Can we implement something similar to this to a lot of Metro Manila's roads, except that it only targets PUVs?
Virtually impossible considering how politicians are slaves to the indiots, but I can wish, can I?
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So biking is the new 'running'?
Yes, I agree with the idea
No, I oppose the idea.
I have no opinion / undecided
Can we implement something similar to this to a lot of Metro Manila's roads, except that it only targets PUVs?
Virtually impossible considering how politicians are slaves to the indiots, but I can wish, can I?
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So biking is the new 'running'?
You guys are only seeing the negative. Of course there'll be poseurs and pretentious people within. Any 'club' has that. But the big picture is, at least it will be an official venue to ride bikes in without worry. This is Metro Manila anyway, where there's hardly any park or space left to ride the bicycle without ingesting half the smog in the city.
correct and correct.
correct din yung last.
atleast may move na to go green.
para sakin okei yan, hopefully madami ng magsigayahan na cities, mabawasan usok sa manila.
look at it positively, hindi pa nasusubukan, nega na agad,
kung ganyan lahat ng tao sa pinas, hindi talaga aasenso dito.
As long as you are cycling in the middle of the city, you will be ingesting half the smog. It doesn't matter if you are cycling on the middle of Emerald Ave because it is right in the middle of Metro Manila. The only benefit is the cyclists have a much lower chance of getting run-over WHILE at the venue. BUT that does not still solve the problem of the same cyclists who are going to and from the venue. SO, just to be on the safe side, they will drive to the venue in their BIG SUVs with their bikes hanging in the back.
ortigas just needs to eradicate the PUV Expresses plying the route and it will be green city. I live in Ortigas pero mas gusto ko pa lagi nasa the Fort office ko and walk around at night bec. there's no PUV express. the Fort has buses na katulad sa mga italian cities. per Route and designated bus stops. it's our future city.
The fort has no sidewalk pedestrian barriers and the Fort has no electric posts and wires above. sa Ortigas pati sidewalk design kanya-kanya depende kung ano bldg. nasa harap, sa Fort uniform lahat. I usually walk around ang hang-out sa Tully's up to the Forbestown area hanggang dun sa bubble tea and it's so stress-relieving to walk. try nyo, even now nalalakad ko hanggang yun bagong SBC duon sa tabi ng Mini and Hyundai.
sana when Henry Sy takes over ORtigas, gawin nya parang Fort.
To those advocating to eradicate jeepneys altogether, I hope you take into consideration that before this becomes even remotely possible, you have to find an alternative means of transport for people to get from the residential/suburban areas to the main roads all over the metro. Madali sabihin na tanggalin na jeepney kasi malamang naka-kotse kayo, but to the average Juan, it's the only way to get around.
Now BTT, I think this idea is ultimately bound to fail, but it can serve as a catalyst for more people to start biking. The point is to get people to think that the city supports cyclists. I do think that properly enforced bike lanes will be more effective than outright blocking a whole avenue once a week, but it might stir up some interest.
Also, contrary to the tongue-in-cheek posts here, most people don't bring their cars to transport their bike around the city. I don't, and majority of Pasig-based bikers don't, and these are the people who you'd find biking around the Ortigas/Julia Vargas/St. Paul area at night. Besides, most bikers are hobbyists - they bike because they find intrinsic value in biking per se, and not because it's the new poseur way of being 'green'.
Pwede naman mga Kia KC700 or something similar to that. We just need to get rid of those jeepneys who has a big share to the country's pollution.
We can even encourage people to walk more often. Tamad kasi mga pinoy, gusto nila naka-sakay parati. They hardly want to walk, gusto nila sa lahat ng pupuntahan nila may public transportation na available. Else, they wont even bother visiting it.
Hindi naman kasi actually private vehicles ang main contributor sa pollution eh, mostly PUVs. So lessening their amount or proposing a possible alternative for them which is supposedly more "greener" would make a big impact to our overall pollution-issue here.
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They say change starts with us, yes. Pero what's the point of all of this if you're going to the venue where you will promote a greener environment by doing something such as cycling, using your humongous SUVs that leaves a huge amount of carbon footprint than anyone could ever think of.
Last edited by renzo_d10; May 28th, 2012 at 06:25 PM.
Gaano ba kahaba yang emerald ave? Sinong legitimate biker ang magbbike dyan? paikot ikot nalang sa emerald? back & forth? If you're really a biker, hindi ka pupunta dyan sa emerald para magbike, aantukin kalang paikot ikot dyan.
If you're a mountain biker, sa tanay or sta. rosa ka pupunta.
If you're a road biker, malamang sa tanay din, hindi ka naman makapag sprint dyan sa emerald, at kung pwede man, baka mabangga mo pa yung mga tatanga-tangang poser bikers cum environmentalist kuno.
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The whole jeepney issue is actually a microcosm of everything wrong with the country. It highlights the lack of political will to eradicate the half-a-century-old machines, as well as the lack of discipline in many. Whenever I'm on a jeep, and merong taong pinapagalitan pa yung driver pag ayaw siya itabi sa exact spot na gusto niyang babaan (kasi bawal at itatabi nung jeepney driver), sinasabihan ko talaga yung tao na "hindi ka ba marunong maghintay at bumaba sa tamang baabaan?". Nakakainis lang eh. Moreover, it highlights the lack of driving education and road etiquette, with drivers following rules not because it would alleviate inconvenience to others, but because they're scared that the greedy traffic enforcers will flag them down again. The greed of course, is a whole new can of worms in itself.
My point is, hindi ganun kasimpleng sabihing, "tanggalin na lahat ng jeepney na yan". You have to start somewhere. Personally I wish that somewhere is with better traffic enforcement and driver education. Or that jeepneys be government-run so that more control may be exercised. But any concrete action will do.
True. Emerald is too short to be a standalone biking area. Another reason why the movement is ultimately gonna fail. Gusto ata nila gawing parang Folk Arts, recreational biking area. Not very practical in the Ortigas CBD IMO.
Yes, its really better to bike out of town for recreation. I also remember my posts sometime ago (can't remember the thread) where i saw some weekend road bikers on Nasugbu-Calatagan biking but they had their mother ass SUVs backing them up on the road.