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    Napansin ko lang na dumadami na yung balita about sa mga nahuhulihan ng bala ng baril sa NAIA. I don't get it why would someone bring a bullet in the airport and have it pass the xray machine. Pansin ko din na paisa-isa lang na bala ang dala. Honestly, parang wala ng common sense yung mga pulis na nag-iimbestiga. Raket ba nila ito?

    Would you know ways on how we can stay safe against this? Dapat siguro yung maleta walang bulsa. Pati yung handcarry dapat walang bulsa na hindi nazizipper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    Napansin ko lang na dumadami na yung balita about sa mga nahuhulihan ng bala ng baril sa NAIA. I don't get it why would someone bring a bullet in the airport and have it pass the xray machine. Pansin ko din na paisa-isa lang na bala ang dala. Honestly, parang wala ng common sense yung mga pulis na nag-iimbestiga. Raket ba nila ito?

    Would you know ways on how we can stay safe against this? Dapat siguro yung maleta walang bulsa. Pati yung handcarry dapat walang bulsa na hindi nazizipper.


    Most security personnel blindly follow protocol. In their minds(at least dun sa matitino) baka masabit pa sila if they don't follow protocol. But imho, planted or not, if i were airport security, i'd investigate it anyways.


    One time we arrived at the airport, waiting for our ride. Some security guards noticed a plastic bag on the floor a few feet from us. When we said it wasn't ours, sabi ba naman sa amin "sir, pwede bang akuin nyo na lang yung plastic bag?" Mga tarantado, mangdadamay pa ng pasahero. The lazy sh_ts probably didn't want to go through the hassle of filing a report, etc etc...or worse, baka another racket yun. These are the people in charge of airport security, ladies and gentlement

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    tingin ko para makaiwasa dyan is....
    kapag sinabihan ka na may kahinahinala sa bag mo, wag mo silang papayagan na mahawakan nila ang bag mo. irequest mo na ituro na lang sayo kung saan parte ng bag nakita yung bullet tapos ikaw mismo ang kukuha at maghahalungkat sa bag mo.
    or ipaklita sayo sa xray kung ano yung nakita nila tapos saka mo lang buksan yung bag mo.
    or siguro karapatan mo rin naman na irequest sa kanila na makita ang mga kamay nila na malinis at walang ibang hawak or nakatago sa kamay bago nila mahawakan ang bag mo.

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    tingin ko para makaiwasa dyan is....
    kapag sinabihan ka na may kahinahinala sa bag mo, wag mo silang papayagan na mahawakan nila ang bag mo. irequest mo na ituro na lang sayo kung saan parte ng bag nakita yung bullet tapos ikaw mismo ang kukuha at maghahalungkat sa bag mo.
    or ipaklita sayo sa xray kung ano yung nakita nila tapos saka mo lang buksan yung bag mo.
    or siguro karapatan mo rin naman na irequest sa kanila na makita ang mga kamay nila na malinis at walang ibang hawak or nakatago sa kamay bago nila mahawakan ang bag mo.
    shell casing is metal, so whoever put it inside your bag, unless he wore gloves, would leave his print in there. thus, do not touch it. let the police from the avsegroup (aviation security group) or pcas (philippine center of aviation security) take care of it, and take a video using your smart phone during the whole process.

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    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Last edited by Monseratto; October 28th, 2015 at 08:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    shell casing is metal, so whoever put it inside your bag, unless he wore gloves, would leave his print in there. thus, do not touch it. let the police from the avsegroup (aviation security group) or pcas (philippine center of aviation security) take care of it, and take a video using your smart phone during the whole process.
    OTS or Office of Transportation Security is in charge of security inside the terminals. It is under DOTC secretary Jun Abaya...

    The OTS, which is under the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC), is the single authority responsible for the security of the transportation systems of the country, including civil aviation.

    Screening inspectors in charge of security screening checkpoints inside Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) terminals are directly accountable to the OTS rather than the Manila International Airport Authority..
    Last edited by Monseratto; October 28th, 2015 at 08:49 PM.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if they "outsourced" the planting of the bullet to a professional pickpocket.

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    Meron talagang nahuhulihan nyan noon and siguro nakuha sa pakiusapan ayun hinanap hanap na ng mga makakapal ang mukha.

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    kung modus yan ng security personnel, im sure they are aware of the finger print, malamang wipe out na yun, and/or they will use tissue to hold the bullet.

    speaking of recording, people might also want to start voice recording pag nakatunog ka na na nagumpisa na ang modus para di halata, and just put it sa bulsa ng polo. kasi darating ang point na may lalapit na sa yo personnel ask you for bribe.

    although yung latest, si aling gloria wala yatang nagtuloy ng modus dahil nagkamali sila ng tantya, wala silang mahihita kay aling gloria. good news kay aling gloria eh pansamantala syang pinalaya dahil di magkapareho yung bala sa picture at yung sinubmit nila, mukhang may switching na nangyari para di ma trace.

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    Ang napapansin ko lang base sa news report, yung OTS ang bagal mag release ng CCTV recording at hindi naglalabas ng X-Ray readings. Ang ebidensya lang yung mismong bala. So parang he says, she says ang labanan, di ba?

    Isa pa, anung motibo nung mga pasahero para magdala ng bala?

    Anting anting? Si Aling Gloria bakit nakalusot sa probinsya tapos sa NAIA hinde?

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    MO yan.

    Pag ako nakitaan ng isang bala sa baggage at sinita ako eh tatawanan ko lang sila sabay sabi. "Na misplace nyo ang bala nyo sa bagahe ko o."

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    tingin ko para makaiwasa dyan is....
    kapag sinabihan ka na may kahinahinala sa bag mo, wag mo silang papayagan na mahawakan nila ang bag mo. irequest mo na ituro na lang sayo kung saan parte ng bag nakita yung bullet tapos ikaw mismo ang kukuha at maghahalungkat sa bag mo.
    or ipaklita sayo sa xray kung ano yung nakita nila tapos saka mo lang buksan yung bag mo.
    or siguro karapatan mo rin naman na irequest sa kanila na makita ang mga kamay nila na malinis at walang ibang hawak or nakatago sa kamay bago nila mahawakan ang bag mo.

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    ^bakit nasabi mo na wala ng common sense yung mga pulis na nagimbestiga?
    - keep an eye on your luggage all the time and never leave it unattended (common sense).
    - be aware of your surroundings (makiramdamdam), especially in terminals, in places where many people converge.
    - if you engage the services of porters, check their IDs.
    - report immediately to the authorities any suspicious looking individuals or those who are acting suspiciously.
    -don't enage in small talk while you're busy checking in. don't get distracted. focus.

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    In short, look alert and act smart. They will just shift their focus to easier prey.

    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    ^bakit nasabi mo na wala ng common sense yung mga pulis na nagimbestiga?
    - keep an eye on your luggage all the time and never leave it unattended (common sense).
    - be aware of your surroundings (makiramdamdam), especially in terminals, in places where many people converge.
    - if you engage the services of porters, check their IDs.
    - report immediately to the authorities any suspicious looking individuals or those who are acting suspiciously.
    -don't enage in small talk while you're busy checking in. don't get distracted. focus.

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    In short, look alert and act smart. They will just shift their focus to easier prey.

    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    ^bakit nasabi mo na wala ng common sense yung mga pulis na nagimbestiga?
    - keep an eye on your luggage all the time and never leave it unattended (common sense).
    - be aware of your surroundings (makiramdamdam), especially in terminals, in places where many people converge.
    - if you engage the services of porters, check their IDs.
    - report immediately to the authorities any suspicious looking individuals or those who are acting suspiciously.
    -don't enage in small talk while you're busy checking in. don't get distracted. focus.

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    For me, this is a modus operandi ng mga airport security personnel. Out of the blues, bigla na lang tumaas ang incident ng mga bala sa luggage eh ilan taon ng x-ray bago pumasok sa airport. This cannot be done by the mere ground personnel, for sure the idea came from someone in the higher echelon ng airport. Why it came to repeat ? It's simply because those involve and investigated on the instance that went viral sa social media, came to a close na walang na penalize dun sa mga airport personnel. Walang natangal despite na sinabing ng victim na nagbigay cya ng P500, meaning tuloy ang ligaya and so this will repeat and repeat and passengers will be the helpless victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    ^bakit nasabi mo na wala ng common sense yung mga pulis na nagimbestiga?
    - keep an eye on your luggage all the time and never leave it unattended (common sense).
    - be aware of your surroundings (makiramdamdam), especially in terminals, in places where many people converge.
    - if you engage the services of porters, check their IDs.
    - report immediately to the authorities any suspicious looking individuals or those who are acting suspiciously.
    -don't enage in small talk while you're busy checking in. don't get distracted. focus.
    Just to put everything into context, here is the video https://youtu.be/QU5S7NxFvrE

    Police chief acts as if he has caught a high profile criminal or this is another badly edited video from abs. LOL

    I am just curious why there has been several reported incidents of this tanim bala. Also, these "criminals" would only have one or two pieces of bullet with them.

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    Bakit yung kasama ko dati papuntang Davao, hindi napansin yung dala nyang swiss knife. Hand Carry pa sya.

    Nung pabalik kami sa manila dun nakita sa Davao airport... pinaiwan na lang sa kanya or check in nya yung bag nya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLAVEL3699 View Post
    Bakit yung kasama ko dati papuntang Davao, hindi napansin yung dala nyang swiss knife. Hand Carry pa sya.

    Nung pabalik kami sa manila dun nakita sa Davao airport... pinaiwan na lang sa kanya or check in nya yung bag nya.

    its because of "human error/operator error" machines are only good as with the people who operate them...

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