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  1. Join Date
    Dec 2010
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    Profile:I'm targetting 2011 to buy, but not in a hurry, at all.Brandnew. Budget 850K, Down ni daddy, ill pay for the 5 year installmentsIt'll be my personal vehicle. Daily sa office, Sta mesa - UP Diliman Route. Weekends sa galaan, within MMLA or nearby provinces. The catch is, we dont have a family car yet, and no plans for the next 2 years, so a 7-seater ++ is preferred. We are particular about the after-purchase expenses such as FC, maintenance cost, etc. As a noob, I'm not looking into reselling it, but my dad is particular with resale value. Prospects:avanza - my dad's preference. 1.5L. he like that its smaller. i just thought the 1.5L is with the same price of the innova j. innova - my preference. i think its the better vehicle. i think ill choose the 2.5J D4d .I heard the D4D is alredy solved, and that the higher cost of dsl is a myth, and that the tip is just to get quality Diesel.alternatives are accepted.what say you sa:FCdsl maintenance costd4d issue

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    innova na. kahit j pede na yan. upgrade ka na lang ng power windows after some time. kahit sa front lang. then wiper for the rear na din. ipon ule then buy mags kahit ung pang E na mags. pede na. :D

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    the D4D problem is both solved and isn't solved, depending on who you ask. but i think majority feel that the problem appears in only a minority of D4D's.
    my innova D4D gives me 300 km for every 1000 kesos of fuel. i can't think of any other gasoline-engined vehicle of similar capacity as the innova, that can give that much distance.
    i don't think anyone will say the avanza's passenger space is even remotely comparable to the innova's.
    diesel prices in the philippines appears to be politically favored. but regular maintenance of diesel engines, in general, costs more than gas engines' . diesel engine change oil costs 1,500 (i think). gas engine oil change costs 1000 (i think). and diesel engine parts are usually more expensive than gas engines'. but hey! you're not going to change parts every week, are you?
    but the real advantage of diesel engines becomes apparent during floods.
    if you buy a vehicle to use it and not to enter it in a beauty contest, the J variant is ok.

  4. Join Date
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    #4
    definitely not for papogian. "if you buy a vehicle to use it and not to enter it in a beauty contest, the J variant is ok" sa "300 km for every 1000 pesos" na yan ilan ang ang KM per liter mo nyan?you got it correct, nde nm npalit parts madalas,,, and what's with floods and dsl? sorry, m not familiar.

  5. Join Date
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    #5
    Mas ok kung ang AVANZA and INNOVA ay nasa harapan nyo pareho then decide...

    kapatid ko always sinasabi AVANZA kukunin namin wag daw INNOVA... nong nandoon na kami sa toyota nag iba ang pinili nya naging INNOVA.

    Kung gusto nyo naman mag upgrade in the future... it is better to pick the E variant. at G kung kaya ng budget.

    pasama mo ang whole family sa toyota then decide...

  6. Join Date
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    we have the same experience before kaso choosing between Avanza G and Innova J VVT-i. my ate keep on choosing Avanza kasi bagay at cute daw kasi ako lang at siya ang gagamit. choice ko naman Innova J kasi pang J lang ang budget pero nung nakita ko sa personal yung innova esp sa 2nd row legroom innova na talaga naging choice ko. sabi pa ng ate ko sa mom ko "ah basta avanza na iniiba niyo pa decision ng family eh" pero she was surprised na Innova yung dineliver, ayun natuwa at bagay ba bagay daw sa family namin. upgrade ka na lang ng power window, mags etc. Hindi kami nagsisi sa choice namin

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    how can i convince dady kaya.. FC ba is better? mas okay ba ang Dsl na 2.5?

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    With all due respect to any Avanza owner out there, the Innova J is just sooooo much better than the Avanza in every way. If you have the budget go for the Innova and you will not regret it.

    PS: I inspected a showroom display of an 2012 Avanza.

  9. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    With all due respect to any Avanza owner out there, the Innova J is just sooooo much better than the Avanza in every way. If you have the budget go for the Innova and you will not regret it.

    PS: I inspected a showroom display of an 2012 Avanza.

    Agree here,- whether it is a gas or a diesel variant.....

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    #10
    Quote Originally Posted by bubuchokoy View Post
    Mga boss, talas bang Hindi nagpapa test drive ang Toyota. I am still torn between innova and avanza e...
    If the car is newly launched, usually walang test drive unit.

    I'd get the Innova hands down just as well.

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    After driving diesel it's hard to go back to gas.

    workaround ideas to discuss among friends: Diesel engines: some taboos still around it

    One of the taboos about diesels is related to the maintenance: it's actually not so harder as most people think. Due to the absence of an electric ignition system, they're even simpler to work on. And currently with all that electronic engine management systems all-around, their fuel injection hardwares are getting closer to the a gasoline/E85/CNG/LPG setup, easing the first contacts for mechanics unexperienced on the diesel field.
    As far as PMS goes, nowadays it's actually easier than it is in a comparable gasser. Also, the interval between oil changes and other PMS procedures is extended in comparison with a gasser...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    If the car is newly launched, usually walang test drive unit.

    I'd get the Innova hands down just as well.
    Sa Toyota Pasong Tamo meron sila unit na pang test drive.. Automatic Transmission lang ang test drive unit. Doon ako nakapag test drive at doon din ako kukuha ng unit.

    Test unit is 1.5E Toyota Avanza.

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    #13
    tpre, baka 1.3E ibig mong sabihin..alang 1.5E na aavanza, 1.5G lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amir1223 View Post
    tpre, baka 1.3E ibig mong sabihin..alang 1.5E na aavanza, 1.5G lang.
    Sorry... oo nga 1.3e lang yung na test drive ko... naalala ko walang nga pala fog lamp sa ibaba yung test drive unit... so hindi yun G.
    Yung 1.5g nila Dark Steel Mica yun nga pala ang nasa loob ng showroom... ganda ganda ng kulay :-)

  15. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by number001 View Post
    With all due respect to any Avanza owner out there, the Innova J is just sooooo much better than the Avanza in every way. If you have the budget go for the Innova and you will not regret it.

    PS: I inspected a showroom display of an 2012 Avanza.

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    Depende pa rin sa gagamit... Kung isang tao lang ang sasakay pang araw-araw parang napaka laki naman ng Innova...Actually. pinag isipan ko rin yan kung innova or avanza ang bibilhin ko para sa anak ko for her college daily drive this coming school year....

    Sabi ko sa anak ko innova na lang para mahiram ko o magamit ng family pa minsan ninsan... katuwiran niya sa akin... ayaw daw niya mag dala ng ganoong kalaking sasakyan at siya lang naman daw sasakay dun palagi... mahirap pa daw mag park dahil malaki..

    For family use... I agree best go for innova ... pero kung dalaga at binata gagamit o single user go for avanza....

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innova j dsl or avanza 1.5