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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post


    “European commission standards” oh yeah!


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    bakit di na lang pinagsama yung question 1 and 4 since parehas naman yung questions nila. so for AWD/4x4 vehicles ichecheck both front and rear driving axles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    bakit di na lang pinagsama yung question 1 and 4 since parehas naman yung questions nila. so for AWD/4x4 vehicles ichecheck both front and rear driving axles?
    kasi sa 4x4 may 2wd mode yan, so pwede yung rear lang for speedo check.. kung AWD, need naka angat yung 4 na gulong

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    kasi sa 4x4 may 2wd mode yan, so pwede yung rear lang for speedo check.. kung AWD, need naka angat yung 4 na gulong
    thanks for clarification now i got it yung mga 4x4 pala na switchable to 2wd puede sa rwd/2wd rollers. full time 4x4/4wd and AWD vehicles need lahat ng wheels na nasa rollers.

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    LTO should've granted Manufacturers/Distributors franchises/authority to inspect the brands/models they carry. Too much proprietary ground for generic inspections to cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    LTO should've granted Manufacturers/Distributors franchises/authority to inspect the brands/models they carry. Too much proprietary ground for generic inspections to cover.

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    actually i was thinking about this idea.. why they did just LTO authorized the manufacturer to perform the inspection? say if you have a toyota, bring it to the nearest toyota authorized inspection service then from there, they can perform corrections too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    actually i was thinking about this idea.. why they did just LTO authorized the manufacturer to perform the inspection? say if you have a toyota, bring it to the nearest toyota authorized inspection service then from there, they can perform corrections too..
    Palusot ng DOTR/LTO conflict of interest "daw".

    https://www.car guide.ph/2021/01/the-ltos-motor-vehicle-inspection.html

    "The next plot twist was that any dealership or existing service center applying to be a PMVIC were turned down. These were, according to the LTO, “self-serving.” Instead, they identified operators who had little or no automotive experience. Take note: those with up to a consanguinity of up to the third degree to LTO’s PMVIC committee were also disqualified."

    Which is honestly silly and obvious na gusto kasi nila may kumita na iba.

    Kung ang dealer casa mismo magbigay certification at nagkaproblema yung chineck nila, e di habulin nila yung casa agad diba? Anung self serving dun na palusot ng LTO/DOTR.

    Okay na sana yung dealer-casa na gumawa sa branded ng certifications, ang mamroblema lang yung mga custom or grey market, so need nila sa third party talaga.

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    kung may expert di ba yung auto manufacturer yun? kasi ang government is regulator. so kung meron sila policy na gusto implement, they can relay that to the manufacturer to rectify. for example, in other countries mandatory to have a DRL, so the manufacturer will comply that every vehicle sold should have DRL and during testing / inspection, they know how to replace the offending parts of the vehicle! bakit ka pupunta dun sa testing / inspection center na ang technician baka hindi pa marunong mag drive..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Palusot ng DOTR/LTO conflict of interest "daw".

    https://www.car guide.ph/2021/01/the-ltos-motor-vehicle-inspection.html

    "The next plot twist was that any dealership or existing service center applying to be a PMVIC were turned down. These were, according to the LTO, “self-serving.” Instead, they identified operators who had little or no automotive experience. Take note: those with up to a consanguinity of up to the third degree to LTO’s PMVIC committee were also disqualified."

    Which is honestly silly and obvious na gusto kasi nila may kumita na iba.

    Kung ang dealer casa mismo magbigay certification at nagkaproblema yung chineck nila, e di habulin nila yung casa agad diba? Anung self serving dun na palusot ng LTO/DOTR.

    Okay na sana yung dealer-casa na gumawa sa branded ng certifications, ang mamroblema lang yung mga custom or grey market, so need nila sa third party talaga.
    will sell my car then buy an owner-type-jeep.. it passed the test (with flying colors?)

    it will be hard to implement if vehicles manufactured without any form of standards will pass this high tech inspection..

    first, they get rid of backyard manufactured vehicles

    confiscate all illegal modifications installed on the vehicle.

    start with the basics.. complete lights (head lamp, signal, reverse, park lights) then physical appearance, body and bumper should be complete without deep dents or collision.

    they should implement the mandatory inspection for cars more than 10 years old.. we all know cars now are more durable and can last the minimum 5-year warranty offered by manufacturer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Palusot ng DOTR/LTO conflict of interest "daw".

    https://www.car guide.ph/2021/01/the-ltos-motor-vehicle-inspection.html

    "The next plot twist was that any dealership or existing service center applying to be a PMVIC were turned down. These were, according to the LTO, “self-serving.” Instead, they identified operators who had little or no automotive experience. Take note: those with up to a consanguinity of up to the third degree to LTO’s PMVIC committee were also disqualified."

    Which is honestly silly and obvious na gusto kasi nila may kumita na iba.

    Kung ang dealer casa mismo magbigay certification at nagkaproblema yung chineck nila, e di habulin nila yung casa agad diba? Anung self serving dun na palusot ng LTO/DOTR.

    Okay na sana yung dealer-casa na gumawa sa branded ng certifications, ang mamroblema lang yung mga custom or grey market, so need nila sa third party talaga.
    dapat nga bigyan din ang mga CASA ng certification but what i fear is that the CASA might use this as an excuse to force us to pay for their inflated priced PMS and service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    dapat nga bigyan din ang mga CASA ng certification but what i fear is that the CASA might use this as an excuse to force us to pay for their inflated priced PMS and service.
    My take on that is the government should have allowed us, car owners, to have that choice. Casa or third party MVIS to get a certification.

    Naisip ko is if pinayagan ng government na casa magrelease ng certification para sa registration, baka konti or walang magbukas na third party MVIS given na yung mga private owners, malamang schedule nila via Casa yung check kasi nga mas sigurado sila na alam yung kotse nila at alam yung features ng kotse (ABS, LSD, AWD/4WD etc). I guess a way to mitigate this is may price premium si Casa vs third party MVIS Center para madistribute between the 2 entities yung testing din.

    Pero agree din ako sa previous comment na dapat nga hindi agad required certification for a 3 year old vehicle with less than 60k kms mileage (assuming average is 20k kms per year as "standard")

    So dapat at least 6 years old na kotse mo bago nila require kasi nga marami na may 5 year warranty na kotse dito sa atin.

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    Pa executive checkup si kingkong tugade. Tapos pag meron siyang kahit isang bagsak like mataas cholesterol dapat hinde na siya lumabas ng bahay dahil hinde na siya safe sa society.


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    Sa mga follower ni deakin bakit hinde yata siya nakikita epal dito sa issue? Or meron na ba siya sinabi?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, pero diba as long as yung LTO Office kung san ka magrenew is hindi pa "MVIC required", pwede pa yung dating method?
    Meron pang mga LTO EOs / DOs na hindi pa MVIS, pwede padin PETC. Pero eventually, all of their offices will migrate to MVIS.

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    Anyway, that WTF 655.2 dB, "Side B":

    Here's the PMVIC side behind Land Cruiser's 650+ decibel test
    AutoIndustriya, Five S PMVIC
    January 22, 2021 16:47



    There is actually a group of PMVICs called the Vehicle Inspection Center Association Philippines or VICOAP; no, there is no connection to the popular mayor. In this group, they talk about issues and the implementation of the MVIS by the LTO.

    Specifically, they check on each other to share best practices in this new industry and to discuss potential problems that could affect PMVICs as a whole. And as you can expect, many of the other PMVICs are up in arms over this issue that broke out yesterday.

    The PMVIC in question is the one based in Cabanatuan City: Five S Inspection Center, Incorporated. In the wake of the issue and the prodding of many of the VICOAP members, we got an explanation and a copy of the retest.
    According to our source, the claim is that during the test, there was a "misreading" which they say can happen in certain circumstances. There are no exact specifics as to what happened that affected the reading, but what the PMVIC in question did do was that they retested the Land Cruiser right away.

    In the retest (which was free of charge), the vehicle passed.


    The PMVIC reported that the case was an isolated one and that they had reported the incident to the machine provider. There was concern over the manner in which the supposed failed MVISR was published on social media.

    The test center also forwarded the retest of the Land Cruiser in question which happened soon after the erroneous 650+ decibel result. The retest showed that it had passed at 79.6 decibels.

    Hopefully, the PMVICs can figure out all the bugs with their respective systems to avoid issues such as this one in the future. As the MVIS rolls out in other regions, we expect more problems, bugs, and glitches to emerge as vehicles are checked for roadworthiness.
    And on the issue of the Subaru:

    There is another matter of a Subaru that was tested and had its all-wheel-drive system damaged, and we'll update you on developments on that front.
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    Make sure nila na mayrun proper testing equipment yung mga MVIS testing centers. Hirap sa LTO masyado sila nangarap.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    Make sure nila na mayrun proper testing equipment yung mga MVIS testing centers. Hirap sa LTO masyado sila nangarap.


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    Feeling first world country nga.


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    If the government was really serious in implementing this they should start first inspecting for the first 2 year of implementation.

    Government Vehicles
    Public Utility Vehicles (Jeep, Taxi, Tricycle)
    Commercial Vehicles
    Other For Hire (Grab)

    As these are on the road the most.

    Our government doesn't really care as they want to go and check first private vehicles which most likely have better maintenance.

    In my opinion this inspection should also be done for new private vehicles after 5-6 years, then every 2-3 years.

    Anong sense gawin to yearly, may ibang vehicle na private minsan less than 1-2k kms per year lang ang gamit.

    Also there should be a clear point system. For critical and non-critical parts that pass/fail.

    Pag non-critical pwede 1-2 failed items
    Pag critical 0 failed dapat

    I see this is a form of oppression for the middle class who pay the most in taxes. Isipin mo ikaw need mo dumaan sa ganito pero yung mga bulok na PUV/Govt vehicles tuloy lang sa kalsada.

    At isa pa baka mamaya yung technician na gumagawa ng test walang proper qualification. Ang dami dami vehicle brand/models, imposssible na familiar sila sa lahat.

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    ang palag ako dito eh sa gulong kasi good for 10years yan. Eh ako ilan low mileage cars ko 5,000kms a year. Masyado na advance gulong for city driving hndi yan sasabog.

    yung nangyari kay paul walker kaya sumabog gulong eh nagfeeling schumi so matulin yun.

    gulong ng fd ko year 2013 pa eh ang kapal pa. TApos papalitan na. NO NO NO NO.

    maghahanap ako kung sino pwede magfilte ng Temporary Restrainng Order

    Chaka dapat marunong yugn magchecheck. Kung ako namamahala jan tataasan ko standard sa lahat ng diesel engine kasi tunog lata talaga, masakit sa ilong,. Yung landcruiser totoo pangit ng tunog nyan. Dati ko pa sinasbi yan against landcruiser. Eh deisel ano pa ba inaasahan nyo magtunog gasoline engine?

    Magkaroon sana functionality ang ichecheck. Hindi yun pagininitan yugn gulong na makapal pa.

    Meron ba paraan para tapalan ko ng ibang expiration date gulong pag time ko na magrenew? Mandadaya na lang ako hutaena!!!!

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    minsan yugn mga nagcocomments sa facebook hindi na gumagamit ng senses. May nagpost na 3million car daw yung landcruiser pero bumagsak sa tunog lata test. Way back ko pa inaasar yung landcruiser and wala ako pakialam sa presyo kais im not into status symbol. Hindi ako nangsisino. Talagang maingay tunoy nyan halller. Worht 3million na tunog lata.

    But but but,..... If bagsak si landcruiser dapat bagsak instantly lahat ng jeepney, crosswind at mga truck. The test is mali kasi pangkwakwarta lang.

    Be like kagalingan na na may purpose. Not sosy not jologs but functional man.

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    maganda idea nun taga tpc

    TipidPC.com - Car 11: Tips and FAQ Thread
    gowueld [https://tipidpc] [https://tipidpc] on 22 Jan 21 * 02:27 PM #

    ^

    Aba dapat lang free of charge haha.

    Dapat nga ganito sistema

    Inspection fee 1800php
    Reinspection fee - free sa first na balik, succeeding may bayad na - this is to give chance and encourage the MV owner to take corrective actions

    OR better yet, magkaron ng halaga yun specific items na nag fail ka at yun lang babayaran mo na reinspection

    Masyadong buwaya yung 800 agad sa reinspection, pano kung sound test lang, does it really cost 800 to perform sound test?


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    May mga “owner type” na passed! He he he ano ba ang standard specs ng mga owner type?

    Airbags?
    Seatbelts?

    Passed!


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