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  1. dcarlo187
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    May 28th, 2009 10:49 AM #1
    guys panu malaman kung puno ang freon?anu dapat makikita sa sight glass?i just had my aircon fixed and freon refilled.d ako sure kung puno cia.sabi nla dapat clear makikita sa sight glass.hindi clear ang nakikita ko.fluid cia n may pagkawhite.pag ganun naman daw konti lng daw laman.nu b talaga.
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    May 28th, 2009 11:47 AM #2
    dapat clear and walang bubbles...parang ganyan sinasabi dati ng mga gumagawa sa A/C ng cars ko, matagal tagal na rin kasi akong hinde nagpapagawa ng A/C
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    May 28th, 2009 12:17 PM #3
    TS, bawal ang text typing. naka computer ka, di ka naka cellphone.

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    May 28th, 2009 12:34 PM #4
    Quote Originally Posted by dcarlo187 View Post
    guys panu malaman kung puno ang freon?anu dapat makikita sa sight glass?i just had my aircon fixed and freon refilled.d ako sure kung puno cia.sabi nla dapat clear makikita sa sight glass.hindi clear ang nakikita ko.fluid cia n may pagkawhite.pag ganun naman daw konti lng daw laman.nu b talaga.
    as long as tumutusok sa balat ang lamig when max thermostat okay na or hindi siya umuusok (sa vent ha) IMO hindi ka naman nadaya. may tamang pressure (psi) kasi ang pag load ng refrigerant depende sa compressor.
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    May 28th, 2009 12:41 PM #5
    Quote Originally Posted by dcarlo187 View Post
    guys panu malaman kung puno ang freon?anu dapat makikita sa sight glass?i just had my aircon fixed and freon refilled.d ako sure kung puno cia.sabi nla dapat clear makikita sa sight glass.hindi clear ang nakikita ko.fluid cia n may pagkawhite.pag ganun naman daw konti lng daw laman.nu b talaga.
    as long as tumutusok sa balat ang lamig when max thermostat okay na or hindi siya umuusok (sa vent ha) IMO hindi ka naman nadaya. may tamang pressure (psi) kasi ang pag load ng refrigerant depende sa compressor.
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    May 28th, 2009 11:26 PM #6
    anu ibig sabihin pag umuusok sa vent?sabi hindi daw dapat puno ang freon kasi mahirapan daw ang compressor at baka sumabog daw mga hose pag overcharge.tingin nyo?
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    May 29th, 2009 03:38 PM #7
    Quote Originally Posted by dcarlo187 View Post
    guys panu malaman kung puno ang freon?anu dapat makikita sa sight glass?i just had my aircon fixed and freon refilled.d ako sure kung puno cia.sabi nla dapat clear makikita sa sight glass.hindi clear ang nakikita ko.fluid cia n may pagkawhite.pag ganun naman daw konti lng daw laman.nu b talaga.
    Dito kasi sa atin dalawa ginagamit na refrigerant - R12 at R134a. Kung [SIZE="4"]R12[/SIZE] pa ang freon ng iyong sasakyan isang indication yung clear glass na ok na ang karga ng aircon.

    Ang problema nasa [SIZE="4"]R134a[/SIZE], if you tried to clear the glass puwedeng ma-overcharge ang system. Kung walang proper equipment at data it needs a lot of experience to do it right.


    Quote Originally Posted by dcarlo187 View Post
    sabi hindi daw dapat puno ang freon kasi mahirapan daw ang compressor at baka sumabog daw mga hose pag overcharge.tingin nyo?
    Pag-ganito ang sinasabi sa 'yo ng technician mo, tumakbo ka na lang ng mabilis palayo sa kanya. Hanap ka na lang ng ibang shop.
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    May 29th, 2009 04:08 PM #8
    Quote Originally Posted by den1106 View Post
    Dito kasi sa atin dalawa ginagamit na refrigerant - R12 at R134a. Kung [SIZE=4]R12[/SIZE] pa ang freon ng iyong sasakyan isang indication yung clear glass na ok na ang karga ng aircon.

    Ang problema nasa [SIZE=4]R134a[/SIZE], if you tried to clear the glass puwedeng ma-overcharge ang system. Kung walang proper equipment at data it needs a lot of experience to do it right.




    Pag-ganito ang sinasabi sa 'yo ng technician mo, tumakbo ka na lang ng mabilis palayo sa kanya. Hanap ka na lang ng ibang shop.
    meron pa ba gumagamit ng R12? matagal ng bawal yan diba?
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    May 29th, 2009 07:55 PM #9
    Quote Originally Posted by dcarlo187 View Post
    guys panu malaman kung puno ang freon?anu dapat makikita sa sight glass?i just had my aircon fixed and freon refilled.d ako sure kung puno cia.sabi nla dapat clear makikita sa sight glass.hindi clear ang nakikita ko.fluid cia n may pagkawhite.pag ganun naman daw konti lng daw laman.nu b talaga.

    dcarlo,
    although some third world countries still use R12 dichlorodifluromethane(freon r), the earth friendly refrigerant replacement is R134a. if you still have the sight glass on your system, do not use it as a basis for checking if you have the right amount of charge. the sight glass checks are long gone. if your airconditioning system or climate control only uses sight glass if it were an expansion valve type and that it uses freon r. if it uses R143a, the sightglass is no longer built into the receiver/drier. if your system is of the orifice type, i will not have a sight glass. your technical expert should have the table for refrigerant charge for different cars converted to R143a system and that he must know the pressure specs and must know the pressure/temperature chart. otherwise he is guessing. you might be paying him to be a manghuhula and not as a climate control technician.
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    May 29th, 2009 08:32 PM #10
    rough guide yung sight glass ... kapag steady yung bubbles (fine bubbles make whitish appearance), kulang lang ng kaunti yung freon, dagdag lang ng kaunti, mawawala na yung bubbles, magiging clear na

    karamihan sa mga aircon shops hindi gumagamit ng chart ... wala pa nga ako nakitang gumamit ng chart eh ... titignan lang yung pressure gauges nila, kapag umabot na sa typical value, yun na yun ... hindi na rin tumitingin sa sight glass ... sabay buhusan ng tubig yung condenser, natural lalong lalamig yun, tuwa naman ang customer
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