Honda Jazz/City CVT Problems. Anyone?

[suysuy]

Lets share infos in this thread. I have this problem in my 2006 Honda City. It's jerking when the speed is below 30kph-40kph

When i let go of the gas pedal between these speeds, the rpm will suddenly drop to almost 0rpm! Nanginginig nga ang makina eh. It's like parang manual na nakukulangan ng gas at parang namamatay.

Isa pang problema ko is when you release the gas pedal at any speed, ang bilis mag decelerate parang naka engine brake although the rpm stays at 1k. And i can hear a whistling noise.

22k pa ang mileage ko. Never pa na replace ang CVT-F

what should i do mga pare? Replace muna CVT-F? I've tried resetting the CVT. I did the reset procedures but still no avail.

Sino pa ba dito nagkakaproblema sa kanilang CVT? Hindi ganito transmission ko dati. Ngayong lang lumabas ang mga anomalya.

[mbeige]

What makes you think it's the transmission? Check if you have stuck calipers that are grabbing on the discs. The whistling noise can mean a very high pitched sound related to metal friction. See if you can do this on an isolated road and have somebody follow you safely see if you can replicate the noise, from outside the car your friend can possibly point to a more specific spot.

The reason I said it's not the CVT is because when you release the pedal the RPM drops to 1000, if it's engine braking via the transmission then the RPM should be high up. See if you can also do another test but this time shift the transmission lever to neutral (N) and coast to a stop. Does it feel like something is dragging it to a halt? Do not reengage the shift lever until you're at a full stop to be safe.

Do the symptoms appear above 40kph too? A final test to isolate the brakes is to check if the wheels are hot after a brief drive. At most they should be mildly warm if the brakes are working good. Any wheel that's really hot after a short, leisurely drive will indicate grabbing brakes.

[suysuy]

*mbiege

pasenxa hehe medyo naguluhan ata kayo sa post ko. it drops to nearly 0. it means the needle is just above na 0 mark. and yeah, ive tried to shift into neutral countless times. i do it everytime when i want to "menor" kasi if you just release the gas pedal, in just about 5 seconds lets say you are doing 50-60kph. in just 5 or less than 5 seconds, your speed will go down to 20. and when it reaches that speed, you can feel a jerk. its like the tranmission just went neutral and the speed will not go down anymore less than 15kph.

another problem ism when you are travelling at 20-30kph, then release the pedal, the needle will jerk from 1100rpm to almost stalling the engine. meaning manginig siya.

and when from any speed to a complete stop, the needle drops down again to almost zero rpm. there is an instance when the engine made a "CLUG!!!" sound. mga 3 times na ata while doing a complete stop. the sound came in front.

its a whistling sound. not a high pitched sound. so definitely not the brakes

[suysuy]

and yeah what i meant about the "engine braking" feel is that the car actually slows faster that usual. its like having short gears. despite the rpm not rising, the car slows faster than usual. it should coast to almost a complete stop smoothly. but mine does not, it drops to 20kph very quickly then you can just feel the car stabilize at 15kph.

im gonna take a video and post it here

[suysuy]

up lang hehe

[mazdamazda]

Has the casa checked it already? Seems like you are still within the warranty period.

Does that happen also when you switch to the manual mode?

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[mey0r]

Lets share infos in this thread. I have this problem in my 2006 Honda City. It's jerking when the speed is below 30kph-40kph

When i let go of the gas pedal between these speeds, the rpm will suddenly drop to almost 0rpm! Nanginginig nga ang makina eh. It's like parang manual na nakukulangan ng gas at parang namamatay.

Isa pang problema ko is when you release the gas pedal at any speed, ang bilis mag decelerate parang naka engine brake although the rpm stays at 1k. And i can hear a whistling noise.

22k pa ang mileage ko. Never pa na replace ang CVT-F

what should i do mga pare? Replace muna CVT-F? I've tried resetting the CVT. I did the reset procedures but still no avail.

Sino pa ba dito nagkakaproblema sa kanilang CVT? Hindi ganito transmission ko dati. Ngayong lang lumabas ang mga anomalya.

Is this the 7-speed CVT version? Nagkaroon ata talaga ng problema tong version na to ng Honda. Im not sure kung ni recall to, thats why yung mga sumunod na AT nila hindi na CVT ginamit.

[mm15744]

Is this the 7-speed CVT version? Nagkaroon ata talaga ng problema tong version na to ng Honda. Im not sure kung ni recall to, thats why yung mga sumunod na AT nila hindi na CVT ginamit.

Meyor, hindi na CVT ang current version ng 2009 Jazz and City not because CVT is not reliable. I have a chief mechanic cousin in Honda and it is the price of manufacturing of the CVT. Mas mahal kc ang CVT, kung ito pa rin ang ginamit sa 2009, konti lang ang kanilang revenue. Thats the reason why they put it back to conventional tranny.

Pero sa Japan iba ang case, may CVT pa rin dun because iba ang labanan dun. May rule dun na every 5 or 10 yr kelangan mo na palitan ang car mo sira man or hindi. Marketing wise, cgurado may business dun. Pero here sa atin, thailand malaysia and others ay iba ang case.

CVT Trannys are the best transmission na nahawakan ko sa buong buhay ko na pagdadrive...in fact, it is recommended by my cousin cheifs mechanic of Honda. So i encourage you all na hindi pa nakakatikim magdrive ng CVT, try nyo at nang malaman nyo ang kaibahan...

Ang naging Issue lang talaga sa 1st batch CVT (2003-2004) are only the fluid. During test run ng CVT on 2003 cyempre ang gamit dun ay yung ordinary AT fluid.

2005 to 2008 are almost perfect na with the use of CVTF R&D'd ng honda at very rare na ang complains. At syempre natuto na rin ang mga honda lovers to religously maintained ang CVT. It will only cost 2500 for fluid change every 20,000 km (that would be equivalent to 2 yrs)...mura maintenance nito mga tol compare sa "SATISFACTION" na ibibigay sa yo.

[mey0r]

how about yung mga cvt ng lancer na sportronic kaya? nagkaron din ng ganitong problema?

[erwinmojica68]

Good day everyone. I have a Honda City 2004 Model I DSI. Matic na CVt Tranny 7 speed. It posted a 114,000 kms. Need to ask a few questions sa mga peeps dito.

1. CVTF ang recommended n langis ng Honda casa . 550/li , apat yun PHP 2,200 . Wala na ba equivalent oil yun na mas mura muna ? Kasi parang unfair naman if Honda Oil lang. Last Tranny change oil ko 78,000km.

2. Pinalitan ko na baterry ko 3x na. Need daw i reprogram ang computer box. Need ba talaga ito> ? Total cost ko PHP 3.086 dito sa Honda Cavite. atras muna ako. Mahal.

[ghosthunter]

Good day everyone. I have a Honda City 2004 Model I DSI. Matic na CVt Tranny 7 speed. It posted a 114,000 kms. Need to ask a few questions sa mga peeps dito.

1. CVTF ang recommended n langis ng Honda casa . 550/li , apat yun PHP 2,200 . Wala na ba equivalent oil yun na mas mura muna ? Kasi parang unfair naman if Honda Oil lang. Last Tranny change oil ko 78,000km.

No choice about this. If you want the CVT to last long, you will need to use the special CVT tranny fluid that Honda sells. If you use a different fluid, it will cause the tranny to fail. Just consider it as investment against sudden tranny failure which is more expensive to fix.

2. Pinalitan ko na baterry ko 3x na. Need daw i reprogram ang computer box. Need ba talaga ito> ? Total cost ko PHP 3.086 dito sa Honda Cavite. atras muna ako. Mahal.

From our experience with our Honda City 1.3L iDSi, we didn't need to reprogram the ECU after a battery replacement.

[CVT]

Same with our 1.3L iDSI CVT ride,- no need to reprogram the ECU after the battery change.... No problem whatsoever with our ride.

Over a span of ~5 years,- replaced the battery thrice already. Last one was March this year... A battery, in our case, lasts for 18months approx.

8800:juggle:

[OldSchoolHack]

Nakaka asar pag Honda CVT. Nalunod yung Honda CVT ko and I had to change CVT fluid 5 times before the fluid became clean and with no contamination. And it was over several days (as just changing like engine oil will not work). And one 3.5L cost P2K++.

I might have done it incorrectly but then my CVT now is clean and not contaminated. Doing it by myself did save me labor charges (plus no waiting line).

And I plan to change it again after 6 months just to make sure. Mahal pag masira CVT tranny.

[deogracias22]

Mga Bros,

Here's my problem with my Honda City IDSI A/T 2004 with 7 speed mode
1. Pag nag REVERSE meron grinding sound na krugggggg na parang umiikot grabee ingay.
2. Pag umandar ang compressor nadadagdagan yung noise vibrating sound ng engine..

Panu ito nagsimula?? pinalitan ko ng ATF oil instead na CVTF Fluid dahil wala ako idea coz second hand ko na nabili yung oto i bought it at 42K Odoreading and its now 52K na..

2 times na kaming nagpalit ng CVTF Fluid pero andun pa rin yung ingay na kruggggg sound pag naka REVERSE mode ka na kahit di mo pa tinatapatakan accelerator (try ko pa din ba mag palit for the 3rd hayyyy kamahal ng CVTF fluid wewwww) it's cost me at 5000 petot na sa CVTF..

We replace all spark plugs and reset the ECU but still andun pa rin yung krugggg sound pag naka reverse mode

ASk sa akin ni Doc Abet ng Honda Cars need macheck yung flywheel para cgurado or we need to replace a new transmission costing 200K plus

Iniicip ko baka sa maling ATF fluid na nailagay dati sa tranny ko kaya nagkaroon ng ganitong problema

Please help me what to do mga kapatid need your advise here wahhhhh

[barcode23]

Mga Bros,

Here's my problem with my Honda City IDSI A/T 2004 with 7 speed mode
1. Pag nag REVERSE meron grinding sound na krugggggg na parang umiikot grabee ingay.
2. Pag umandar ang compressor nadadagdagan yung noise vibrating sound ng engine..

Panu ito nagsimula?? pinalitan ko ng ATF oil instead na CVTF Fluid dahil wala ako idea coz second hand ko na nabili yung oto i bought it at 42K Odoreading and its now 52K na..

2 times na kaming nagpalit ng CVTF Fluid pero andun pa rin yung ingay na kruggggg sound pag naka REVERSE mode ka na kahit di mo pa tinatapatakan accelerator (try ko pa din ba mag palit for the 3rd hayyyy kamahal ng CVTF fluid wewwww) it's cost me at 5000 petot na sa CVTF..

We replace all spark plugs and reset the ECU but still andun pa rin yung krugggg sound pag naka reverse mode

ASk sa akin ni Doc Abet ng Honda Cars need macheck yung flywheel para cgurado or we need to replace a new transmission costing 200K plus

Iniicip ko baka sa maling ATF fluid na nailagay dati sa tranny ko kaya nagkaroon ng ganitong problema

Please help me what to do mga kapatid need your advise here wahhhhh

sir i think we have the same problem,, yun city2003(iDSi) ko po ganito din pag nag reverse ka, pag release mo ng brake may kruggg sound din, pero di naman masyado maingay and minsan ko lang din naririnig, pina check ko po sa honda sta.rosa and sabi nila tranny nga daw po yun problema, need daw palitan yun tranny mga around 378k magagastos.. hehe mas mahal pa sa value nun auto ko , solution nila eh pinalitan ng CVTF, kaso pansin ko mas lalo lumala yun kruggg sound..

[OldSchoolHack]

Mga Bros,

........

Panu ito nagsimula?? pinalitan ko ng ATF oil instead na CVTF Fluid dahil wala ako idea coz second hand ko na nabili yung oto i bought it at 42K Odoreading and its now 52K na..

........

cgurado or we need to replace a new transmission costing 200K plus

Iniicip ko baka sa maling ATF fluid na nailagay dati sa tranny ko kaya nagkaroon ng ganitong problema

Please help me what to do mga kapatid need your advise here wahhhhh

Natumbok mo din yung cause at solution. Maling CVT fluid results to failure ng transmission.

And yup change transmission sinasabi nila dahil walang makaayos niyan. Pero kung meron pwedeng ayusin yan. But we do not have mechanics with such skills or resources here in the Philippines. If you find someone who can fix it, swerte mo. Sa Honda they always choose the easiest way, that is replace the tranny. Actually kahit anong problem modern cars (post 2000) parang change lang agad hindi tulad ng pre2000 cars. Most problems anyway.

Bottomline.....sorry change tranny is your best course.

[ExROLLA]

our city also jerks.. the worse is it stalls in D.. two mechanics have told us that it would be better and practical to replace the tranny of our city with a surlus cvt that are found in banaue.. has anyone tried this option? whats the result? thanks in advance!

[BobbyD]

our city also jerks.. the worse is it stalls in D.. two mechanics have told us that it would be better and practical to replace the tranny of our city with a surlus cvt that are found in banaue.. has anyone tried this option? whats the result? thanks in advance!

Hi there, were you able to fix your jerking problem? I am experiencing it with my 2005 Honda City 1.3 1DSI. Thank you.

[nashimoto]

replaced my cvt tranny to solve jerkiness and slipping issues.. problem solved so far.

[jessemarzan80]

salamat talaga sa mga tips dito, buti na lang nabenta ko na yun 2004 honda city ko at pinalitan ko 2005 vios at pero pero pero nagamit ko siya hangang 2012... binenta ko lang para makaiwas sakit ulo... pero na miss ko yun takbo swabeng swabe metro manila hangang pangasinan... nabasa ko yun problem suysuy natakot talaga ako at binasa yun tungkol sa recall kaya nauwi sa bentahan.. hangang ngayon vios gamit ko wala problema.. ang problema ngayon bumili utol ko 2010 honda city 1.5 cvt... worry lang ako baka magkaproblema.. salamat ulit at buti may mga forum na ganito... tanong ko lang ok na ba yun honda city ngayon mga 2010 ang up?? baka may ma share kayo link na negative... since 2006 pa ako nandito mabuhay tsikot at sa mga tipsters