ac turns weird problem

[eiganram]

mga gurus.. im newbee d2 a forum na ito and very happy that i learned a lot from experts and people who share their knowledge regarding car maintenance and trouble shooting..my ride is 99 el lancer and im having trouble with my aircon.minsan pag nag drive ako going to work nawawala yung lamig. dinala ko na sa aircon shop and they clean and charge the freon..pero ganun pa rin nawawala yung lamig but bumabalik ulit pag nag direretso ulit yung andar..binalik ko sa shop sabi nila me mulawag na wiring sa me wiring they put some contact cleaner on it but still same problem..any comment from you guys.. in my assestment di kaya dahil sa mahina yung charge ng alternator?? i have digital voltage reading..when reading comes to 13.81V dun naglokoko yung a/c.kailangan bng i overhaul ko yung alternator?? i think my battery is ok because off engine voltage reading is 12.35V ..or thermostat?? how much po kung papalitan ng thermostat??looking forward for comments. thanks in advance!! more power to tsikot

[ghosthunter]

Solution: change A/C shop.

Your problem might be a slow leak somewhere in your A/C system. The shop will have to take apart your A/C system and do a leak test on every part.

[aga_cruz]

try mo muna palitan ng manua thermostat mura lang naman ito cost 350petot lang,, baka nag mamalfunction na ang thermostat mo kaya minsan me lamig minsan blower lang,, try mo obserbahan pag namatay ang thermostat i mean compresor ilang minutes bago sya bumuhay ulit? or baka kailangan mo pa tapakan ang gas pedal para bumukas ulit ang compresor

[sboogie]

check mo rin yung magnetic coil ba yun ng compressor

yan kasi naging problem ko dati nung nagloko rin a/c ng corolla namin dati

[bambino]

kailangan jan diagnose muna ng AC shop para sure . mahirap ang baka sakali . tama si GH palit ng AC shop

[dealermate]

[quote=eiganram;1262052]mga gurus.. im newbee d2 a forum na ito and very happy that i learned a lot from experts and people who share their knowledge regarding car maintenance and trouble shooting..my ride is 99 el lancer and im having trouble with my aircon.minsan pag nag drive ako going to work nawawala yung lamig. dinala ko na sa aircon shop and they clean and charge the freon..pero ganun pa rin nawawala yung lamig but bumabalik ulit pag nag direretso ulit yung andar..binalik ko sa shop sabi nila me mulawag na wiring sa me wiring they put some contact cleaner on it but still same problem..any comment from you guys.. in my assestment di kaya dahil sa mahina yung charge ng alternator?? i have digital voltage reading..when reading comes to 13.81V dun naglokoko yung a/c.kailangan bng i overhaul ko yung alternator?? i think my battery is ok because off engine voltage reading is 12.35V ..or thermostat?? how much po kung papalitan ng thermostat??looking forward for comments. thanks in advance!! more power to tsikot[/quote

maaring di masyado na vacuum ang system nung linisin ito,kaya may natirang hangin na sumasabay sa freon, na pag nagcondense ang freon magco-condense din ang air sa loob ng system at pag dating sa expansion valve pag nag evaporate ang freon para lumamig di na nagagawang mag evaporate ng air na naging moisture magyeyelo na sya dun nagiging dahilang ng pag bara sa expansion valve.ito ang dahilan kung bakit nawawala ang lamig at kapag natunaw na naman yung moisture na naging ice sa loob ng exp.valve magsisimula na uli sya lumamig so on and so port

papalitan mo filter drier mo at expansion valve at pa vacuum mo ang system ng matagal para masiguro na moisture free ang system mo

[jick.cejoco]

Solution: change A/C shop.

Your problem might be a slow leak somewhere in your A/C system. The shop will have to take apart your A/C system and do a leak test on every part.

ghosthunter,
as far as i know, leak tests are done with all components are installed in the system, this way you know if it was the joint fitting o-rings are causing the leak or the joint is not properly torqued to specs.
jick

[bambino]

ghosthunter,
as far as i know, leak tests are done with all components are installed in the system, this way you know if it was the joint fitting o-rings are causing the leak or the joint is not properly torqued to specs.
jick

i totally agree with you jick .

i never done a leak test to the customers with this procedure .

technicians back home although highly skilled , were ill-equipped ,resorting to the conventional way yet not proper.

[jick.cejoco]

i totally agree with you jick .

i never done a leak test to the customers with this procedure .

technicians back home although highly skilled , were ill-equipped ,resorting to the conventional way yet not proper.

thanks to my instructors back then, sumio tomioka-san and kazuo usui-san and the nippon denso training center in nagoya

[kulotz]

mga gurus.. im newbee d2 a forum na ito and very happy that i learned a lot from experts and people who share their knowledge regarding car maintenance and trouble shooting..my ride is 99 el lancer and im having trouble with my aircon.minsan pag nag drive ako going to work nawawala yung lamig. dinala ko na sa aircon shop and they clean and charge the freon..pero ganun pa rin nawawala yung lamig but bumabalik ulit pag nag direretso ulit yung andar..binalik ko sa shop sabi nila me mulawag na wiring sa me wiring they put some contact cleaner on it but still same problem..any comment from you guys.. in my assestment di kaya dahil sa mahina yung charge ng alternator?? i have digital voltage reading..when reading comes to 13.81V dun naglokoko yung a/c.kailangan bng i overhaul ko yung alternator?? i think my battery is ok because off engine voltage reading is 12.35V ..or thermostat?? how much po kung papalitan ng thermostat??looking forward for comments. thanks in advance!! more power to tsikot

pag diretso lumalamig ulit? hindi kaya nasira fan nung a/c? ganyan po kasi nangyari sa sentra ko pag tumatakbo nahahanginan kaya lumalamig tapos pag tumigil wala na ulit hangin iinit na ulit.

pero kung ako lang padala nalang talaga sa a/c shop

[dealermate]

i totally agree with you jick .

i never done a leak test to the customers with this procedure .

technicians back home although highly skilled , were ill-equipped ,resorting to the conventional way yet not proper.

pero dapat po kasama sa procedure yan lalo na pag baba o linis evaporator dapat bago ibalik leak test muna tapos pag tapos na lahat ng reapir leaktest uli boong system para quality job

[bambino]

i can do a complete a/c systems leak test in just only 10 minutes or less,
without touching any of the components.

you just have to have the proper equipment to do it.

a combination of electronic leak detector, a small amount of refrigerant and nitrogen , and soap to verify a leak if there is any is the best ever in north america .if not enough , you can also use dye with the refrigerant oil for future checking.

to properly perform an evap cleaning ,

run a leak test using an electronic leak detector ( mine is YOKOGAWA FROM JAPAN -the best i ever had so far ) if no leaks found ,
recover the refrigerant. back home they usually release it .

then perform the task ,you don't have to submerge the evap into the water.

but as i mentioned pinoy techs back home are highly skilled just they are not well equipped , that's why they are resorting to this type .

[katzko]

i can do a complete a/c systems leak test in just only 10 minutes or less,
without touching any of the components.

you just have to have the proper equipment to do it.

a combination of electronic leak detector, a small amount of refrigerant and nitrogen , and soap to verify a leak if there is any is the best ever in north america .if not enough , you can also use dye with the refrigerant oil for future checking.

to properly perform an evap cleaning ,

run a leak test using an electronic leak detector ( mine is YOKOGAWA FROM JAPAN -the best i ever had so far ) if no leaks found ,
recover the refrigerant. back home they usually release it .

then perform the task ,you don't have to submerge the evap into the water.

but as i mentioned pinoy techs back home are highly skilled just they are not well equipped , that's why they are resorting to this type .

Yan ang galing ng mga PINOYS! Di na nila kailangan ang mga kaekekan na sinasabi mo. Magaling dumiskarte! Maybe the reason we can survive a financial crisis.

[den1106]

Yan ang galing ng mga PINOYS! Di na nila kailangan ang mga kaekekan na sinasabi mo. Magaling dumiskarte! Maybe the reason we can survive a financial crisis.

You don't have to make comment like this kung wala kang alam sa A/C Servicing.

[katzko]

You don't have to make comment like this kung wala kang alam sa A/C Servicing.

maybe wala akong alam sa a/c, but i could distinguish between humble and hambog comments. mukha kasing lahat ng nagcocomment dito mga technician ng aircon na nag gagaling galingan. san ba kasi mga shop nyo? o baka babagsak lang din kayo kina mang mario o ceejay na nagbibigay ng discounts in every good comments na binibigay nyo?

[bambino]

maybe wala akong alam sa a/c, but i could distinguish between humble and hambog comments. mukha kasing lahat ng nagcocomment dito mga technician ng aircon na nag gagaling galingan. san ba kasi mga shop nyo? o baka babagsak lang din kayo kina mang mario o ceejay na nagbibigay ng discounts in every good comments na binibigay nyo?

FYI, i own and operate a specialized service center . A 10 BAY 6 HOIST
specialized in AC,EFI DIAGNOSTICS,ALTERNATOR /STARTER REBUILDING , AUTO ELECTRICAL , AND IM A CANADIAN BASED SERVICE PROVIDER.

THAT'S WHY ALL OF MY COMMENTS ARE BASED OF WHAT I KNOW ,AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE MY KNOWLEDGE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT OF THIS TRADE.

CONSTANTLY TRAINING , NOW IM THE MOST SOUGHT AFTER WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THE SPECIALIZED AREAS I MENTIONED .

HAVE CLIENTS FROM GARAGES TO CASAS.

ANYMORE QUESTIONS ?

[katzko]

FYI, i own and operate a specialized service center . A 10 BAY 6 HOIST
specialized in AC,EFI DIAGNOSTICS,ALTERNATOR /STARTER REBUILDING , AUTO ELECTRICAL , AND IM A CANADIAN BASED SERVICE PROVIDER.

THAT'S WHY ALL OF MY COMMENTS ARE BASED OF WHAT I KNOW ,AND I JUST WANT TO SHARE MY KNOWLEDGE TO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT OF THIS TRADE.

CONSTANTLY TRAINING , NOW IM THE MOST SOUGHT AFTER WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THE SPECIALIZED AREAS I MENTIONED .

HAVE CLIENTS FROM GARAGES TO CASAS.

ANYMORE QUESTIONS ?

wow, nakaka-impress naman. pero mas bilib pa rin ako sa mga pinoy dito. imagine, with very limited diagnostic tools, they can still manage to do the job. saka iba ang situations na naeexperience ng mga technicians/shops considering the climate here. at syempre, consider also the cost of providing these so called special diagnostic tools( i forgot the brand) that you would pass on to customers. baka naman check up pa lang eh mamulubi na ang magpapagawa sa yo. tanong lang bro, bakit dun ka nagbukas ng shop sa canada? san ba dun? baka pwede malaman full details. I have brothers and sister living there in alberta. may website ka ba? I'm sure meron......

[bambino]

sa alberta , masyadong malamig dun.winter time - 40 C

im a canadian citizen here and regarding sa mga equipment ,i have to have all these to accurately pinpoint troubles . without proper tools these days are not acceptable especially when dealing with electronics.

here ,me to diagnose i charge 120 in US DOLLARS .MY PER HOUR IS 70 US DOLLAR. THESE ARE ALL NORTH AMERICAN STANDARDS.

DEALERSHIPS (CASA) CHARGE OVER 100 IN US FUNDS/HR.

[katzko]

sa alberta , masyadong malamig dun.winter time - 40 C

im a canadian citizen here and regarding sa mga equipment ,i have to have all these to accurately pinpoint troubles . without proper tools these days are not acceptable especially when dealing with electronics.

here ,me to diagnose i charge 120 in US DOLLARS .MY PER HOUR IS 70 US DOLLAR. THESE ARE ALL NORTH AMERICAN STANDARDS.

DEALERSHIPS (CASA) CHARGE OVER 100 IN US FUNDS/HR.

well, that's my point. if you're interested in putting up an auto service center back here in the philippines, you have to go down to our levels. mas maraming mahihirap dito. kahit mayayaman nagtitipid na rin. sabi nga nila, 1.2k lang ang cleaning ng aircon dito. that's roughly below 30 dollars. btw, di mo nasagot mga questions ko sa yo. nakalimutan mo?

[bambino]

wow, nakaka-impress naman. pero mas bilib pa rin ako sa mga pinoy dito. imagine, with very limited diagnostic tools, they can still manage to do the job. saka iba ang situations na naeexperience ng mga technicians/shops considering the climate here. at syempre, consider also the cost of providing these so called special diagnostic tools( i forgot the brand) that you would pass on to customers. baka naman check up pa lang eh mamulubi na ang magpapagawa sa yo. tanong lang bro, bakit dun ka nagbukas ng shop sa canada? san ba dun? baka pwede malaman full details. I have brothers and sister living there in alberta. may website ka ba? I'm sure meron......

bakit may balak ka ba na magtrabaho dito?pwede ka nang mag apply independent.5years ang waiting time .

sa mga questions mo hindi ko pwedeng ibigay ang info ko sa ibang tao

pasensya na .good luck na lang sa mga utol mo sa alberta .

by the way .dito ako sa toronto area .


yung mga equipment ko nasa pinas na ako na lang ang hinihintay.


meron na rin akong na hire na mga tech,tool keeper personal driver and bodyguard,secretary,and service advisor .

meron na rin nakakuha ako ng bahay sa las pinas . target ko sa alabang or las pinas area .

services ko AC ,ELECTRCAL,ALTERNATOR AND STARTER REPAIR AND REBUILDING ,MOTOR REWINDING ,GENERAL REPAIRS, EFI DIAGNOSTICS



I GET ALONG WITH MY FELLOW TECHS AND I EVEN TRAIN THEM TO UPGRADE THEIR SKILLS . hopefully i can do the same there.


pagdating sa charging rate , iknow the drill, that's why i always keep up with the forum to learn ang get as much info needed. at the same time to share a little bit of what i know.










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AT SANAY TAYO SA HIRAP.

DITO SA CANADA , ALTHOUGH IT'S THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE WITH yet WE CANNOT AFFORD TO HIRE A HELPER . and you can verify that to yoursisters in alberta.


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