Vehicular accident

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Mga Sir and Ma'am hingi lang po ng inputs regarding sa accident na nangyari sa akin.

I was travelling Agham rd. Naka green light yung traffic light but still medyo mabagal padin takbo ko mga 35 to 40kph tapos mga ilang metres before crossing the agham/quezon ave intersection, may isang PUJ na nag beat ng red light papuntang edsa. So medyo na focus yung attention ko sa PUJ nun then nung halos patawid na ako sa intersection, may isang PUJ ulit na nag beat ng red light and it was too late for me para maiwasan siya kaya ayun nabangga ko yung tagiliran niya (right side) and sira yung buong front cut ng corolla small body ko.

Sino po ang maya kasalanan and dapat managot sa accident? ako na nakabangga sa PUJ or siya na nag beat ng red light kaya nangyari ang accident? TIA

[Horsepower]

Sya, kasi sya yung nasa wrong side of the LAW.

Dapat ikaw bayaran nya (kaso dadramahan ka nyan so stand your ground firmly).

BTW, meron kang insurance?

[claRkEnt]

well, ikaw ang bumangga so technically it is "your fault". besides, it is very hard to prove that he was trying to beat the red light unless you have willing witnesses.

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*Horsepower

Sir thanks sa reply. Actually siya mismo nung tinanong ng enforecer nung nagkaharap na kami eh sabi niya "kasi may sinusundan siyan jeep". Hindi siya makasago ng maayos and talagang halata mo na siya may kasalanan.

Ang problem eh yung operator eh matigas kasi nga naman ako daw bumangga kahit saang anggulo tignan. Pero sabi ko mag usap nalang kami sa court.

Sabi nung Enforcer sure na panalo ako sa kaso kasi siya mismo nung iniinterview kami eh di masagot ng maayos nung driver ke orange daw yung light kaya tumuloy parin siya tapos ke may maunang PUJ daw kaya sinundyan nya etc..

Oo nga pala, may witness din ako na nagpapatunay na stop yung jeep kasi pasahero siya dun sa jeep and bumaba siya mga ialng metro bago kami nagkabanggaan ng PUJ kasi natakot siya dun sa pagpapatakbo ng jeep kaskasero daw. Nakuhanan ko na siya ng statement and ako ang unang nagfile ng reklamo, (hindi pa daw nag file yung operator).

Malaki po ba talaga chance ko na manalo sa ganitong case? TIA

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*claRkEnt
sir may witness po ako and yung enforcer mismo na nag interview sa aming dalawa eh talagang alam na mananalo ako pero siyempre hindi naman siya mismo mag dedecide nun kung hindi yung mag hahandle ng case sa city hall.

[Horsepower]

To be candid with you, I am not a lawyer so better ask one to be sure.

In the interest of right vs wrong, natural tama ka. and you did the right thing by having it documented by the enforcer, securing the witness testimony and filing the complaint.

However, with our judiciary system, good luck. If you can have a settlement from the operator, mas ok yun than drag on with this kasi maubos oras mo dito (unless you're getting a huge amount of settlement). Pero wag na wag ka pipirma ng quitclaim and release waiver unless you get hold of the cash (kasi check pwede tumalbog, hintay kamo ng clearing). Check mo rin baka fake yung bills na ibayad sayo.

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"...Pero wag na wag ka pipirma ng quitclaim and release waiver unless you get hold of the cash (kasi check pwede tumalbog, hintay kamo ng clearing).."

ok to sir i will keep this in mind. Sana nga sa preliminary investigation sana mag kaayos na kami.

35k damage sa car ko and ipinapagawa ko na siya kasi kailangan namin siya.

[badbadtz.carlo]

"...Pero wag na wag ka pipirma ng quitclaim and release waiver unless you get hold of the cash (kasi check pwede tumalbog, hintay kamo ng clearing).."

ok to sir i will keep this in mind. Sana nga sa preliminary investigation sana mag kaayos na kami.

35k damage sa car ko and ipinapagawa ko na siya kasi kailangan namin siya.

sorry to hear about the accident..
with regard to your queries, as much as possible, avoid court battles.. kasi, even if surewin ka, matagal and agonizing ung process, not to mention costly both in monetary terms but also time and effort as well.

try to have out of court settlements and get the most from the other party to cover for the expenses. hope you still have your car covered with insurance.

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*badbadtz.carlo

sir unfortunately tpl lang insurance ng car ko kasi luma na siya. Eh sana nga wag ng magmatigas yung operator lalo na't may witness ako and pati yung enforcer kampi sa akin .

Before naman daw umakyat sa korte eh susubukan munang mag kaayos kami ang sana nga mauwi sa ganun.

Nakakaasar lang talaga and ang parang ang hirap lunukin na ako lang ang gagastos para sa damage ng car ko kaya gusto ko mag kaharap kami nung operator para mapagusapan ang lahat.

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Pero sa batas trapiko po ba eh talagang ako po yung nasa tama dahil naka GO/GREEN ako kahit na ako pa ang bumangga sa PUJ?

[CVT]

It will be your word against him/them, unless the other party admits to him/them crossing the intersection on a red light, which I doubt they will..... It would be good if there are witnesses who are willing to testify... Else, it will be the position of the vehicles, sadly....

7707:band:

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*CVT

Sir thanks for the reply. I do have a witness and credible siya I mean hindi bias on both camp kasi passenger siya dun sa PUJ. Sabi niya talagang kaskasero yung driver kasi from Sandigan bayan palang eh ang bilis na magpatakbo ng sasakyan.

Driver din siya ng jeep kaya asar daw siya sa mga ganung driver kaya pati plate # nga siya nag bigay sa akin.

[testament11]

ang masasbi ko, oo kasalanan niya kung bakit mo siya nahagip. buti nga jeep ang nabangga mo at hindi pedestrian.

well, kung may witness ka, possible you win the case. pero take note, PUJ ang agrabiyado dito. madalas ang mga yan, wala sa ayos magbayad ng damages. ingat ka lang sa bagay na yan

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Kung sa preliminary investigation eh talagang napatunayang lumabag sila sa batas trapiko kaya ko sila nabangga, may laban pa ba yung operator kahit na obvious na sila talaga ang may sala?

[Mile2]

Stand your ground that he beats the red light and you are a sure winner on the claims. If ever dumating kayo sa punto na maghaharap kayo sa PA office sa QC Hall dumalo ka, 3 times non appearance ng other parties puede mo ng ipa-subpoena ng warrant of arrest. Ganyan napuwersang magbayad yung nakabangga sa akin sa commonwealth on my Mitsu Galant.

Yung driver ang hahabulin mo, yung operator civil case lang puede mong isampa.

Give these reckless jeepney drivers a lesson, lintek...dami ng napatay ng mga yan sa Commonwealth pati mga tumatawid di pinatawad. Just weeks ago a friend of mind was overrun by a Jeepney in Commonwealth, katwiran nung driver mabilis siya at mababangga niya yung truck kaya yung tumatawid na lang ang dinale niya

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Yung operator nga pala eh medyo malaki naman kasi may 20+ PUJs daw siya sabi nung enforcer pero medyo matigas daw yun kesyo Igorot daw lahi, no offense meant sa mga Igorot po ha.

Sabi nung enforcer eh yung witness ko daw ang pinaka plus factor ko para mapanalo yung case kung magkataon.

[rna800]

If I were you, just go on your separate ways. Wala kang mapipiga diyan sa mga ulupong na yan. My distant relative was hit by a jeepney before, he didn't get a single cent. The operator always delays the negotiation blah blah blah until he got tired of their excuses.

That also happened to me but on a different angle. Just after the gate of Ayala Alabang Village, there is a big intersection with traffic light. I was already at the other end almost entering the other side of the road when this Besta rocketed from the other side, considering they were red and there were cars stopped on their lane. He hit the right fender of my car and due to the strong impact, we both ended to the other side of the street leaving both our cars totalled and both were towed. I was with my friends and I was glad that he didn't hit the passenger side. To cut the story short, we both went our separate ways due to the fact that he was broke and his daughter was going to graduate so he was saving. He should have thought of that before beating that red light and driving wrecklessly. He was insistent that he would pay us if he would include his repairs in our insurance. How stupid was that? That negotiation happened in a resto and he even had the guts to order a lot since we told him that it was our treat. After we left, we don't know what happened to him. Our car got repaired after a month leaving us with more than 135k in our bill but since it has insurance, we only paid around 8k, I think. Then a letter from the Muntinlupa police arrived asking us if we want to file a case since it was proven that the Besta was at fault. I didn't even bother anymore.

My point is, you would just waste an awful lots of time, effort and money to go after that knucklehead and would just end up with nothing.

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*Mile2
Sir kung hindi kaya mag bayad nung driver, Yung operator po ba ang dapat magbayad sa akin? as in mapapilitan siya na mag bayad kung hindi may kaso siya di ba po?

*rna800
yung sa driver talaga alam ko wala akong mapipiga pero sir yung sa operator po ang talagang hahabulin ko.

thanks sa mga replies nyo!

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^that is the wrong attitude naman, the reason why these morons drive that way is bec of people like you who will just shrug everything off, and will just let them go since it will be a burden for you to run after them..

they will never learn, if we will just let it go...

*TS,

kung willing ka naman na mag demanda go for it. para matutot itong mga balusabas na PUV drivers.

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And may plus din po ba kung ako yung complainant and not the respondent?
Kasi lalo atang lumalabas na kaya ako ang nag complain eh kasi i know na nasa tama ako and kaya hindi na nag file ng complaint yung driver eh kasi alam niyang mali siya parang ganun ang analogy ko.

Lalo tuloy lumalakas loob ko na mananalo ako sa kaso dahil sa mga reply niyo. Kesehodang ako ang bumangga sa kanya basta GO ako and dapat nag stop siya and plus may witness pa ako and pati yung enforcer eh sinasabing walang katalo talo yung kaso ko.

Sabi nung imbestigador na gumawa nung file complaint ko eh ang kaso daw eh "reckless imprudence resulting to damage to propert and physical injury". tama po ba ito?