WTBUY 2.5 D4D or 2.7 VVTi fortuner ? HELP ;)

[kenzie]

which of the 2 would you get Gas 2.7 vvti or Diesel 2.5 D4D Fortuner? thanks again for any input ... good day to all

[tidus1203]

2.7 VVTi for me. I don't have confidence with Toyota's Driven4-Death more popularly known as D4-D...

[s_quilicot]

2.7 VVTi for me. I don't have confidence with Toyota's Driven4-Death more popularly known as D4-D...

+! on this.

mas smooth ang 2.7 gas version. less problem pa.

[OTEP]

Cheaper cost, more power, smoother, and with the smaller price gap between gas and diesel, I'd get the 2.7VVTi.

I seriously doubt you'd be doing any serious mud bogging in a 4x2 SUV so the inherent advantages of the diesel are nil.

[s_quilicot]

Cheaper cost, more power, smoother, and with the smaller price gap between gas and diesel, I'd get the 2.7VVTi.

I seriously doubt you'd be doing any serious mud bogging in a 4x2 SUV so the inherent advantages of the diesel are nil.

hmm not that good ride + weak noisy less smoother engine = less comfort IMO

[tidus1203]

Cheaper cost, more power, smoother, and with the smaller price gap between gas and diesel, I'd get the 2.7VVTi.

I seriously doubt you'd be doing any serious mud bogging in a 4x2 SUV so the inherent advantages of the diesel are nil.

Although recently lumalaki nanaman agwat ng gas and diesel. Yung gas weekly inaakyat pero sa diesel may price war mga stations. Diesel dun samin kanina P23 na lang...

[Gerbo]

I think buying a 102 hp 2.5 D4D Fortuner is just like having a 84 hp Sportivo in terms of power.

[kenzie]

I think buying a 102 hp 2.5 D4D Fortuner is just like having a 84 hp Sportivo in terms of power.

I'm really leaning towards the D4D but with all the horror stories i've read here its making me think twice... but on the other hand FC of the gas variant is also a very big issue for me coz it's gonna be used as a daily driver ( marikina- makati - marikina)... whew dont know what to do really

more inputs please peeps , i appreciate your time ... thanks

[Bradp]

I have a 2.5month old 2.5 D4D - no complaints so far - love my Baby F. Engine is quiet - you won't know it's diesel, smooth ride, powerful and smooth engine, fuel-efficient, good ground clearance (no fear during floods). My fuel efficiency is much better than my friend's same-age Fort VVTI (I get 9+ city driving heavy traffic on a daily basis, he gets only 6 to 7+).

[kenzie]

I have a 2.5month old 2.5 D4D - no complaints so far - love my Baby F. Engine is quiet - you won't know it's diesel, smooth ride, powerful and smooth engine, fuel-efficient, good ground clearance (no fear during floods). My fuel efficiency is much better than my friend's same-age Fort VVTI (I get 9+ city driving heavy traffic on a daily basis, he gets only 6 to 7+).

thanks for your time Bradp .... do u also post at the fortuner club?

[legend2destiny]

I have the 2.7Gas variant. Im satisfied with it since FC is not really my concern but more of maintenance. I always prefer gas engine since its cheaper to maintain plus it has more HP than the Diesel other than you plan to get the 4WD.

Either variant it still a Fort & guess what it will always be a mouthwatering vehicle to own hehe

[number001]

One of the reason to go for the diesel 4x2 is for better fuel efficiency and to some degree, the fluctuating price difference (/liter) bet. petrol and diesel. Also, if you consume about 10,000 + kms per year, then the diesel is a worthy investment. If not, save the Php 60,000 price difference and get the gas variant. I'm sure you have heard of an adage or cliche about having to spend more to save more. No point of getting a diesel if one cannot benefit from any savings that it promises.

The issue of power. My friend finds his 2005 2.5 D-4D underpowered when going to Baguio. Some other people who post here and in other forums either it find underpowered or the power is just right. There is no clear cut answer so try to discern carefully through the mounds.

Defective D-4Ds. Choking? Black smoke? These are very serious issues affecting potential buyers who researched and done their homework by browsing through forums and etc. Again some people post in different forums that their units are so trouble free while some are encountering the abovementioned symptoms of the problems. Personally, I haven't seen a choking D-4D, but I have seen more than a handful of black smoke belching D-4Ds (Innovas and Fortuners, and some with no plates yet). Again, here is no clear cut answer here. It is about discerning through all the posts and setting priorities.

Disclaimer: I have the gas variant. I got it over the diesel bec. of the many unresolved issues surrounding the D-4D. Warranty is good for three years, but after that, what will happen next? In those three years, if one is very unlucky enough to get a "fluke" of a unit, then personal time would have to be spent in addressing the "problem" with the dealer, and not to mention, being unable to enjoy your Fort.

[scharnhorst]

Defective D-4Ds. Choking? Black smoke? These are very serious issues affecting potential buyers who researched and done their homework by browsing through forums and etc. Again some people post in different forums that their units are so trouble free while some are encountering the abovementioned symptoms of the problems. Personally, I haven't seen a choking D-4D, but I have seen more than a handful of black smoke belching D-4Ds (Innovas and Fortuners, and some with no plates yet). Again, here is no clear cut answer here. It is about discerning through all the posts and setting priorities.

I was following a smoke-belching 2009 fortuner (the facelifted one) earlier. I wonder what's causing the fuel delivery to be too rich.

[Memphis Raines]

For me its the 2.7 Vvti
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[my4tuner]

Another thing to consider, with the gas rising up as compared to the diesel. And diesel is plunging at P23 - P25 and, possibly might go much, much lower on some areas. Then do the math.
Personally I own 4x2 G D4D since 2006 and, have not encountered any problem. I am still enjoying the ride to this date and recently, it just turned 3yrs old. On the other hand both are capable 4x2 suv and it is still the beloved Fortuner

[jeDi13]

But the problem on the equation, diesel price is not constant. They vary every now and then. The price may be very low compared to the petrol now. But how about tomorrow? It's hard to tell. Toss coin nalang kaya.

Pero na-mention na rin na mas maraming problems ang na-eencounter sa diesel variants compared sa gas variants, mas ok sigurong mag-gas variant ka nalang. Mahirap din makabili ng "peace of mind".

[alexdale]

But the problem on the equation, diesel price is not constant. They vary every now and then. The price may be very low compared to the petrol now. But how about tomorrow? It's hard to tell. Toss coin nalang kaya.

Pero na-mention na rin na mas maraming problems ang na-eencounter sa diesel variants compared sa gas variants, mas ok sigurong mag-gas variant ka nalang. Mahirap din makabili ng "peace of mind".

exactly. also about to buy the gas variant.

[Bradp]

Hi, Kenzie. I'm also a member of the Fortuner club. It is best to hear from Fort owners themselves - only they can tell you about actual experiences. Four months ago, I also had a hard time deciding on which Fortuner unit to get and the horror stories I have heard about the diesel variants. However, I know of a lot of D4D Fort owners - some had their units way back 2005 and had none of the horrific experiences posted in some forums - the problems were but normal. Personally, since I own one, I disagree with a lot of Fort critics - I love my Fort and am very happy with it and its performance so far. I would also like to add that the 2.5D4D is not underpowered at all based on personal experience.

[my4tuner]

Hi, Kenzie. I'm also a member of the Fortuner club. It is best to hear from Fort owners themselves - only they can tell you about actual experiences. Four months ago, I also had a hard time deciding on which Fortuner unit to get and the horror stories I have heard about the diesel variants. However, I know of a lot of D4D Fort owners - some had their units way back 2005 and had none of the horrific experiences posted in some forums - the problems were but normal. Personally, since I own one, I disagree with a lot of Fort critics - I love my Fort and am very happy with it and its performance so far. I would also like to add that the 2.5D4D is not underpowered at all based on personal experience.

I agree with this. The best way, is to know it from the Legitimate Fort owners and, not just some people who read it from somewhere. If I may suggest, try checking out www.fortunerclub.net.ph You may find wealth of information discussed by fellow Fort owners.

As for the price of diesel in the market. Yes, it is now much lower than gas price and based on the international market, it might dip in for the next couple of months. Will just see how the ball rolls. Nevertheless, I am still in for a diesel variant as I get the best fuel consumption and practicality .

Well as for the peace of mind, I had a worry free 4x2 Fort diesel variant ownership since 2006 and, to date have not encountered any problem. I am still liking its utility and fuel efficiency. Remember, its always nice to be cautious but, dont believe all on what you read yet, as this will only cloud your thoughts and limit your choices. Try probing and ask questions to the "real" Fort owners. Then go on what your heart desires and in the end, its only you, who will know what fits you best. -just my 2 cents worth-

[kenzie]

my4tuner... i Understand where you're coming from, i'm also a member of the fort club (even though i don't own one yet ) ... I just wanted to ask people from tsikot their thoughts about the fort as well... thanks for your time and input though its very much appreciated...