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    hi, i am reading for quite sometime now re: timeless and undying argument of Diesel over Gas engine. It is quite informative for me. I am a Vios user with a 1.5 engine. And to be honest, I really don't feel the Gas price too expensive since majority of my travels are only this:

    - home to mall, weekend only (usually 4km back to back)
    - home to my in laws, once a month (50 km back to back with P500 unleaded, sobra p)
    - out of town trip once in 3 months with P500 unleaded (calamba - tagaytay, calamba to san pablo, etc.)

    now, I sold my vios and i'm planning to buy a second hand innova since we are already a family of 5:

    2012 / V variant
    2.0 Gas Engine
    51T mileage for 5 yrs.
    500k last price from seller (from asking price of 540k and original price way back 2012 is P1,1800,000.00)

    fist question:

    -is it ok for me to migrate to a bigger unit with the same type of engine considering me being a weekend user only?
    -is the second price of 500k fair enough? but will still try to negotiate it to 490k at least for detailing, tune up, etc.

    really hope you're inputs re: this boring inquiry haha!

    thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by holdenme View Post
    hi, i am reading for quite sometime now re: timeless and undying argument of Diesel over Gas engine. It is quite informative for me. I am a Vios user with a 1.5 engine. And to be honest, I really don't feel the Gas price too expensive since majority of my travels are only this:

    - home to mall, weekend only (usually 4km back to back)
    - home to my in laws, once a month (50 km back to back with P500 unleaded, sobra p)
    - out of town trip once in 3 months with P500 unleaded (calamba - tagaytay, calamba to san pablo, etc.)

    now, I sold my vios and i'm planning to buy a second hand innova since we are already a family of 5:

    2012 / V variant
    2.0 Gas Engine
    51T mileage for 5 yrs.
    500k last price from seller (from asking price of 540k and original price way back 2012 is P1,1800,000.00)

    fist question:

    -is it ok for me to migrate to a bigger unit with the same type of engine considering me being a weekend user only?
    -is the second price of 500k fair enough? but will still try to negotiate it to 490k at least for detailing, tune up, etc.

    really hope you're inputs re: this boring inquiry haha!

    thanks in advance!

    -is it ok for me to migrate to a bigger unit with the same type of engine considering me being a weekend user only?

    Yes of course. Family of 5 medyo masikip na sa Vios kaya upgrade yung Innova from the Vios. Not to mention mas "equipped" for manila roads.

    Innova V pala yung prospect unit kaya baka yung 5th passenger mo ayaw umupo sa 3rd row.

    -is the second price of 500k fair enough? but will still try to negotiate it to 490k at least for detailing, tune up, etc.

    Fair na yung 500k. Prepare another 50k for things that are needed to be replaced and detailing.

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    Since gas Innovas sell for so much cheaper than similarly-aged diesel Innovas in the secondhand market, they can actually be quite a bargain. As long as the car is in good condition, I don't see anything wrong with getting a secondhand gas Innova. Someone else already took the depreciation hit for you so you're getting it cheap. [emoji106]

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    yes its a good buy if your mileage is less than 10,000km per year

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    Last edited by StockEngine; February 5th, 2018 at 02:32 PM.

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    Thanks po s reply! Mejo di din kc ako familiar s maintenance ng diesel! And bka mamiss ko arangkada ng vvti engine!

    How about year model of a vehicle? How do we take this into consideration?

    I recently saw this online ( rush sale )

    2010 Innova G
    Gas / AT
    40T plus mileage
    P435k only

    Is it a sweeter deal to the previous 2012 V variant?

    Thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by holdenme View Post
    Thanks po s reply! Mejo di din kc ako familiar s maintenance ng diesel! And bka mamiss ko arangkada ng vvti engine!

    How about year model of a vehicle? How do we take this into consideration?

    I recently saw this online ( rush sale )

    2010 Innova G
    Gas / AT
    40T plus mileage
    P435k only

    Is it a sweeter deal to the previous 2012 V variant?

    Thanks again!
    Iba na arangkada ng diesel engine.

    Magugulat ka bro..😎😎😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by holdenme View Post
    Thanks po s reply! Mejo di din kc ako familiar s maintenance ng diesel! And bka mamiss ko arangkada ng vvti engine!

    How about year model of a vehicle? How do we take this into consideration?

    I recently saw this online ( rush sale )

    2010 Innova G
    Gas / AT
    40T plus mileage
    P435k only

    Is it a sweeter deal to the previous 2012 V variant?

    Thanks again!
    i wouldn't decide yet, until i see the actual vehicle in the metal, and scrutinize her, including a test drive.
    bring a dis-interested person with you, because you will probably be too excited, as to think clearly.
    heh heh.

    btw, the V models have captain's chairs in the second row. they will seat only two. your fifth passenger will have to sit in the more cramped and tagtagged third row.

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    Thanks again for the reply. Yes we are fully aware of the 2nd row captain seat. My wife don’t mind it.

    Another question:

    If I am used to 1.5 engine fuel efficient according to my usage, maninibago b ako s 2.0 engine? With the same type of travel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post

    btw, the V models have captain's chairs in the second row. they will seat only two. your fifth passenger will have to sit in the more cramped and tagtagged third row.
    That's my only beef vs. the V variant that I have....

    Otherwise,- comfy seats for 4...

    2.0L of Innova gas AT,- put it at 7Km/L city; 10Km/L Hiway...

    Diesel is much more fuel efficient - like 12Km/L Hiway....

    Last edited by CVT; February 6th, 2018 at 07:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holdenme View Post
    Thanks again for the reply. Yes we are fully aware of the 2nd row captain seat. My wife don’t mind it.

    Another question:

    If I am used to 1.5 engine fuel efficient according to my usage, maninibago b ako s 2.0 engine? With the same type of travel?
    coming from the cramped vios, i am confident you will be too busy enjoying the rest of the innova, you won't be complaining too much about the 2.0 gas engine's "seeming sluggishness", whatever that means. but as cvt above says, be prepared for the increased gas expenses.
    my relative has a 2.0, and isn't comlaining
    users seem to prefer the diesel innova. ang daming nagbebenta ng diesel innova. is there a particular reason why why you seem to prefer gas engine?

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    V is ideal for family of 4, yaya sa 3rd etc. for 5 i'd go for G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    coming from the cramped vios, i am confident you will be too busy enjoying the rest of the innova, you won't be complaining too much about the 2.0 gas engine's "seeming sluggishness", whatever that means. but as cvt above says, be prepared for the increased gas expenses.
    my relative has a 2.0, and isn't comlaining
    users seem to prefer the diesel innova. ang daming nagbebenta ng diesel innova. is there a particular reason why why you seem to prefer gas engine?
    yes im pretty psyched to ride a bigger unit for us! btw, what you mean sir by sluggishness of the 2.0 vvti?
    like I said, I am a weekend user only.. so I'm ready for it!

    my reason for sticking with gas engine:

    -limitado lng budget 500-550k (for considering 2012 up vehicle)
    -if i choose a diesel a/t, there will be a huge adjustment in my part re: producing the payment
    -not really familiar with diesel in terms of maintenance, mas mahal din daw since mas malaki makina nya..
    -sabi mabagal daw arangkada, kung sana ako sa vios ko n pinapa 110 ko sa slex haha (overspeeding)
    -mausok b d4d?

    thanks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTO View Post
    V is ideal for family of 4, yaya sa 3rd etc. for 5 i'd go for G.
    may point! parang kawawa nman yun isang anak ko kung nsa third row sya haha!
    pero cge po il look around G model. i came across a G variant but the year model is 2010 for 58T milease (8k per year)...
    is it still ok to buy 2010 model of innova?

    thanks!

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    ^^^ I think an Innova 2.0L petrol will be about the same (or a bit better) in terms of performance compared to a Vios.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Since gas Innovas sell for so much cheaper than similarly-aged diesel Innovas in the secondhand market, they can actually be quite a bargain. As long as the car is in good condition, I don't see anything wrong with getting a secondhand gas Innova. Someone else already took the depreciation hit for you so you're getting it cheap. [emoji106]

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    Thanks bro it made me confident to stick with Gas engine haha!!!
    yes the car is in good condition (new tires, excellent interior, etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepcare View Post
    -is it ok for me to migrate to a bigger unit with the same type of engine considering me being a weekend user only?

    Yes of course. Family of 5 medyo masikip na sa Vios kaya upgrade yung Innova from the Vios. Not to mention mas "equipped" for manila roads.

    Innova V pala yung prospect unit kaya baka yung 5th passenger mo ayaw umupo sa 3rd row.

    -is the second price of 500k fair enough? but will still try to negotiate it to 490k at least for detailing, tune up, etc.

    Fair na yung 500k. Prepare another 50k for things that are needed to be replaced and detailing.
    thanks bro!!! it's actually a concern for me since we are 5! but the good part i guess is my other kid can sleep in the third row all by herself hahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    ^^^ I think an Innova 2.0L petrol will be about the same (or a bit better) in terms of performance compared to a Vios.
    thanks bro! no big adjustment for me... upgrade in terms of unit, year model and low mileage (since my vios is already 74T)

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    Don't you like to consider the 2.7 vvti fortuner g? Hahaha just kidding. It is more expensive than your choice and more cramped but definitely more good to look at on our roads and also more capable.

    Anyway, I think the innova g is more practical than v because of the seating configuration and the g also has a manual tranny too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    Don't you like to consider the 2.7 vvti fortuner g? Hahaha just kidding. It is more expensive than your choice and more cramped but definitely more good to look at on our roads and also more capable.

    Anyway, I think the innova g is more practical than v because of the seating configuration and the g also has a manual tranny too.
    hahaha! grabe prang di ko p afford fortuner sir!
    pero cge il try to check a G model instead as per majority of the suggestions here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holdenme View Post
    thanks bro! no big adjustment for me... upgrade in terms of unit, year model and low mileage (since my vios is already 74T)
    Nothing wrong with a Vios already at 74k KM if you ask me. My 2001 Accord was at 195k KM when it was sold in early 2015.

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