[Merged:] M/T (Manual) vs A/T (Automatic) Transmission

[rain88ph]

hello guys! what transmission do you recommend for a first time driver who has to drive at least 40kms (to and from work) a day in EDSA traffic?

[ghosthunter]

hello guys! what transmission do you recommend for a first time driver who has to drive at least 40kms (to and from work) a day in EDSA traffic?

If you are buying a brand new car, get one with a CVT automatic tranny because it would give you ease of driving plus added benefit of saving a bit more gas because a CVT a/t tranny is slightly more efficient than a standard a/t. :cool:

BTW, 40km a day total or just one way? :question:

[the_wildthing]

Basta trapik panalo ang A/T sa ease of driving.

Come to think of it, talagang madali ang A/T. Yun yata ang primary reason why it was built.

[dazzler]

ano ba ang mas magandang gamitin, manual o automatic? ang tsikot ko ngayon manual. ala pa akong experience sa automatic transmission. hirap ba talagang mag overtake ang cars with auto trans?
balak ko kasing bumili ng SUV, Pajero (3 or 5 door) from subic or local. most of the time it will be used in Metro Manila and occasional off roading.
salamat..

[Bogeyman]

Meron na pong thread discussing the manual vs. automatic issue. Thanks.

[dazzler]

sorry..thanks..bago lang kasi ako..

[tagalog grl]

ammm,, pwede pa po dito? dito rin po kasi ako dinala ng link na un manual vs automatic..??
nwy po kng hindi po dito plz po pki lipat nlng po..sensya na po tlga..
anyway po, ask ko po sana kng safe un ng papapalit..
un po dati M/T gagawin nila A/T..??
and mahal po ba un?

[ILuvDetailing]

tagalog_grl: mahal yung conversion... you'll be better of sticking with the M/T or get a new A/T car if possible

[tagalog grl]

oo nga po noh?? para po sigurado..
haaaay,, gusto ko na nga po tlga mg ka A/T na car.. pero po masyado po kasi mahal un new A/T para sakin... o(>_<)o tiis muna..

[drapple22]

Hello Pipol,

Currently driving a 1.5 A/T. Overtaking with an A/T, driving skills and experience siguro will help.

Eto drawbacks ng A/T na hindi na mention dito, FYI lang po.

1. Engine brake not possible. Try to drive an A/T sa Quezon National Park with max load to understand. Maninigas paa mo sa pag hawak sa brake on downhill, especially pag superbagal sa harapan mo. Handbrake not an option, slippery road, baka mag lock ang rear tires, bangin ang papatakan mo.

2. Paano pag baha? Will you dare drive an A/T with water level sa middle door?

[alwayz_yummy]

Hello Pipol,

Currently driving a 1.5 A/T. Overtaking with an A/T, driving skills and experience siguro will help.

Eto drawbacks ng A/T na hindi na mention dito, FYI lang po.

excuse me sir..ask ko lang.... nag-ddrive po ba kayo talaga ng car/sasakyan with automatic tranny?ilang taon ka na ba nagda-drive ng a/t car?

ako sa 6 years experience ko i can collide with your opinion...

1. Engine brake not possible. Try to drive an A/T sa Quezon National Park with max load to understand. Maninigas paa mo sa pag hawak sa brake on downhill, especially pag superbagal sa harapan mo. Handbrake not an option, slippery road, baka mag lock ang rear tires, bangin ang papatakan mo.

ENGINE BRAKE IS POSSIBLE.. why? thats why there's this "4 or 3 or OD-off", ""2","L or 1" in the gear lever...kung semi-auto... kaya nga may "+ and -" gate.

ako nga baguio up and down with my "basura ng japan" na delica di ako nagkakaproblema sa engine brake....may 4L pa kung gusto walking speed to 10kph lang ang baba mo sa kenon.

2. Paano pag baha? Will you dare drive an A/T with water level sa middle door?

siyempre una sa lahat dapat alamin mo limits ng sasakyan mo...ang stupid mo namang lumusong sa tubig hanngang sa middle door mo,e ang air-intake mo naman ay nasa ankle-height..

this "basura of japan" of mine is lifted 2 inches. with 237/75r15 tires..so i get up to 4 inches of ground clearance..and this i tell you....

i ALWAYZ river cross it in quiapo, espanya, Ma. Clara, laong laan area and dito sa amin up to waist deep water during hard wet season...so its like up to my door side mouldings above my 2-tone paint,just below my lights.. just imagine how deep it is..

i just turn my aircon off,open my windows...shift to 4L and put to either "L", "2" and either "turn-on" or "off" my overdrive gear so i can attain up to maximum of 20 kph at 3000rpm and carefully traverse the water...

kung di ka convinced at baka sabihin mo mataas sasakyan ko,well..gusto kwento ko how i traverse the same places on my kia pride a/t but at only knee-deep waters(di me stupid to go on a waist deep na alam ko alternator e nito ay knee height and ang air intake ay hip height).

or baka sabihin mo di ako nag-mamanual...actually, our old L3VV and my Maxima are both manual tranny...in the same route at same conditions on my kia pride...i could say, its much more punishing to water cross a manual tranny than an automatic....

why? in a manual:1/4 release clutch and rev up the engine,then brake with out releasing the clutch when some stupids infront just stalled/afraid to go..

in a matic: shift to the lowest gear....rev up and practice your left foot to brake for you....simple noh..


no offense meant,ok...just wanna clarify this things...6 years na ako gumagamit ng auto tranny na sasakyan...teka sir tiga saan ka?

[ghosthunter]

Hello Pipol,

Currently driving a 1.5 A/T. Overtaking with an A/T, driving skills and experience siguro will help.

if overtaking, just select 1 or 2 on your shifter (depending on your current speed) and floor the gas. Nothing can be simplier.

Eto drawbacks ng A/T na hindi na mention dito, FYI lang po.

1. Engine brake not possible. Try to drive an A/T sa Quezon National Park with max load to understand. Maninigas paa mo sa pag hawak sa brake on downhill, especially pag superbagal sa harapan mo. Handbrake not an option, slippery road, baka mag lock ang rear tires, bangin ang papatakan mo.

I have driven my corolla a/t downhill going down both sides of antipolo and other areas. Engine brake is possible by selecting 1 or 2 on the shifter. No handbrakes needed.

2. Paano pag baha? Will you dare drive an A/T with water level sa middle door?

for sedans, even with a m/t tranny, going thru a flooded area with water level that high will stall any car.

[ILuvDetailing]

Paano pag baha? Will you dare drive an A/T with water level sa middle door?

Shift it to "L" or Low Gear and don't take your foot of the Gas, use your left foot for braking. Finally if you go don't stop or your dead meat.

[niky]

For anything with a computer box, driving through mid-door level flood is a pretty bad idea.

[drapple22]

Thanks for the info mga madlang pipol.

No probs with AT for bigger vehicles, we all agree on that. I am referring to using the Civic LXi AT which has a smaller engine and lower ground clearance.

There are just cases talaga na kelangan mo harapin ang baha. lets just say that there is no other alternative and you have to do it now. That is my worst manila experience. This forum provides helpful tips on that. thanks a lot!

For the downhill portion with 5 large sized passengers, including driver, it just keeps on going faster and faster, even on the lowest gear. Experience is on Quezon National Park. To give you an idea of the inclination, i tried a 2 month old strada going uphill,. 3400rpm on 3rd, shift to 4th, slowing down. there are portions uphill that vehicle slows down on 3rd gear. Wait. There is a place comparable to the Que Nat Park. There is a road from Tagaytay down to Laurel, Batangas. There is a portion that requires no more than 2nd gear to climb up.

Just sharing lang naman my experience, and I definitely need more experience on a small engine with an AT tranny.

Probinsyano po pala. Minsan nasa baguio. minsan nasa batangas. minsan nasa bicol. Minsan nasa tacloban via sorsogon on a ferry. Samar province has the worst road na nadaanan ko, 6 hours rough road, end to end. Maitanong na rin po, sino na po sa inyo naka try ng boracay via batangas on a ferry. Sabi kasi nila pwede na daw, pero di ko pa na try. May mga hassles po ba?

[alwayz_yummy]

Thanks for the info mga madlang pipol.

No probs with AT for bigger vehicles, we all agree on that. I am referring to using the Civic LXi AT which has a smaller engine and lower ground clearance.

well,as i've said...kia pride gtx 3-speed a/t ko kung di ka convinced....i think its way smaller than a civic...

For the downhill portion with 5 large sized passengers, including driver, it just keeps on going faster and faster, even on the lowest gear. Experience is on Quezon National Park. To give you an idea of the inclination, i tried a 2 month old strada going uphill,. 3400rpm on 3rd, shift to 4th, slowing down. there are portions uphill that vehicle slows down on 3rd gear. Wait. There is a place comparable to the Que Nat Park. There is a road from Tagaytay down to Laurel, Batangas. There is a portion that requires no more than 2nd gear to climb up.

Just sharing lang naman my experience, and I definitely need more experience on a small engine with an AT tranny.

Probinsyano po pala. Minsan nasa baguio. minsan nasa batangas. minsan nasa bicol. Minsan nasa tacloban via sorsogon on a ferry. Samar province has the worst road na nadaanan ko, 6 hours rough road, end to end. Maitanong na rin po, sino na po sa inyo naka try ng boracay via batangas on a ferry. Sabi kasi nila pwede na daw, pero di ko pa na try. May mga hassles po ba?

well, me...i weigh 250 lbs....and true, taga-atimonan lahi ng dad ko...kaya alam ko yan....kung sa "old zig-zag rd." or otherwise known as "bitukang manok" dadaan...when decending, and you want to attain 40 kph speed,go "2" or "L"..kasi kami usually up-and-down there at 40-70 kph...pag car minsan up to 90kph..

for my 6 years of a/t driving, well, i've experienced almost all common situations,e....

well, long driver din ako minsan-to-kalimitan...

di pa ako nakakapag-RORO,e.....gusto ko din maexperience,e.....

[kuroy]

ako matic din...pero mas mabilis bumatak pag manual kasi masasagad mo. i don't understand na mga tao dini gumagastos ng malaki para lang magpaconvert from manual to auto.

and mas maganda daw iturbo ang manual mas maraming possibility compare to auto

[SeaHorse]

Maitanong na rin po, sino na po sa inyo naka try ng boracay via batangas on a ferry. Sabi kasi nila pwede na daw, pero di ko pa na try. May mga hassles po ba?

drapple 22, it is possible to ferry your ride from manila to boracay. i live in iloilo and have tried the ro-ro bus (philtranco: iloilo-caticlan-mindoro-batangas). though i have not tried to do it with my delica, but one of my friend have done it with his nissan frontier 2.7. so far wala namang hassles.

Kung makabili na ako ng DMAX 4x4 A/T i may try to do it.

dagdag ko lang its possible to do engine breaking on an A/T downhill.

peace everyone.

[Emong3]

A/T pa rin! Sa gas consumption konti lang naman difference. Actually mas matipid mga matics ngayon if you know how to drive it properly. My 01 civic VTi consumes 1km/L higher than my M/T 95 hatchback. And to think of it, 1.6 yung VTi and 1.2 lang yung hatchback. Sa traffic, halos pareho lang consumption ot baka tipid pa ang matic dahil release lang ng brake aandar na. Sa manual rev ka pa upto 2000 para mag timpla ng gas and clutch. Sa Highway kung di ka kakarera tipid pa rin ang matic dahil mas mataas ang final drive gear ratio ng matic. You can cruise 120 kph 2500 rpm. Sa manual, 3000 rpm pag 120 kph ang takbo. Kung engine braking, use D2 (sa honda) or L sa iba. Ang generation ng A/T ngayon ay malayo compared nun 80's and early 90's dahil semi electronic na. Natutuwa nga ako sa civic ko dahil pag pababa, kusa siyang nag da-down shift para mag engine brake, talino noh?

Ok lang ang manual pag pang karera dahil mas mataas mechanical efficiency ng M/T. Sarap kasi ng feeling pag hinahataw ang 2nd gear upto 80kph! parang Granturismo-3! hehehe

[gaijin]

I've been driving my A/T car for nearly a year. When driving, I've only used the 'D'. I didn't dare read the manual (can't read japanese that much) as to what the '3' and '2' are. I guess the 'L' stands for low gear. Does that mean the '3' and '2' are lower gears than 'D' but higher than 'L'?