamig yun, tuwa naman ang customer

**bambino** · May 29th, 2009 09:18 PM

the best jan para makasigurado gumamit ng weighing scale para precise ang charging .

pag medyo luma na ang compressor , mas maganda kung undercharged ng 10% para may protection .

**dealermate** · August 27th, 2009 03:25 AM

para malaman mo kung tama na freon charge ng ac mo dapat may manifold gauge ka at alam mo din bumasa o gumamit nito, wag ka maniniwala sa bubbles sa sight glass ng filter drier depende din kasi sa kakayahan ng condenser mo kung kaya nya macondense lahat ng freon na ikinarga mo pangalawa pa rito kung may moisture ang system

**raine** · August 27th, 2009 03:40 AM

sa service manual ng civic meron itong chart, kailangan i plot mo ang air trmp sa humidity at dito mo makukuha ang dapat na output temp, high pressure port (psi), and low pressure port (psi). noong nag paservice ako ng aircon ginamit ko ito, tama naman ang mga reading kaya satisfied ako.

**jick.cejoco** · August 27th, 2009 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by jick.cejoco

dcarlo,
although some third world countries still use R12 dichlorodifluromethane(freon r), the earth friendly refrigerant replacement is R134a. if you still have the sight glass on your system, do not use it as a basis for checking if you have the right amount of charge. the sight glass checks are long gone. if your airconditioning system or climate control only uses sight glass if it were an expansion valve type and that it uses freon r. if it uses R143a, the sightglass is no longer built into the receiver/drier. if your system is of the orifice type, i will not have a sight glass. your technical expert should have the table for refrigerant charge for different cars converted to R143a system and that he must know the pressure specs and must know the pressure/temperature chart. otherwise he is guessing. you might be paying him to be a manghuhula and not as a climate control technician.
jick
certified auto
guam

if you are not sure about the knowledge, diagnostic skills and repair skills of your "mechanic", go to a trained and certified technician who is equipped and has the experience

**dest** · August 27th, 2009 06:50 AM

Dapat yong tamang tama yong freon mailalagay. may ilang gumagawa. tinitingnan yong bubbles sa sight glass ng filter drier. Kasi doon tinitingan, sira yata gauge nila.

**bambino** · August 27th, 2009 08:43 AM

manifold gauge can't measure the amount of refrigerant in the system .

only weighing scale does .

ac machines equipped with weighing scale will do the right job .

**mechanixx** · August 27th, 2009 08:58 AM

mga sir anu kaya blema ng oto ko? hilaw ang lamig nya hindi nalamig buo sakyan? wala ako makita glass para sa freon and hindi na nagpapawis ung parang capsule shape...dati kase nagpapawis un na malamig ngaun hindi na even patakbuhin ko sakyan ng 3kls....ty!

**mechanixx** · August 27th, 2009 08:59 AM

it was a ford explorer sporttrac 2001 by the way........

**jick.cejoco** · August 27th, 2009 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by mechanixx

it was a ford explorer sporttrac 2001 by the way........

mechanix,
your system is closed circuit orifice type. on an evaporator type, the capsule looking thingy or the drier is a RECEIVER/DRIER and is installed in the high side, this capsule thingy is going to be hot because of the hight pressure and of course high temperature; your system is orifice type and the ACCUMULATOR/DRIER is in the low side hence it will be cold and since it is on the low side, the refrigerant will be in a cold gaseous stage where if you were to see it, will be bubbly.
jick

**mechanixx** · August 27th, 2009 12:27 PM

panu ba malalaman eh wala glass ako makita and talaga bang nauubos ang freon kahit wala leak or mauubus lang pag may leak?dati malamig un capsule eh nagpapawis pa pag hinawakan ko ngaun wala na...pero may natulo pa rin na tubig sa ilalim na malamig...pero ung buga nya pag naandar lang nalamig pero hindi na nya kaya palamigin buo sakyan even sagad termo

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