PUV Modernization is not Anti Poor.

[GTi]

As I posted earlier... My family used to own PUVs...

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Here's the thing with Euro-4 engines...

Operators will keep on reducing the "tech" attached to the engine. It will work with almost 60% of the power.
Less "tech" means lesser maintenance.

I remember even removing the engine's turbo and modifying the cooling system.

If an Operator decides to use a proper Euro-4 engine... The Jeep's brakes will not be enough to stop the vehicle.

Then there's the "conversion plate" as most modern engines are automatic
Mis-matched Tranny and Differential.

It is just more economical to just replace the Jeeps with modern mini-buses.

I remember that we used to have a 10 wheeler 6WA1 Giga flatbed. It wasn't used much and was only driven in and around Metro Manila. One day the turbo failed and replacement would be costly. The driver suggested that the truck could make do without the turbo since our usage doesn't require that much power. Run it did. Smoky and bereft of power, but it did run. [emoji28]

Unfortunately, I don't think there are any old school diesels that would be able to pass Euro 4 standards. It probably won't be as easy to reduce "tech" in modern CRDIs now, since removal of any one item might cause the programming to go berserk and lead to heavy smoke and/or limp mode.

They could import Euro 4 Japan surplus Elfs, convert the rear into minibuses and it'll still be "straight Isuzu". And most likely at a fraction of the asking price of local manufacturers. Then the 4JJ1 would become the new 4BA1. [emoji16]

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[17Sphynx17]

as it should be.

first a modern mini bus cost like 2.7m - hyundai county.

no idea where some get the figures that the modern jeepney cost like 2m- maybe for the up'd spec'd versions. but for the basic it's like 1- 1.2 m depending on the capacity- with that youget the proper ingress and egress

Hyundai just released the h100 class for the modern jeepney, no a/c is less than 1.3m, with a/c almost 1.4m php

I wonder how much the options like cctv, payment system etc will add to the vehicle.

But this is brand new, not sure if price listed in carguide is srp or after subsidy?

https://www.carguide. ph/2019/10/hyundais-modern-jeepney-class-1-is-most.html?m=1

Will mitsubishi play an l300 modern jeep model by next year to have a model compete in the market?

[ice15]

It probably won't be as easy to reduce "tech" in modern CRDIs now, since removal of any one item might cause the programming to go berserk and lead to heavy smoke and/or limp mode.

local machine shops should be able to change the cylinder head + injection...

it will work

[GTi]

local machine shops should be able to change the cylinder head + injection...

it will work

I wonder how that will affect the emissions though?

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[playplugg]

I remember that we used to have a 10 wheeler 6WA1 Giga flatbed. It wasn't used much and was only driven in and around Metro Manila. One day the turbo failed and replacement would be costly. The driver suggested that the truck could make do without the turbo since our usage doesn't require that much power. Run it did. Smoky and bereft of power, but it did run. [emoji28]

Unfortunately, I don't think there are any old school diesels that would be able to pass Euro 4 standards. It probably won't be as easy to reduce "tech" in modern CRDIs now, since removal of any one item might cause the programming to go berserk and lead to heavy smoke and/or limp mode.

They could import Euro 4 Japan surplus Elfs, convert the rear into minibuses and it'll still be "straight Isuzu". And most likely at a fraction of the asking price of local manufacturers. Then the 4JJ1 would become the new 4BA1. [emoji16]

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Sir GTi..


Hindi naman talaga anti poor ang labanan.... Yung mga operator na na-uuto na no-read/no-write ang victim(s)..


Kayang kaya naman ng certain(s) operator(s)


Yung mga umaalis na driver(s) for "greener pasture"

[GTi]

Sir GTi..


Hindi naman talaga anti poor ang labanan.... Yung mga operator na na-uuto na no-read/no-write ang victim(s)..


Kayang kaya naman ng certain(s) operator(s)


Yung mga umaalis na driver(s) for "greener pasture"

Honestly though. The taxis, UV Express and buses have been adhering to that age limit for years. Yung sa taxi pa nga 10 years lang ata eh. This is why the only PUVs that still run around with N, P and T plates are the jeepneys.

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[tarzegetakizerd]

why isn't anyone showing any logical calculations, though. My mind continues to reject anything na hindi backed-up kahit simple breakdowns lang ng kung paano mas advantageous ang isang option compared to the rest. Ang nakikita ko lang is yung breakdown kung paano babayaran yung jeep.

[dr. d]

why isn't anyone showing any logical calculations, though. My mind continues to reject anything na hindi backed-up kahit simple breakdowns lang ng kung paano mas advantageous ang isang option compared to the rest. Ang nakikita ko lang is yung breakdown kung paano babayaran yung jeep.

my wild guess is,
they can't...
and still contend that it's do-able.

[heavenlee]

I wonder why too. A simple and logical business plan can turn the tide and convince stakeholders that it's more advantageous for them to embrace this modernization program rather than oppose it. That this modernization program is a win-win solution. And yet, there is none, even 2 years later. Why is government not producing it? My guess -- probably because the figures really do suck and a lot of people will really get shafted while a select few will laugh all the way to the bank. Figues don't lie, (government) people do.

[dr. d]

e-jeepneys have already been introduced.
if they are as street-good as they are believed to be,
i imagine, they should be flying off the shelves by now.