LTO to implement RFID tags

[cjtjamandra]

Kakakuha ko lang ng rehistro. pinalakad ko sa iba eh. hehe

sa gitna daw dapat ilagay yung RFid, sayang kakatint ko pa lang.. di ko pa nga nilalagay eh, manghuhuli na kaya sila ng walang RFid?

mga bro sa resibo niyo pala nakalagay ba yung RFid? sakin kasi walang nakalagay na RFid, pero pansin ko yung computer fee naging 519 dati 169 lang. Dun kaya nilagay yung RFid?

[lagim_29]

eh di paano yan,eh last year ko lang binili oto ko, 3 years yung registration niya,wala akong rfid,huhulihin kaya nila ako?hmmm...

[LeOxe]

I wonder how thick is the rfid tag? by the looks of it, it is just as thick as a regular LTO sticker. An example of an rfid tag in use in vehicles today are your NLEX or SLEX e-pass tags. They are really thick, because this devices contain rf receiver and transmitter circuitry and a coil. The coil catches the radio frequency emitted from a reader, converts part of it into power for the circuitry to be able to allow the id tag to transmit information back to the reader.

Have the LTO ever demonstrated how it is going to be used to the public??? This could just be an ordinary sticker for all we know.

Correct! This could just be another ordinary sticker. They should first do an actual demonstration on how the system works in public. Then get rid of the ricey "RFID LIKE SAFER ROADS" slogan on the sticker! I can live with a sticker in the middle of my windshield but with that slogan and design?! No no! I really think they're just fooling us to think there really is a microchip in the sticker. Even SIM cards with a little microchip embedded on it is thicker than the RFID sticker.

[cjtjamandra]

Correct! This could just be another ordinary sticker. They should first do an actual demonstration on how the system works in public. Then get rid of the ricey "RFID LIKE SAFER ROADS" slogan on the sticker! I can live with a sticker in the middle of my windshield but with that slogan and design?! No no! I really think they're just fooling us to think there really is a microchip in the sticker. Even SIM cards with a little microchip embedded on it is thicker than the RFID sticker.

Akala ko nga fake yung binigay sakin. pero nung nakita ko sa net yung picture ng rfid eh kamukha naman. sobra kasing nipis kumpara sa mga rfid na nasa ibang bansa. parang wala namang chip sa loob.

[ghosthunter]

[james00112233]

mga bro sa resibo niyo pala nakalagay ba yung RFid? sakin kasi walang nakalagay na RFid, pero pansin ko yung computer fee naging 519 dati 169 lang. Dun kaya nilagay yung RFid?

sinama na nila dun yung bayad para sa RFID.

[hakkinen]

mga bros, anyone knows the status on LTO C.Aguinaldo branch (20th ave) kung tuloy ba ang RFID? i read somewhere here na yung LTO pasig daw ay suspended yata.
actually, nag early register nako last week, kelangan ko lang balikan within this week yung mga stickers. ang pinagtataka ko during my registration last week, walang ingay or ni hindi man lang ako sinabihan ng mga taga LTO doon about this RFID implementation. nagulat na lang ako this week na implemented na pala. now, i am thinking if i should wait till fri before i go back to them again to get my stickers, at least that would buy me time kung sakaling biglang i-suspend nga ito.
hirap kasi nyan pag nagkataon, kawawa ung mga mga nabutasan na ng tint sa harap TIA

[james00112233]

*hakkinen, kasama na ba ang RFID sa binayad mo?

[hakkinen]

*hakkinen, kasama na ba ang RFID sa binayad mo?

not sure bro eh, computer fee lang ang nakalagay doon sa OR. sana nman kasama na. to make it worse, out of service pa ang telephone sa LTO 20th ave branch, naputulan daw sabi ng taga roon. kaya tuloy di ko mausisa nang di na kelangan pumunta don.

[1D4LV]

not sure bro eh, computer fee lang ang nakalagay doon sa OR. sana nman kasama na. to make it worse, out of service pa ang telephone sa LTO 20th ave branch, naputulan daw sabi ng taga roon. kaya tuloy di ko mausisa nang di na kelangan pumunta don.

ang isa pang tanong ko dyan sa RFID. since it is installed inside the windshield, pano yan kung nagpalit ka ng tints, o nagpalagay ng tints? and as i've heard sa news, hindi pa ready ang mga RFID readers, puro RFID stickers pa lang ang available, so parang useless pa yan, if ever.

[kenshinx]

Ang dilemma sa RFID ng meron na palagay ko kailangan na din idikit kasi parang kambal na ng kotse mo yan kasi pag di ko idinikit baka nanakaw yan sa iyo tapos gamitin sa kalokohan tapos ay magkatotoo na magkaroon sila ng reader dyan - sabit ka rin

[Altis6453]

My real beef with this is WHY ARE MOTORISTS THE ONE TO SHOULDER THE COST?!? We already paid for registration fees for our cars and even the Road User's Tax.

For me, this is plain and simple double taxation for a "service" that no one really cares for. Sheesh! Enough is enough!!!

[hakkinen]

ang isa pang tanong ko dyan sa RFID. since it is installed inside the windshield, pano yan kung nagpalit ka ng tints, o nagpalagay ng tints? and as i've heard sa news, hindi pa ready ang mga RFID readers, puro RFID stickers pa lang ang available, so parang useless pa yan, if ever.

onga sir e. palpak talaga ang pagpaplano nito. inuna ang kaperahan bago ang common sense. if reports are true about that monitoring tools not being ready, then it defeats the purpose of implementing it but not actually using it. ano yan, pay now -cry later?
kung inihanda ba nman lahat ng infrastructures and actual gadgetries na kailangan bago sila nag kakabit ng mga RFID stickers na yan, eh di sana sa unang araw pa lang ay kapakipakinabang na yang RFID na yan. hindi lang sa atin kung hindi sa LTO na rin. they will have the benefit of seeing & learning about the birthpains it will bring on this new system. ika nga ay, soft launch muna kumbaga. hindi yung, kung kelan lahat na ng vehicles ay RFID tag equipped na at nalaman nilang di pala magwo-work ay saka nila ii-scrap ito.

one thing also that's very unclear to me is in what form will the monitoring tool will be and how it actually works. ito po ba ay isang gun scanner or isang scanner na naka mount sa mga poste at strategic points around the city? or maybe both? sa aking palagay ay sobrang kulang po ang information drive ng gobyerno tungkol dito. how does RFID really works and it's limitations.

haayyy, people can rant and rant about this for ages but it seems there's no sensible solution in the horizon. ayoko na ngang mag-kape, hehe.

[1D4LV]

one thing also that's very unclear to me is in what form will the monitoring tool will be and how it actually works. ito po ba ay isang gun scanner or isang scanner na naka mount sa mga poste at strategic points around the city? or maybe both? sa aking palagay ay sobrang kulang po ang information drive ng gobyerno tungkol dito. how does RFID really works and it's limitations.

based on the design as presented by LTO, mounted scanners ang gagamitin.

but i am still thinking kung pano gagawin pag magpapatints o magpapatanggal ng tints, bibili ulit ng bagong RFID? im sure, di pwedeng tungkabin yung nakakabit na dahil masisira.

[straker]

Are they LTO-bozos cutting away the tint because the tint is interfering with the transmit/recieve function?

Para namang hindi pinag-aralan na naman ito ah. Banat ng banat, wala namang nangyari.

[night_raven]

based on the design as presented by LTO, mounted scanners ang gagamitin.

but i am still thinking kung pano gagawin pag magpapatints o magpapatanggal ng tints, bibili ulit ng bagong RFID? im sure, di pwedeng tungkabin yung nakakabit na dahil masisira.

maybe one would just remove the RFID sticker intact as possible from the old tint and just buy and use the thinnest double-sided tape or emler's glue all from your suking bookstore.

[ghosthunter]

http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/na...ays-recto.html

[SIZE="5"]RFID implementation is illegal, says Recto[/SIZE]
Written by Butch Fernandez / Reporter
Wednesday, 06 January 2010 21:22


THE implementation by the Land Transportation Office (LTO) of the controversial radio-frequency vehicle identification (RFID) system without going through the required legal process, including prior approval by the National Economic and Development Authority (Neda), is “illegal,” former senator Ralph Recto said.

Recto, who had served as Neda director general, said “the implementation of the RFID system is illegal after failing to go through the process prescribed by our existing laws.”

“As it [mandatory installation of RFID] increased fees and charges charged by the LTO in registering new vehicles, it should have undergone Neda evaluation to determine its reasonableness,” Recto said.

He added that the implementation of the RFID system should also have the approval of the Neda board chairma, President Arroyo.

“If this is being implemented despite the escalating uproar from motorists, is it correct to assume that this has the imprimatur of the President? But if she’s not aware of this, who signed on the dotted lines?” Recto asked. “Who is powerful enough to bypass President Arroyo in the approval of the RFID system?”

Recto recalled that the award of the RFID project to Stradcom Corp. and its hasty implementation become even more suspect “as we approach the end of the Arroyo administration and the May 2010 elections.”

The former Neda chief noted that the RFID project proponents even ignored a Malacañang-issued Memorandum Circular 137-2007 which requires all heads of national government agencies, including government-owned and/or -controlled corporations, to seek prior clearance from the Neda Board before imposing new fees or increasing existing ones.

“The memo had been bypassed by the LTO when it proceeded to implement the RFID system at the start of this year, on top of allegations it violated procurement laws because the project was awarded without bidding,” he said.

For his part, LTO chief Arturo Lomibao claimed that the RFID is a cutting-edge technology that uses radio waves to identify vehicles and transmit related information remotely and in real time. The system, he explained, would allow the LTO and other law enforcement agencies to access vehicle information to aid in traffic management, law-enforcement and crime prevention.

According to its proponents, the RFID tag, which is in the form of a sticker, will last for 10 years and will be made available to at least 4.76 million vehicles at P350 a piece.

But Recto argued that the benefits of the system should not justify its haphazard approval and implementation. “The laws that govern these kinds of undertakings are there to protect our citizens from the abuses or corruption that may attend these contracts and projects. Why is the LTO in a hurry to implement the RFID?” he said.

Recto insisted that obtaining the approval of the Neda Board for the increase in fees and charges charged by the LTO had been promulgated “for a reason.”

“Increasing fees and charges, like the effect of the RFID system, entails costs to the public. Not only that, it also affects the cost of doing business in the country. This is why it is important to evaluate how an increase of these fees and charges will affect all stakeholders,” he said.

Once the RFID is fully implemented, over 6 million vehicles will be required to pay higher fees on vehicle registration yearly, and 100,000 to 150,000 new vehicles are registered yearly.

Recto recommended that the government “rethinks its position and suspends the implementation of the RFID system so it can undergo the proper process.”

[oj88]

Lol.. there's no honor among thieves. Sila-sila (government agencies) walang respeto sa isa't-isa.

[_Qwerty_]

kaya nila ni cu cut yung tint.. para sa salamin nakadikit yung RFID tags.. so kahit mag pa tint ka ulit.. mapapatungan lang yung tags.. so forever na yang RFID tags don sa winshield mo.. not unless mabasagan ka nang windshield..

[ghosthunter]

Some car tints have a metallic layer which can block radio signals to and from the RFID tag. This is why the LTO requires the tint be cut-out when installing the RFID tag.