Compressor Leak?

[batusai_jr]

Just wanna clear something-

I think my car's compressor has a leak... my mechanic told me that i should replace it instead of repairing it. he said it was compressor oil that was leaking... if i had my compressor repaired it would cost me around 1k-1.5k plus the cost of freon which is 1k +... replacing it would cost me 3k-3.5k plus freon... so i i had it repaired i only had a week for warranty, replacement is 1month... in case it leaks again after being repaired and after say 2weeks which warranty does not cover, i should have it replaced, which will again cost me freon... so again he is suggesting that i have it replaced.

i consulted other mechanic, and told me if it was compressor oil that was leaking, freon should leak too within a day or two... its been a week or so and aircon was still cold... my 2nd mechanic told me that my compressor was not leaking... it was some other oil... to sum it up - - i am curious about what my 2nd mechanic told me...

Will freon leak too if my compressor oil is leaking and will make my airconditioning not cold?

Btw my car is corolla 95 2e engine

[isa1023]

I think your first mechanic is playing around with prizes, coz 1k for freon charging is just way too much. For short, ditch him.

I think the second mechanic is more honest, and yes, if there's a leak in the compressor your freon won't last a day or depending on the pressure of the leak (as per experience).

So what is the second man's suggestion?

[jackyhonta]

I have the same problem last year with my L300FB school bus...my aircon mechanic said that my compressor shaft seal is broken, his advised is to replace the compressor, an SD 7 brand new is 13k. Then my dad introduced me to his mechanic...Henry in Kawilihan Pasig...i told him of my problem...and he told me that the shaft seal can be replaced if properly installed..."ang ginawa niya ay binabad muna niya sa oil (sorry di ko alam kung anong klaseng oil siya) for 4 hours before installing it in the compressor...its been a year now and it seems there is no more leak...and if i remember mga 3k ang nagastos ko...

[roydok]

consult a 3rd A/C technician for a decisive decision.

[batusai_jr]

I think your first mechanic is playing around with prizes, coz 1k for freon charging is just way too much. For short, ditch him.

I think the second mechanic is more honest, and yes, if there's a leak in the compressor your freon won't last a day or depending on the pressure of the leak (as per experience).

So what is the second man's suggestion?

he said it couldnt be compressor oil leak...like what you said, freon wont last if theres a compressor oil leak... to think my 2nd mechanic works free of charge...

[CivicVTi]

*TS

Take your car to Ceejay's in Las Pinas if you're within the area. The people there are highly skilled and they will tell you up front if the compressor is feasibly repairable or fit to be totally replaced.

If you're in QC, I recommend Abacus along West Avenue. Look for Mr. Rene Borlongan, the proprietor. He can also give a honest advice regarding your predicament.

[batusai_jr]

thanks for the advice, i already had it fixed but it is still under observation, i hope the problem ends

[batusai_jr]

if the compressor oil is leaking and nothing is left in the compressor, will it do any damage or problem? same as with the freon? Can i still use the car with atleast the fan "on" or can i use it without it?

[CivicVTi]

If the compressor oil is leaking and nothing is left in the compressor, will it do any damage or problem?

It will damage the compressor if left untreated, the oil is used to lubricate vital moving parts. This is one of the reasons why the aircon system should be serviced once a year, it also includes relubrication of the compressor.

same as with the freon? Can i still use the car with atleast the fan "on" or can i use it without it?

You can use the blower function safely with the thermostat in the OFF position. If you turn on the thermostat and the refrigerant level is low, the system will shut down automatically in order to preserve the compressor. For cars that have modified wirings to bypass the thermostatic switch that detects low refrigerant level, this is very risky. If the thermostat/aircon system is forced to engage even with low refrigerant, then the compressor may get damaged permanently.

[batusai_jr]

It will damage the compressor if left untreated, the oil is used to lubricate vital moving parts. This is one of the reasons why the aircon system should be serviced once a year, it also includes relubrication of the compressor.



You can use the blower function safely with the thermostat in the OFF position. If you turn on the thermostat and the refrigerant level is low, the system will shut down automatically in order to preserve the compressor. For cars that have modified wirings to bypass the thermostatic switch that detects low refrigerant level, this is very risky. If the thermostat/aircon system is forced to engage even with low refrigerant, then the compressor may get damaged permanently.

sir thank you for the answer, atleast i can use the blower for air, the only problem is driving when it is raining? why are the mirrors blurring if a/c is not working? its really very hard to seen even if your blower is on... all you see is "white"... i really have to change compressor, it has already been repaired and yet it is still leaking... budget here is another problem, getting an original compressor for Toyota Corolla XE95 is expensive... it will cost me 17k i think for a brand new one, some say that surplus will only be good for a short time if im not lucky... is it ok if i modify it? i don't know what brand to use but my mechanic suggested a smaller version of my compressor, he said it is cheaper but offers the same cooling power?

Can any one give atleast an estimate for a compressor? brandnew i guess but different models or brands which are good enough

[tanatej]

From someone who also has an XE with a busted compressor :p

The mirrors and windows blur because the air outside is cooler than the air INSIDE the car where it is heated up by your body heat.... as such moisture condenses on the inside surface of the glass where you can wipe it off while inside the car. Napakadelikado magdrive sa ulan ng walang aircon kasi you cannot see outside your car due to the condensation forming on the glass, which would result in accidents that could cost more than an aircon repair.


A brand new compressor should not cost more than 4K for a Sanden SD series (SD 507, 508) that fits on a 2E engine... 17K daw? Pag nagkasya yun sa puwet niya sige bilhin ko yun.

[edgar75]

Makikisabay na rin ako sir sa thread na ito. 93 Corolla with 2E engine kasi gamit ko at halos pareho lang ang problema natin. Matagal ng may naglleak sa a/c compressor ko pero di ko pinapansin noon. pero ngaun biglang may tumutunog na sa compressor ko kpag cold start. epekto rin ba yun ng oil leak?

Isa ko pang problema ay kahit nka blower lang ako ay gumagana pa rin ang compressor ko kahit naka OFF ang thermostat.

Ano kaya ang cheap andstill good kind of compressor? Butas na bulsa ko kasi.

Thanks.

[CivicVTi]

Makikisabay na rin ako sir sa thread na ito. 93 Corolla with 2E engine kasi gamit ko at halos pareho lang ang problema natin. Matagal ng may naglleak sa a/c compressor ko pero di ko pinapansin noon. pero ngaun biglang may tumutunog na sa compressor ko kpag cold start. epekto rin ba yun ng oil leak?

Yes, ang compressor kasi kelangan din ng lubrication para hindi masira ang moving parts nya. Every time na magpapalinis tayo ng aircon system (usually every year or two) automatic na nilalagyan uli ng panibagong oil sa compressor.

Isa ko pang problema ay kahit nka blower lang ako ay gumagana pa rin ang compressor ko kahit naka OFF ang thermostat.

May diperensya sa electrical or sa switch ng thermostat sa dashboard.

Ano kaya ang cheap andstill good kind of compressor? Butas na bulsa ko kasi.

There is no such thing as a cheap but good kind of compressor. You get what you pay for.

Kung problema ang budget, pwede mo try na ipa-repair muna yung compressor. Kung hindi pa sira yung coil nya sa loob, malamang pwede pa gawan ng paraan (palit ng bearings for example).

Kung hindi na maremedyuhan, pwede ka humanap ng surplus pero di ka nakakasiguro kung magtatagal sayo yan, used na kasi eh.

[edgar75]

Thanks for the reply and info boss Civic.. Try ko mag canvass sa mga shops at tanong ko kung magkano aabutin ang repair.

[kuyabinid]

magandang araw po! pasakay na rin po ako sa thread ninyo

napansin ko na lang nung isang araw hindi na malamig ang binubuga ng aircon ng sasakyan ko (2003 mitsubishi L200 endeavor na pickup). hindi ko alam kung gradual ang pagbaba ng temperatura over the course of a few weeks or bigla na lang, basta napansin ko na lang na "pucha ang init na a" hehe

pinatingin ko sa unang nadaanan ko na aircon repair center. pinahiran ng soap water yung mga linya na dinaaranan ng freon/yung mga linyang ginagamit ng aircon. tinuro nila yung sa bandang likod-ilalim ng radiator (sa may katabi ng alternator). sabi nung tech na yung nandun na langis ay indikasyon na may sira yung compressor.

at least yun yung pagkaintindi ko hehe.

tanong ko po:

-may alam po ba kayong malupit (read: honest, affordable, mahusay) na gumagawa ng aircon ng sasakyan?
-kung totoo nga na compressor yung problema, magkano kaya aabutin ko?

ayun lang po. salamat po sa inyong oras.

[jopet26]

i have a personal machanic in kalookan named onthoy.
napaka galing po nya kayang kaya nya mga newer
vehicles like fortunner, jazz, crv...

ok po sya sir sasabihin nya sa iyo ang totoong sira
ng aircon hindi yung silip lang eh kesyo kailangan na
agad palitan.. iniisa isa muna nya and if ever
binabaklas muna even the compressor. if hindi naman
sira compressor fully he will just overhaul it.

dyan po sya sa 6th ave cor cordero st. w/ contact
number 09309495105 (call him rather than text)

[b16sir_stock]

i have a personal machanic in kalookan named onthoy.
napaka galing po nya kayang kaya nya mga newer
vehicles like fortunner, jazz, crv...

ok po sya sir sasabihin nya sa iyo ang totoong sira
ng aircon hindi yung silip lang eh kesyo kailangan na
agad palitan.. iniisa isa muna nya and if ever
binabaklas muna even the compressor. if hindi naman
sira compressor fully he will just overhaul it.

dyan po sya sa 6th ave cor cordero st. w/ contact
number 09309495105 (call him rather than text)

thanks sir nagpunta ako dito napa ok ng service galing nya at tama po titignan muna problem bago ka singilin. ok na kotse ko grabe pinapatay ko pa sobra lamig..

[batusai_jr]

tanong ko na rin, yung oil seal (i guess?) in the compressor pag pinalitan na tapos tumagas uli, ibig sabihin kailangan na talaga palitan compressor or possible na baka hindi maayos pagkakakabit nun

[weisshorn]

tanong ko na rin, yung oil seal (i guess?) in the compressor pag pinalitan na tapos tumagas uli, ibig sabihin kailangan na talaga palitan compressor or possible na baka hindi maayos pagkakakabit nun

Possible hindi maayos ang pagkakabit. Kung ang shaft ay hindi pa nag "canal" ang tapat ng seal. kung nagka canal ang shaft, ang isang paraan ay ikabit ang oil seal na hindi tatapat ang sealing lip sa canal. Ang ibang technician ay binababad muna sa langis ang oil seal bago install. Kung hindi na maremedyuhan ang problema ng shaft ang best thing to do is compressor replacement. Ito ang opinion ko.

[batusai_jr]

Possible hindi maayos ang pagkakabit. Kung ang shaft ay hindi pa nag "canal" ang tapat ng seal. kung nagka canal ang shaft, ang isang paraan ay ikabit ang oil seal na hindi tatapat ang sealing lip sa canal. Ang ibang technician ay binababad muna sa langis ang oil seal bago install. Kung hindi na maremedyuhan ang problema ng shaft ang best thing to do is compressor replacement. Ito ang opinion ko.

ah ok sige po sasabihin ko sa kanya para masuggest kung pwede pa gamitin