Honda Jazz/City CVT Problems. Anyone?

[pobre24]

Buti nabasa ko tong old thread na to. Planning kase ako to buy 2nd hand Idsi city.
some of my questions:
1. Yung jerking issue po ba sa automatic/cvt models lng nangyayari? Pag manual transmission ba walang ganito?

2. How about sa Vtec model?

Thanks in advance

I'd stay away from the CVT of this model. I sold my 2004 iDSI City because of the problematic CVT tranny. Starting 2008, it was no longer bearable because of the frequent jerks and I was advised by the CASA that it'll completely breakdown soon. While it was maintained by the CASA and they used the correct ATF, the frequency in changing the ATF also matters. Di pa kasi uso yung maintenance using months.. mileage lang yung basis and it takes me more than 9mos to reach 5k intervals. Btw, a brand new CVT transmission will cost 300k. I sold the car immediately for 200k in 2010.

[TheUninvited]

I'd stay away from the CVT of this model. I sold my 2004 iDSI City because of the problematic CVT tranny. Starting 2008, it was no longer bearable because of the frequent jerks and I was advised by the CASA that it'll completely breakdown soon. While it was maintained by the CASA and they used the correct ATF, the frequency in changing the ATF also matters. Di pa kasi uso yung maintenance using months.. mileage lang yung basis and it takes me more than 9mos to reach 5k intervals. Btw, a brand new CVT transmission will cost 300k. I sold the car immediately for 200k in 2010.

The CVT broke because you are using ATF in it.

[bryanf]

while some folks call this the cockroach (ipis) model, i actually find it cute. it reminds me of the jetsons.
until today, i am still confused at why the AT (actually, CVT) issue occured. manufacturer says it was because owner used the wrong fluid and/or the wrong pms intervals, while owner says the thing's design was flawed...
MT models are ok. they have no transmission issues.
i do not know if these models have vtec. but for ordinary daily use, i do not feel non-vtec-ness is an issue.

Thanks. I have seen some 2008 models with vtec engines 1.5L. Anyway I'm planning to buy the manual transmission...

[benchph1]

From what i heard this was a design issue. That is why Honda went back to a typical torque converter automatic on the next generation. (GE, GM)

Of course Honda will never admit this. Hehehe. But it seems they have sorted out the issue because the current generation is now back on CVT.


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[ale828]

Buti nabasa ko tong old thread na to. Planning kase ako to buy 2nd hand Idsi city.
some of my questions:
1. Yung jerking issue po ba sa automatic/cvt models lng nangyayari? Pag manual transmission ba walang ganito?

2. How about sa Vtec model?

Thanks in advance

The 2nd gen Honda City idsi uses the 1.3L engine, while the VTEc engine model uses the 1.5L but both uses the same CVT transmission and hence both have the same common jerking problem if it appears.
if the owner is meticulous in maintaining the car then the jerking might not appear, Honda mechanics suggested replacing the CVT fluid every 20tkm instead of manual booklets recommended 40tkm. always be sure to do a flushing and cleaning of the CVT every 20tkm.

the M/T model of this unit is a better option, less costly maintenance.

[Lin Dan]

The 2nd gen Honda City idsi uses the 1.3L engine, while the VTEc engine model uses the 1.5L but both uses the same CVT transmission and hence both have the same common jerking problem if it appears.
if the owner is meticulous in maintaining the car then the jerking might not appear, Honda mechanics suggested replacing the CVT fluid every 20tkm instead of manual booklets recommended 40tkm. always be sure to do a flushing and cleaning of the CVT every 20tkm.

the M/T model of this unit is a better option, less costly maintenance.

Ang ikli ng interval ha? Could this be due to the quality of the Honda CVT oil? Thermal breakdown related kaya?

[ale828]

Ang ikli ng interval ha? Could this be due to the quality of the Honda CVT oil? Thermal breakdown related kaya?

Not sure about the quality or thermal breakdown, but sabi sa akin due to the heavy traffic and stop and go daw.
umabot naman yung honda jazz CVT ko ng almost 100tkm without any major jerking problems.

[Lin Dan]

Not sure about the quality or thermal breakdown, but sabi sa akin due to the heavy traffic and stop and go daw.
umabot naman yung honda jazz CVT ko ng almost 100tkm without any major jerking problems.

Due to wear and tear na I think . . .

[dr. d]

Not sure about the quality or thermal breakdown, but sabi sa akin due to the heavy traffic and stop and go daw.
umabot naman yung honda jazz CVT ko ng almost 100tkm without any major jerking problems.

we'd hardly think honda will admit to poor product engineering and/or design, when it has another "plausible" explanation.

i think the caveat is, "if the product has an history of issues, it is prudent to stay away from it".

[engrjeptorio]

Lets share infos in this thread. I have this problem in my 2006 Honda City. It's jerking when the speed is below 30kph-40kph

When i let go of the gas pedal between these speeds, the rpm will suddenly drop to almost 0rpm! Nanginginig nga ang makina eh. It's like parang manual na nakukulangan ng gas at parang namamatay.

Isa pang problema ko is when you release the gas pedal at any speed, ang bilis mag decelerate parang naka engine brake although the rpm stays at 1k. And i can hear a whistling noise.

22k pa ang mileage ko. Never pa na replace ang CVT-F

what should i do mga pare? Replace muna CVT-F? I've tried resetting the CVT. I did the reset procedures but still no avail.

Sino pa ba dito nagkakaproblema sa kanilang CVT? Hindi ganito transmission ko dati. Ngayong lang lumabas ang mga anomalya.

Yung jazz gd ko naman is jeking ang na experience ko, so nagpalit ako ng 8spark plug at 4ignition coil sa likod. Tapos sa transmission naman pag nagreverae ka specially pag buhay ang AC nanginginig ang makina. So what should I do

[Gieric]

Hi Sirs,, help po..
may solution na po ba yung jerking problem and rpm drop sa Honda GD Jazz/Fit??

[StockEngine]

Hi Sirs,, help po..
may solution na po ba yung jerking problem and rpm drop sa Honda GD Jazz/Fit??

rpm drop.. it is most likely the ignition coils


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[johnricov]

[KcireReaver]

ilang liters po kelangan kung magpapalit ng cvtf sa Honda city

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[babkalakal]

sorry buhayin ko lang uli. time for CVT fluid change yun 2009 jazz gd 1.5 vtec ni pinsan. awa ng panahon ok pa yun cvt 136000 kms. ask ko lang ang tamang fluid CVT-F ba or HCF2? wala kasi nang manual nun binili

also consensus sana would you be comfortable using hyundai xteer cvt rated HCF2/z1 if it were your own car? tiwala naman ako sa xteer sa cvt hindi hehe.

genuine honda hcf is 2.5k hyundai xteer is 1.5k eh medyo penny pinching din.

thanks sa sasagot.

[StockEngine]

sorry buhayin ko lang uli. time for CVT fluid change yun 2009 jazz gd 1.5 vtec ni pinsan. awa ng panahon ok pa yun cvt 136000 kms. ask ko lang ang tamang fluid CVT-F ba or HCF2? wala kasi nang manual nun binili

also consensus sana would you be comfortable using hyundai xteer cvt rated HCF2/z1 if it were your own car? tiwala naman ako sa xteer sa cvt hindi hehe.

genuine honda hcf is 2.5k hyundai xteer is 1.5k eh medyo penny pinching din.

thanks sa sasagot.

it meets gen2 (current)

and gen1 honda cvt fluid requirements...

use correct amount...

[travajante]

sorry buhayin ko lang uli. time for CVT fluid change yun 2009 jazz gd 1.5 vtec ni pinsan. awa ng panahon ok pa yun cvt 136000 kms. ask ko lang ang tamang fluid CVT-F ba or HCF2? wala kasi nang manual nun binili

also consensus sana would you be comfortable using hyundai xteer cvt rated HCF2/z1 if it were your own car? tiwala naman ako sa xteer sa cvt hindi hehe.

genuine honda hcf is 2.5k hyundai xteer is 1.5k eh medyo penny pinching din.

thanks sa sasagot.

Confused. Wasn't the 2009 a GE Jazz w/ A/T, not CVT?[emoji848]

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[babkalakal]

it meets gen2 (current)

and gen1 honda cvt fluid requirements...

use correct amount...

thank you. will most probably use this.

[babkalakal]

Confused. Wasn't the 2009 a GE Jazz w/ A/T, not CVT?[emoji848]

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had to look it up sa picture pa. definitely cvt so you are correct not a 2009 model. 2006 ata. sorry for the brain farct there.

[travajante]

had to look it up sa picture pa. definitely cvt so you are correct not a 2009 model. 2006 ata. sorry for the brain farct there.

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