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    I'm going to have my 20k pms. My car just turned 3. Do I really need decarbonizing? It's 3850!

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I'm going to have my 20k pms. My car just turned 3. Do I really need decarbonizing? It's 3850!

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    i don't de-carbonize. nunca.
    instead, i slex or nlex to a popular tourist spot. driving down the expressway at decently fast speed, does the de-carbonizing for me. i spend the money i "saved", at a good dining place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I'm going to have my 20k pms. My car just turned 3. Do I really need decarbonizing? It's 3850!

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    No Cath you don't. Like Dr. D said, better to just redline the car next time you're on the highway.

    When I drive other people's cars and rev them up on open roads, ang bango nung amoy when the built up deposits are combusted. I don't get that with my cars kasi laging nabibirit so walang naiipon. 😂

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    I don't redline e. The most I run is 140 kph. Do I still need it then?

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    Why is the 20k PMS for my 2014 Altis so expensive. I don't remember my 2010 Altis 20k PMS costing me this much Total cost is P13,430.86

    I can't redline. I rarely drive outside of MM


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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Why is the 20k PMS for my 2014 Altis so expensive. I don't remember my 2010 Altis 20k PMS costing me this much Total cost is P13,430.86

    I can't redline. I rarely drive outside of MM

    Redline mo ng 1st and 2nd gear cathy

    Bro jut ang gawa ko madalas sa c5 pag may opening, ayun nga redline ng 1st and 2nd gear, then 5th gear (or 4th gear if it's slow or a moderate traffic) na coasting. Di naman masama ito no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I don't redline e. The most I run is 140 kph. Do I still need it then?

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    You can run at 80 kph and still redline your car, just use manual mode. More than the speed, the objective is not to drive it gently so that you burn a lot of fuel and burn out excess deposits.

    13k less the 3.8k decarbonizing is pretty okay.

    My 20k was supposedly just 4.4k (without oil), but reached 10k since I allowed my SA to add all the unnecessary stuff (aircon cleaning is okay though). Di naman ako nagbabayad so tulong ko na sa SA ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    When I drive other people's cars and rev them up on open roads, ang bango nung amoy when the built up deposits are combusted.

    Addict !!! ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Why is the 20k PMS for my 2014 Altis so expensive. I don't remember my 2010 Altis 20k PMS costing me this much Total cost is P13,430.86

    Remove the Injector ... what is that? They're replacing your fuel injector? ... also the misc is way to high at 800++ ... have them list down the details of miscellaneous ... remove decarbonizing ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    Redline mo ng 1st and 2nd gear cathy

    Bro jut ang gawa ko madalas sa c5 pag may opening, ayun nga redline ng 1st and 2nd gear, then 5th gear (or 4th gear if it's slow or a moderate traffic) na coasting. Di naman masama ito no?

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    Malakas sa gas. 😂
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    Addict !!! ...
    Yep, I also like the smell of gasoline. One reason why I entered the petroleum industry. 😂😂😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Remove the Injector ... what is that? They're replacing your fuel injector? ... also the misc is way to high at 800++ ... have them list down the details of miscellaneous ... remove decarbonizing ...
    I also asked for a breakdown of the misc but my SA said she can't break that down anymore.

    This is the reason she said for decarbonizing "Every 20k lang po un ginagawa mam ha, cleaning intake and fuel system mo to prevent black smoke and high fuel consumption "

    My friend made a comment about my SA's text that made me immediately text my SA to exclude the decarbonizing. Hahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    You can run at 80 kph and still redline your car, just use manual mode. More than the speed, the objective is not to drive it gently so that you burn a lot of fuel and burn out excess deposits.

    13k less the 3.8k decarbonizing is pretty okay.

    My 20k was supposedly just 4.4k (without oil), but reached 10k since I allowed my SA to add all the unnecessary stuff (aircon cleaning is okay though). Di naman ako nagbabayad so tulong ko na sa SA ko.

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    One of these days can yoy please drive my car? Hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    One of these days can yoy please drive my car? Hehehe

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    Sure. We can make your car do things it's never done before. 😈

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Sure. We can make your car do things it's never done before. 😈

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    Oh I am so looking forward to that! I also want to improve the looks of my car but first I need to buy a dashcam

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I also asked for a breakdown of the misc but my SA said she can't break that down anymore.

    This is the reason she said for decarbonizing "Every 20k lang po un ginagawa mam ha, cleaning intake and fuel system mo to prevent black smoke and high fuel consumption "

    My friend made a comment about my SA's text that made me immediately text my SA to exclude the decarbonizing. Hahaha.

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    of course they can break it down! she just does not want to.
    it's break-down-able, down to the oil filter washer and the basahans.
    mine show them.
    Last edited by dr. d; April 8th, 2017 at 12:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I'm going to have my 20k pms. My car just turned 3. Do I really need decarbonizing? It's 3850!
    There are several ways of "decarbonizing".

    1) The simplest is to "redline" it as others here have suggested. Doing this produces enough combustion inside the engine to force carbon deposits out. Its fine if the deposits are relatively loose and have not bonded to the engine yet. Its relatively easy though and doesn't cost much. Pick an expressway with no traffic (Good Friday is usually a good time). As soon as you get past the tollgate, go into 1st gear of manual mode, gently accelerate to about 5k rpm and hold it for one minute. Then upshift normally (or go back into D mode if you're driving an automatic) and cruise the rest of the expressway way at the speed limit, and at as constant a speed as possible.

    2) Another way is to either inject alcohol-based chemicals into your fuel line, or steam into your air cleaner. This will loosen carbon deposits and force them out of the exhaust. Supposedly more effective than redlining, but still can't get rid of deposits deeply embedded in the engine. I suspect this is what your casa is charging you 3k for. You're paying for specialized equipment and/or chemicals.

    3) The most radical is to take the cylinder head off and scrape off the carbon deposits. Very invasive and time consuming. This is why most would only have this done during a complete overhaul or headworks.

    For now, I suggest you just do 1) at least once a year, or just before oil changes. Holy Week and Christmas holidays when traffic is light is a good chance to do this.

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    Hi guys! I just hit a flower box on my garage the other day. Rear bumper was torn/damaged. Still working on the insurance if covered. Prep ko lang sarili ko mga sir, where can I buy a 2013 altis black rear bumper other than casa? Any idea how much for the new bumper?

    Btw, thanks sa mga advise ni dr.d at ninjababez on the other thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murduck View Post
    Hi guys! I just hit a flower box on my garage the other day. Rear bumper was torn/damaged. Still working on the insurance if covered. Prep ko lang sarili ko mga sir, where can I buy a 2013 altis black rear bumper other than casa? Any idea how much for the new bumper?

    Btw, thanks sa mga advise ni dr.d at ninjababez on the other thread

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    Why shouldn't it be covered? File it as own damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murduck View Post
    Hi guys! I just hit a flower box on my garage the other day. Rear bumper was torn/damaged. Still working on the insurance if covered. Prep ko lang sarili ko mga sir, where can I buy a 2013 altis black rear bumper other than casa? Any idea how much for the new bumper?

    Btw, thanks sa mga advise ni dr.d at ninjababez on the other thread

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    if the car has comprehensive insurance, let the insurance worry about it.
    of course, you may have to pay for the "upgrade" or whatever insurance word they use.

    as a last resort, you might want to try "tahi". the worker will sew it back, making sure the sutures are not too obvious under the re-paint.

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    #4640
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Why is the 20k PMS for my 2014 Altis so expensive. I don't remember my 2010 Altis 20k PMS costing me this much Total cost is P13,430.86

    I can't redline. I rarely drive outside of MM

    Ganyan kamahal? Am overdue for my 20k pms for my 2.5 yr old altis.

    Sanan yan...

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