plan to buy inova gas or diesel ??

[genowel]

plan ko po mag buy ng inova pero nalilito ako kung gas o diesel eto po sana yung condition:

Engine durability. I want my inova to stay with me for the next 10 years.
Maintenance cost. I want something that will cost less in terms of maintenance over a span of 10 years.
then yung usage mosly short distance city drive tapos paminsan minsan province drive aun po


thank you po...

[renzo_d10]

Yung D4D medyo alanganin ako sa very long-term use. Pwede kasi bumigay yung injectors niya et.al pagpatak ng 100k kms. It's common. Kahit sa mga older millenium Starexes. It happens. Yun nga lang, if that occurs, medyo mahal. But quite attainable. Yun lang naman yung medyo isipin as a long-term issue. Unless you don't really put effort into maintaining your car.

Maintenance cost, PMS-wise, I have a feeling na mas mura yung Gas. Ganun kasi talaga. CRDi vs. Theta II, mas mura theta. And mahal din maintenance ng DiD ( Mitsu ) so I guess, it applies to D4D also. However, since Toyota naman siya I guess it's cheaper than the rest of the cars who sports a modern diesel engine.

Fuel prices, obvious. D4D has an advantage.
Torque/Acceleration, mas advantageous din yung D4D.

So ayun. Hindi naman kasi ito katulad ng Crosswind that could last hundreds and hundreds of thousand of kilometers without breaking down.

[spyghost]

i got a gas manual for me - personal/family use

if i could turn back time i'd get a gas automatic instead of a gas manual though

[userfriendly]

The price difference between the gas and diesel version is only about 55,000. Dont know what deals or discounts toyota is giving but at that price, I will always go with the diesel. You should be able to get back the additional cost pretty fast from fuel savings alone. When my kids used my Avanza to as school service, a full tank of gas will last them around 1 week. With the Innova, a full tank of diesel will last them at least one and a half weeks. And they have longer route now that my youngest is going to preschool and the kids go to tutor after school.

Maintenance cost for my innova was 1576 pesos. Mineral oil, free labour for 5000 km service. Back in 2007, my avanza's 5000 km service cost me about a 1000. So hindi malaki ang difference.

[vinj]

I'd still go with a diesel engine. It may cost more but the fuel is cheaper, it's more efficient and the resale value is better later on (which pretty much makes up for the brand new cost between the gas and diesel Innova).

In the ten years you plan to use it, and given it will be a low mileage vehicle, i'd estimate the injection pump needing servicing at least once (or maybe not at all) as long as you follow proper maintenance procedures. Kung magka problem needing service outside the warranty, how much will it cost at a good diesel shop? Around 30K+ to 40K tops the last time i checked when one of our Innovas had the stalling problem (that was a good three years ago). We still have an 05 Innova diesel a/t being used by one of my relatives (everyday, for business and family use) and it has logged well over 100,000kms. It still has not visited the calibration shop although i suspect it may soon need some servicing (nozzle cleaning, etc). due to a more sluggish off-the-line performance it has been showing lately and there's a initial puff of black smoke when the engine is gunned under load. I also sold my 2005 Innova J diesel to my friend back in 2008 and up to now, it has not shown any sign to need serious servicing/repairs (mileage is at around 80,000kms right now).

[dr. d]

i've been enjoying my D4d for six years now. and it's great! i'm getting at least 11 km/liter city driving, no sweat. that's at least 250 km per 1000 kesos fuel.

[shibby75]

I wnet for gas since my innova will stay with me for more than 10yrs. Peace of mind lang, yoko ng mag isip kung baka matyempuhan ako ng d4d problem.

And for any diesel engine. Rebuilds and parts are always double the price of a gas engine.

[GTi]

There are three 2005 Innova J D4D's used as service vehicles at our factory. Up and running parin ngayon. Considering the way they use cars, and the fact that the three are still alive today, the reliability should be pretty good.

[Retz]

There are three 2005 Innova J D4D's used as service vehicles at our factory. Up and running parin ngayon. Considering the way they use cars, and the fact that the three are still alive today, the reliability should be pretty good.

over 100K odometer reading already? Maybe perhaps you get the latter part of the 2005 model which I guess Toyota already made some adjustments.

[GTi]

Haha~ Sobrang bihira kasi ako pumupunta dun, at hindi ko pinapansin yung mga yan. Ang alam ko lang lagi yan ginagamit for running factory business errands. So far I've heard no complaints about them naman, and they wouldn't be here still. Medyo matagal na nga ito dun eh. They had Revo's there before it and Tamaraw FX's before the Revo's. Even those didn't last that long. I'm inclined to believe that they liked the ride quality, good gas mileage and performance.

[myk384]

I wnet for gas since my innova will stay with me for more than 10yrs. Peace of mind lang, yoko ng mag isip kung baka matyempuhan ako ng d4d problem.

And for any diesel engine. Rebuilds and parts are always double the price of a gas engine.

Actually Innova namin 2008 model gas with 79k miles and still good

[Retz]

generally, pag gagamitin mo ng matagalan let say 5years plus. mas economical to buy a diesel (huwag lang masiraan due to clog or dirty diesel). but if you plan to use it for let say 3-5 years and papalitan mo na, i would recommend gas. ung initial cost savings mo sa gas, pambayad sa gasoline fuel.

[dr. d]

one factor that might tip the balance: the cost of inconvenience and worry, caused by tirik sa baha. diesels survive flooded streets much better than gas engines.
and i did some computation in fuel expenses. assuming 1000 km/month, it comes to 33,000 kesos a year in more money, to drive gas innova versus diesel innova.

[drich_enriquez]

May question ako. Hinuhuli din ba yan ng ASBU ang D4D? Balita ko pati CRDi nanghuhuli na sila. Kadalasan kasi mga old spec diesel engine na umuusok ang hinuhuli nila. Mga pulis maiinit sa mata nila ang sasakyang diesel.

[Retz]

May question ako. Hinuhuli din ba yan ng ASBU ang D4D? Balita ko pati CRDi nanghuhuli na sila. Kadalasan kasi mga old spec diesel engine na umuusok ang hinuhuli nila. Mga pulis maiinit sa mata nila ang sasakyang diesel.

Sa edsa may nakita ako nanghuhuli smoke belching.

[vinj]

May question ako. Hinuhuli din ba yan ng ASBU ang D4D? Balita ko pati CRDi nanghuhuli na sila. Kadalasan kasi mga old spec diesel engine na umuusok ang hinuhuli nila. Mga pulis maiinit sa mata nila ang sasakyang diesel.

Innova - Nope
Crosswind and Adventure = Yes