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    #1
    Straight Conventional Automatic?

    Gate Type?

    Manumactic?

    Performance and Cost.

    Ive tried all three (manumatic just a few kilometers lang)


    I think Gate type are the best hehehehe

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    It's difficult to compare, as not all gearboxes are created equal. I've driven straight-gates that were terrible, I've driven straight-gates that were good. I've driven manumatics that were sluggish and manumatics that were awesomely responsive (new Civic).

    I prefer the Gate-Type over the straight type, but nothing beats the Manumatic for ease of use.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    para sakin gate type kasi kahit d ka tumingin sa gauge mo or sa kambio alam mo kung nasaang gear siya...

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    Gated tiptronic. The straight version seems prone to mis-shift such as shifting accidentally to R or P while running (that'll probably destroy your gearbox).

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    i've driven a starex A/T before. ito ba yung straight?

    please pardon my ignorance, pero paano ba malaman kung straight, gated, manumatic, etc? thanks.

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    Straight, yung derecho po, ito yung may pinipindot sa head nung kambyo to release when shifting.

    ito yung gated tiptronic:


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    What about those with CVT or paddle shifters?

    Gated pa rin ako!

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    Traumatic hindi sanay sa AT hehehe

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    Straight is just fine for me, basta floor shift.

    What I least enjoyed were column shift matics.

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    the best stick is the World Rally Semi-Automatic stick.

    the drivers love it, it's faster, easy to drive, it's actually overall, probably more reliable than a manual gearbox, since we been using the semi-automatic gearbox, we never once to have to change the gearbox because of damage. where in the manual gearbox, we often used to have to change gearbox because it often started jumping off wrong gear or another where the driver miss-timed the gear change.

    -David Lapworth
    former Subaru WRC Boss
    me want a stick that moves by it's own.

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    DSG by VW/Audi is currently the best transmission due to zero loss of power during shifting.

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    i'm intrigued by the magnesium paddle shifters of the upcoming mitsubishi outlander and lancer.

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    6 speed CVT (INVECS III)-Gated tiptronic with magnesium paddles!
    Last edited by the josh; May 1st, 2007 at 01:07 PM.

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    #14
    Gate type



    Straight


    Closet


    Gay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    DSG by VW/Audi is currently the best transmission due to zero loss of power during shifting.
    +1 on this.

    Zero HP loss! 8ms shifting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Gated tiptronic. The straight version seems prone to mis-shift such as shifting accidentally to R or P while running (that'll probably destroy your gearbox).
    Di ba mas prone ang gate type sa mis-shifts since you won't have to press any button to move the shifter?

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    ^ but it wont change gears unless you let it pass through the gated part of the shifter.

    eto, evolution X cockpit...




    More big news comes from the availability of a six-speed, dual-clutch transmission like Volkswagen's DSG unit. Shift paddles are mounted on the steering wheel, while a switch on the console delivers three different shift modes.

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    The gate type isn't prone to mis-shifts, because, like a manual, you can tell what gear you're in by touch. That's why a lot of people like them over straight ATs. It's easier to snick the lever sideways into "3" to downshift than searching for the small O/D button and flicking it off.

    Well, if not easier, at least more enjoyable.

    On a straight-type, you have to take care not to shift it into "N". Some over-eager shifting, in fact, can send you straight into "R" (if you're not careful), and I know at least one or two people who've wrecked AT's by doing this...

    Paddles are, by far, the most convenient, but there are some ergonomic problems. For one, you can lose the paddles when you twirl the wheel around, or mix them up if the wheel is upside down in your hands. For another, there's the aforementioned problem of not knowing what gear you're in without looking at the display panel.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    I prefer gate types because that's what I grew up with but I'm fine with conventional ones.

    Manumatics are just like ordinary a/t's once the novelty wears off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda View Post
    +1 on this.

    Zero HP loss! 8ms shifting!
    wow, DSG is indeed impressive. Subaru WRC shifts * 10ms.

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