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    ₱1.6 million isang modern jeepney? Gago ba sila?

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    Have used Grab for a few times and my ride were more convenient. I wish the problems would be resolved soonest.

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    On the one hand, trabaho talaga ng LTFRB ang "franchising and regulation", so if Uber and Grab break the rules, then they get what they deserve.

    On the other hand, the LTFRB is so broken that what they are doing to Uber and Grab smacks of favoritism, suppression, and ineptitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by makinao View Post
    On the one hand, trabaho talaga ng LTFRB ang "franchising and regulation", so if Uber and Grab break the rules, then they get what they deserve.

    On the other hand, the LTFRB is so broken that what they are doing to Uber and Grab smacks of favoritism, suppression, and ineptitude.
    Or they can make it a level playing field. Put grab and uber in same restrictions as taxi. Meaning standard ang singil at walang dagdag or surcharges. Bawal sa taxi ang dagdag eh so dapat bawal din sa TNVS. Same with choosing destinations. Bawal sa taxi ang mamili ng destinations. Dapat bawal din sa kanila. Ang lalabas lang sa app eh pickup point.

    Or lift these 2 rules all together from taxi and TNVS. Pwede magdagdag ng singil pag rush hour. Pede rin mamili ng pasahero depende sa destinasyon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Or they can make it a level playing field. Put grab and uber in same restrictions as taxi. Meaning standard ang singil at walang dagdag or surcharges. Bawal sa taxi ang dagdag eh so dapat bawal din sa TNVS. Same with choosing destinations. Bawal sa taxi ang mamili ng destinations. Dapat bawal din sa kanila. Ang lalabas lang sa app eh pickup point.

    Or lift these 2 rules all together from taxi and TNVS. Pwede magdagdag ng singil pag rush hour. Pede rin mamili ng pasahero depende sa destinasyon.

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    baka maubos ang mga uber at grab if the playing field is leveled. pero sana maging wake up call din sa mga taxi ang tnvs. kung maayos at walang kalokohan mga taxi the tnvs will not be so popular. kaso problema sa mga taxi driver utak talangka din. iniisip lang nila kalaban ang uber at grab pero hinde nila iniisip why uber and grab are more preferred than them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Or they can make it a level playing field. Put grab and uber in same restrictions as taxi. Meaning standard ang singil at walang dagdag or surcharges. Bawal sa taxi ang dagdag eh so dapat bawal din sa TNVS. Same with choosing destinations. Bawal sa taxi ang mamili ng destinations. Dapat bawal din sa kanila. Ang lalabas lang sa app eh pickup point.

    Or lift these 2 rules all together from taxi and TNVS. Pwede magdagdag ng singil pag rush hour. Pede rin mamili ng pasahero depende sa destinasyon.

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    Or why not make all of them like taxis nga, pero pwede mag book thru app at bawal tumanggi. App based na lahat

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    Penalty kasi ng 20% sa fare kung mag-cancel yung driver, deductable sa next customer na ma-accept...







    Last edited by Monseratto; April 17th, 2018 at 09:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Penalty kasi ng 20% sa fare kung mag-cancel yung driver, deductable sa next customer na ma-accept...
    May penalty ba if customer ang magcancel?

    2 weeks ago, pinagkuha ko ng grab anak ko. After a few minutes, nakita ko papalayo yung kotse so tinawagan ko. Ang reason ng driver is sobra daw traffic, mahirapan daw sya magsundo. So nag cancel nalang ako, and reason nilagay ko is "driver requested to cancel".
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    i'm gonna take the unpopular side of the argument

    i'm not a fan of Travis Kalanick (Uber's founder)

    the guy's an Ayn Rand acolyte

    (if you don't know who Ayn Rand is and her philosophy, read about it then you'll understand Uber's damn-the-rules business model)

    Uber goes into cities and countries and knowingly and willingly breaks rules

    That intentional rule-breaking explains how uber grew so fast

    They bypassed governments around the world

    Then deal with govt regulators AFTER they're established

    Para sa uber, ang gobyerno ay hadlang, ang gobyerno ay kalaban

    Perfectly reflects Ayn Rand's rightwing anti-govt libertarian ideology

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    That intentional rule-breaking explains how uber grew so fast

    They bypassed governments around the world

    Then deal with govt regulators AFTER they're established
    Pano naman si Grab?

    Ayn Rand Acolyte din ba founder ng Grab?

    Lumalabag din kasi sila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonleon View Post
    Pano naman si Grab?

    Ayn Rand Acolyte din ba founder ng Grab?

    Lumalabag din kasi sila.
    i didnt bother to research who founded Grab and what his/her philiosophy is

    obviously Grab copied Uber's business model

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i'm gonna take the unpopular side of the argument

    i'm not a fan of Travis Kalanick (Uber's founder)

    the guy's an Ayn Rand acolyte

    (if you don't know who Ayn Rand is and her philosophy, read about it then you'll understand Uber's damn-the-rules business model)

    Uber goes into cities and countries and knowingly and willingly breaks rules

    That intentional rule-breaking explains how uber grew so fast

    They bypassed governments around the world

    Then deal with govt regulators AFTER they're established

    Para sa uber, ang gobyerno ay hadlang, ang gobyerno ay kalaban

    Perfectly reflects Ayn Rand's rightwing anti-govt libertarian ideology
    I've read partially about Ayn Rand, "My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement ..."

    What if someone has this extreme definition of pursuing happiness by simply killing someone who doesn't agree with his opinion? On a lighter side, it is possible to pursue happiness by your own definition and hurt people around you. Of course, you can never please everyone. However, I find it selfish for anyone to have his happiness as the moral purpose of his life.

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    mabigat pangangailangan ni deakin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    I've read partially about Ayn Rand, "My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement ..."

    What if someone has this extreme definition of pursuing happiness by simply killing someone who doesn't agree with his opinion? On a lighter side, it is possible to pursue happiness by your own definition and hurt people around you. Of course, you can never please everyone. However, I find it selfish for anyone to have his happiness as the moral purpose of his life.
    the essence of Rand's philosophy is selfishness

    Selfish pursuit of one's goals

    Let nobody stand in the way

    Lahat ng hadlang ay kalaban

    Ang gobyerno ay kalaban

    Kalanick lived that philosophy and it showed in the way Uber went into cities across the globe

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    The main argument based on LTFRB ay dapat ma regulate ang uber/grab due to SAFETY of the passengers. Kaya andaming nag rarant sa mga social media sites dahil pinapalabas ng LTFRB na mas SAFE ang taxis, bus, fx, jeepneys dahil regulated sila. Isa pa sa sinasabi ng spokesperson ng LTFRB na dapat may Financial capacity ang operator ng Uber/Grab incase may accident na mangyari para may pambayad sila. Mukang hindi nag reresearch ang mga ugok na taga LTFRB. May insurance ang uber/grab Incase ma aksidente ang pasahero nito.

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    since nauuso na naman ang self-driving cars, why not mag-drive yun car sa pickup point tapos ikaw na lang mag-drive sa destination mo then mag-drive yun car sa next pickup point ng next passenger

    para wala nang problema sa driver

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    Quote Originally Posted by radz15 View Post
    The main argument based on LTFRB ay dapat ma regulate ang uber/grab due to SAFETY of the passengers. Kaya andaming nag rarant sa mga social media sites dahil pinapalabas ng LTFRB na mas SAFE ang taxis, bus, fx, jeepneys dahil regulated sila. Isa pa sa sinasabi ng spokesperson ng LTFRB na dapat may Financial capacity ang operator ng Uber/Grab incase may accident na mangyari para may pambayad sila. Mukang hindi nag reresearch ang mga ugok na taga LTFRB. May insurance ang uber/grab Incase ma aksidente ang pasahero nito.

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    mahina kasi sa reasoning ang LTFRB

    sana sinabi nila nang derecho -- kung ang sasakyan mo gagamitin mo pang transport ng tao kapalit ang pera, dapat may permit ka galing sa gobyerno

    safety safety whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by radz15 View Post
    The main argument based on LTFRB ay dapat ma regulate ang uber/grab due to SAFETY of the passengers. Kaya andaming nag rarant sa mga social media sites dahil pinapalabas ng LTFRB na mas SAFE ang taxis, bus, fx, jeepneys dahil regulated sila. Isa pa sa sinasabi ng spokesperson ng LTFRB na dapat may Financial capacity ang operator ng Uber/Grab incase may accident na mangyari para may pambayad sila. Mukang hindi nag reresearch ang mga ugok na taga LTFRB. May insurance ang uber/grab Incase ma aksidente ang pasahero nito.

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    Lahat ng pasahero in all units of Uber and Grab are covered by insurance? Remind me, ano nga reason bakit ayaw tumanggap ng bagong franchise ang LTFRB.

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