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December 10th, 2013 11:27 AM #2171
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December 10th, 2013 11:37 AM #2172thanks vinj for the quick reply...upon checking the toyodiy.com site confirmed that the ZRE and ZZE have the same filter. K&N part number is 33-2360
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December 10th, 2013 08:09 PM #2173Manual says toyota atf ws. But the SA toyota commonwealth doesn't know what type is in our altis. I tried asking and he's giving me a BS na malalaman daw kapag nilift yung kotse. I read somewhere na though its written in our manual na WS. dexron IV lang daw ang nakalagay sa atf ng altis. Here's where my dilemma comes. I quoted for 40k pms. First quote doesn't show me an atf change. I re-quoted again after several weeks on the same CASA. may atf change naman naka lagay. So which is which. Thats why im asking for what type because afaik toyota atf ws doesn't need to be changed every 40k. Besides mahal din ang toyota atf ws, 2,250php/2.5liters.
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December 11th, 2013 10:19 AM #2174
^ I checked online and WS is the fully-synthetic, "lifetime fluid" that toyota has been pushing. Part number is 08886-02305.
LSB was also complaining about this on his Vios also because any self respecting car guy will not feel at ease without changing his ATF during the times he feels it should be changed (or as specified). I myself had a not-so-great experience with a BMW E36 before when i was told by the SA at BMW that there was no need to change the ATF; "lifetime" daw. A few months later, the tranny failed and a post mortem showed that there was some water contamination; something an ATF flush could have saved.
From what i gather, the press release is that WS is not similar in spec to the mineral based T-IV. However, some owners using a Toyota Tundra in the US have switched to another oil and so far reported that their transmissions were running fine. Whether we would try it or not, I will have to experience it firsthand with another car before doing the plunge on mine. One thing to consider though is that given that the Gen 10 Altis is a 4-speed and is using the ZZ engine similar to the 9th Gen Corolla, i'm thinking that the T-IV transmission fluid is still compatible.
If you confirm though that the WS is what's used in your car, and your car is driven normally with no towing or carrying of heavy loads, and it doesn't ford deep floods, then you can consider extending your ATF drain interval (i.e. instead of draining at 40,000kms, change it at 80,000kms). Then you change using the Toyota WS. Even if you pay more, at least the intervals are longer.
Here are some tidbits that can probably help since it shows the transmission codes and you can try to match it up with the one on your Altis: (from G6 Automobile - Products & Equipments)
TOYOTA AUTO FLUID TYPE T-IV
Category: Transmission Fluid.
Type: Partially-Synthetic Part No: 08886-01705
Packing: steel can, 4L
Genuine automatic transmission fluid specially formulated by Toyota Corporation for vehicles with slip control transmissions. Since July 1999 replaced ATF D-II in most models, previously using Dexron-II.
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Transmission Codes:
A-series: A243F*, A245E*, A246E*, A247E*, A248E*/F, A340E*/H, A341E/H, A342E, A343E/F**, A541E, A650E, A750F***, A860E, A861E, A42DE, A44DE*, A44DF*, A4B-D, A4Q-D1, A4R, A4R-D1, A45DE*, A47DE.
U-series: U140E/F, U150E, U151E/F, U240E, U241E, U340E/F, U341E/F, U441E/F.
P-series: P110, P111
Q-series: Q210
* For transmission types A243F, A245E, A246E, 247E, A248E, A340E, A44DF, A44DE, A45DE built before July 1999, use Toyota ATF D-II
** For transmission types A343E/F, built before July 2000, use Toyota ATF D-II
*** For transmission type A750F, built after August 2003, use Toyota ATF WS.
TOYOTA AUTO FLUID WS
Category: Transmission Fluid.
Part No: 08886-02305
Packing: steel can, 4L
Genuine automatic transmission fluid specially formulated by Toyota Corporation for vehicles with slip control transmissions which can lock up at low and medium speed. These are mostly 6-speed, sometimes 5-speed automatic transmissions and automatic transaxels widely used by Toyota in large sedans, SUVs and hybrid models since 2005.
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Transmission Codes:
A750H/F*, A760E, A761E/H, A960E, U151E/F**, U250E, U341E, U660E/F, P112, P310, Q211, L110
* For transmission type A750F mounted on Land Cruiser-100 built before August 2003, use Toyota ATF Type T-IV.
** For transmission types U151E/F built before August 2003, use Toyota ATF Type T-IV.
Complete Model Application:
Lexus LS: UVF45, UVF46, USF40, USF41, USF45, USF46.
Lexus GS: GWS191, URS190, UZS190, GRS191, GRS196
Lexus HS: ANF10
Lexus IS: GSE20, GSE21, GSE25, USE20
Lexus RX: GYL15W, GYL16W, GGL10W, GGL15W, GGL16W
Lexus SC: UZZ40
Alphard: GGH20W, GGH25W
Blade: GRE156H
Camry: ACV40, ACV45
Celsior: UCF30, UCF31 (2003.5--)
Century: GZG50 (2005.1--)
Crown: GWS204, GRS204, GRS202, GRS200, GRS203, GRS201, GRS184, GRS182, GRS180, GRS183, GRS181
Crown Majesta: UZS186, UZS187, URS206, UZS207
Estima: GSR55W, AHR20W
Harrier: GSU30W, GSU31W, GSU35W, GSU36W, MHU38W
Hilux Surf: GRN215W
Kluger: MHU28W
Land Cruiser-100 (2003.8--): UZJ100W, HDJ101K
Land Cruiser-200: UZJ200W, URJ202W
Land Cruiser Prado: GRJ120W, GRJ121W
Mark X: GRX120, GRX121, GRX125
Mark X Zio: GGA10
Prius: NHW30, ZVW30
Ractis: NCP105
Vanguard: GSA33W
Wellfire: GGH20W, GGH25W
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December 12th, 2013 01:08 PM #2175
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December 18th, 2013 03:24 PM #2176Hi Toyota fans,
I'm a newbie here and I just have a question. My Altis 10.5 Gen is just 2 days ago. I observed that it is much noisier compared to my City. When I was in Cavitex this morning, I was beside 2 jeepneys, I thought that one of the windows was open, but upon checking, they are tightly closed.
How can we improve the insulation of the new Altis to reduce the noise from outside?
Thanks!
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December 18th, 2013 10:07 PM #2177
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December 19th, 2013 01:22 AM #2179
If it's not paid in up-front cash, I will tell you to be frugal. That's all there is to it.
Will there be a significant price difference? I believe the new one will be more expensive marginally -- just to keep up with inflation.
Will the downpayment schemes also be flexible as low as 150k+ perhaps? If you need to DP that big, I simply hope the payback period is short. If it isn't, drop down a lower-class -- the Vios is still a great car.
Is it a bad idea to buy the 10th generation at this point in time, where the next gen could be just 2-3 months away? Jeff Bezos always says that looking at a problem at another perspective is an additional 80 IQ points. This depends on people's perception but you can use this information (the phasing out) as additional leverage for better discounts on purchase whether it be firsthand or secondhand purchase.
Is it possible for the next generation Altis to be released before the year ends (December)? I won't rule that out but it remains highly improbable. Usually sa next fiscal year na nila yan i-rerelease.. it's less of a headache when self-auditing yourself as a business if you divide revenues on a per-vehicle class basis.
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December 19th, 2013 01:27 AM #2180
Hop on to another Altis and notice if the NVH levels are the same. If it isn't, then you might have a "hole" where outside noise comes through the cabin.
Unfortunately, insulation isn't just a one-trick pony and it's expensive as an endeavor. Best to simply "go up a class" if you're seeking better NVH levels because NVH control starts at the very chassis and how the vehicle is constructed.
A sound deadener's primary purpose isn't to deaden sound really. It's to lower a panel's resonant frequency (for those into car audio) so it rattles at a lower and less offensive frequency. The magic in NVH insulation is that you need to create a "bubble" to isolate the cabin from the outside world. MLV deadeners may marginally help by plugging in "holes" and absorbing a certain amount of noise, but don't expect drastic changes. But in the event you really want to go this route, you deaden three key areas: the firewall, the floor, and the tire walls.
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