Brand New or Surplus Radiator

**EVO-V** · July 21st, 2012 12:23 PM

You shouldn't be too bothered about using tap water, our Metro Manila "mineral water" isn't as hard as one thinks it is.

Just have a healthy amount of coolant, say a 30% mix into your loop and you should be fine. Filtered should be as troublesome as it should get for you.

It's normally for high performance/high reliability applications that you want to be more finicky about your water. Like say you're operating a fleet of trucks or buses and you're bent on making sure cavitation doesn't occur.

But really don't let the marketing get ahead of practical usage. Distilled water is funny concept people think makes their vehicles operate better.

**crazy_boy** · July 21st, 2012 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by EVO-V

You shouldn't be too bothered about using tap water, our Metro Manila "mineral water" isn't as hard as one thinks it is.

Just have a healthy amount of coolant, say a 30% mix into your loop and you should be fine. Filtered should be as troublesome as it should get for you.

It's normally for high performance/high reliability applications that you want to be more finicky about your water. Like say you're operating a fleet of trucks or buses and you're bent on making sure cavitation doesn't occur.

But really don't let the marketing get ahead of practical usage. Distilled water is funny concept people think makes their vehicles operate better.

Ok sir. How about coolant with water softner?

**EVO-V** · July 21st, 2012 12:57 PM

What's your objective with water softener?

**falken** · July 21st, 2012 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by EVO-V

You shouldn't be too bothered about using tap water, our Metro Manila "mineral water" isn't as hard as one thinks it is.

Just have a healthy amount of coolant, say a 30% mix into your loop and you should be fine. Filtered should be as troublesome as it should get for you.

It's normally for high performance/high reliability applications that you want to be more finicky about your water. Like say you're operating a fleet of trucks or buses and you're bent on making sure cavitation doesn't occur.

But really don't let the marketing get ahead of practical usage. Distilled water is funny concept people think makes their vehicles operate better.

True, Manila tap water isn't hard. But if you live in an older condominium or apartment building, the problem is rust in the water tanks. We have our own water filtration system at home and the ceramic filters get clogged after every 2 weeks. And the muck that I have to clean off the filters is mostly rust.

**EVO-V** · July 22nd, 2012 11:56 AM

The practical solution it seems is to try not filling up your radiator using condo water and having a good talk with your HOA president.

Thing is, if you need to fill up your radiator with water regularly, it only means that you have a leak that you need to plug.

Folks, your car cooling systems were initially designed to not be purged for at least 100,000 km. Once its refilled it should stay at the same level given it is a closed loop.

I've seen radiators come in for failure analysis from buses and trucks that have been filled with muddy water out of sheer desperation and left that way because of negligence and lack of information.

If it is an emergency, filter the water with a cloth or rag but tell the mechanic FLUSH your system after he plugs the leak.

**crazy_boy** · July 22nd, 2012 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by EVO-V

What's your objective with water softener?

I was just basing it on your previous post. Use of coolant with water softner thats why i got curious

**EVO-V** · July 22nd, 2012 09:58 PM

No effect. And unless its a real hard water situation you're facing you can't really get any more performance. And depending on the type of water softener you may invite more problems. Water in its purest form is the best conductor. Adding glycol based coolants actually raise the boiling point of water but do not make it any more conductive, instead actually increase its thermal resistance.

Water wetter would actually do you more good, given it breaks the surface tension of water and makes it more easier to spread itself on hot surfaces.

**thugs232** · September 19th, 2012 12:28 PM

I would go for Brand new.. before nagtiyaga ako sa surplus it only took 2-3 months then ayun bumigay na agad. Try niyo Evercool, 3 years ko na siya gamit on my Civic.. Wala ko kaproblem-problem. I bought one in Banawe. Pero i think available siya to majority of auto supplies nationwide.

**thugs232** · September 19th, 2012 12:39 PM

I think basta Evercool ok naman yung quality. Mine's brass and copper na Evercool and i'm using it for 3 years na..ok padin wala ko naging kahit konting problem. I heard na ok din Plastic Alum nila. Mas makakamura ka siguro kapag sa mismong planta or manufacturer ka. Punta ka website nila. Search for Evercool's website.. Roberts Automotive ata ang manufacturer, they also have retail or walk in..then may mag-aasist pa sayo na technical support. Pero kung nalalayuan ka, try mo nalang kay Levin.

**crazy_boy** · September 19th, 2012 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by thugs232

I would go for Brand new.. before nagtiyaga ako sa surplus it only took 2-3 months then ayun bumigay na agad. Try niyo Evercool, 3 years ko na siya gamit on my Civic.. Wala ko kaproblem-problem. I bought one in Banawe. Pero i think available siya to majority of auto supplies nationwide.

Originally Posted by thugs232

I think basta Evercool ok naman yung quality. Mine's brass and copper na Evercool and i'm using it for 3 years na..ok padin wala ko naging kahit konting problem. I heard na ok din Plastic Alum nila. Mas makakamura ka siguro kapag sa mismong planta or manufacturer ka. Punta ka website nila. Search for Evercool's website.. Roberts Automotive ata ang manufacturer, they also have retail or walk in..then may mag-aasist pa sayo na technical support. Pero kung nalalayuan ka, try mo nalang kay Levin.

talaga? sa 3 post na ginawa mo sa 2 threads, puro evercool nalang. first post mo evercool na agad. hmm