Grand New Toyota Avanza

[StockEngine]

Good morning..

I was at Toyota Commonwealth last weekend and was able to check out the “New” Avanza.
- Same body equipped with Newly designed front (Headlights, etc.), rear (almost the same, added few details “ala-innova”)
- Middle Row seats (50/50, sliding)
- 3rd Row (50/50 folding), almost the same as mobilio in terms of comfort (almost no thigh support).
- Dual VVTi
- New Headunit
So far, yung new engine ang pinakarelevant sa lahat.. Sayang din walang unit for test drive.. More on pagcheck sa space lang tuloy nagawa ko ng husto..

OT: Meron ba tayong benchmark para sa torque and vehicle weight para sa 5 seaters and 7 seaters.. Gusto ko sana malaman yung MINIMUM Torque para sa uphill (baguio) kapag punuan.. I’m fully aware na most new vehicles can do yung uphill sa baguio.. Pero iba rin kasi yung di hirap.. Medyo duda kasi ako na piece of cake ang pagakyat ng 1.3 na avanza sa baguio kapag punuan (7 pax) eh.. Parang bitin ang 121 na torque.. TIA..

What cars have you driven up to baguio? What is your height pala? No thigh support sabi mo sa 3rd row hehehe. Baka 5'10 ka hehehe

[Dusty]

Revo, Vios, CRV, Altis.. 5'8" lang po, kaya ko sinabi na almost no thigh support kasi angat yung tuhod eh.. Parang din sa Mobilio.. Medyo di comfy kung malayo byahe.. Sa Ertiga ok lang.. Kaso may kaliitan ang space naman para sa paa..

Anyways.. Too harsh ko sa pagcocompare ko ng 2nd row seats sa 3rd row..

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Revo, Vios, CRV, Altis.. 5'8" lang po, kaya ko sinabi na almost no thigh support kasi angat yung tuhod eh.. Parang din sa Mobilio.. Medyo di comfy kung malayo byahe.. Sa Ertiga ok lang.. Kaso may kaliitan ang space naman para sa paa..

Anyways.. Too harsh ko sa pagcocompare ko ng 2nd row seats sa 3rd row..

[StockEngine]

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talagah...!!
and city driving kaya... which is what we drive most of the time..?

when the avanza first came out, i got turned off by its fuel in-efficiency.. my office colleague says his AT struggles to do 7 km/li in the city..
if the new engine is much better than that, i will certainly put it in my #1 list..

8-11 should be doable with the new engines in the city.

Its also in my short list 😅

[StockEngine]

Most of these small engine mpvs will require 4000rpm to go up baguio if youre in a hurry. Marcos highway is forgiving compared to naguillan or kenon.

Even mirages/g4 can go to baguio without incident. And their torque is 100nm. We have short gears for inclines. You cant expect driving to baguio under 3000rpm(higher inclines) with these eco cars/mpvs.

[GTi]

Weakest car I've driven up Kennon was the Revo diesel. It was loaded with 7pax plus luggage. Max torque of that engine is 165Nm, IIRC. Managed the climb in around 40mins and with aircon on all the way. Pace was by no means crawling, but engine rpm was almost always at 3-4k. Chugged down a hell of a lot of diesel too.

[dr. d]

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Weakest car I've driven up Kennon was the Revo diesel. It was loaded with 7pax plus luggage. Max torque of that engine is 165Nm, IIRC. Managed the climb in around 40mins and with aircon on all the way. Pace was by no means crawling, but engine rpm was almost always at 3-4k. Chugged down a hell of a lot of diesel too.

even on flat, even roads, with only one passenger (the driver), i found the revo diesel lacking in zip. but it doesn't complain, either. it just lugs along like a carabao (tamaraw? heh heh.)
i guess that's a common problem among older diesel engines..

[GTi]

^Compared to most gas engines or turbo diesels, it definitely is somewhat lacking. I've never had problems with it in city driving though. Very short gear ratios allow for acceleration good enough for me not to look bad upon peeling away from a stoplight. Difference in performance between just me and a full house actually isn't that much, testament to it's low end torque. Lugs along like a carabao indeed.

[cast_no_shadow]

Saw one in flesh displayed at SM Marilao.

Yung SA na kausap ko ang bungad agad saken eh

Sir touchscreen na po ang HU nyan!

Sabi ko hows the engine? Bago na ba?

I received a blank stare.

Come on people, know what you're selling.

Sinalo ng kasama, dual vvti na nga daw.

Confirmed na ba yun?


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[dr. d]

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Saw one in flesh displayed at SM Marilao.

Yung SA na kausap ko ang bungad agad saken eh

Sir touchscreen na po ang HU nyan!

Sabi ko hows the engine? Bago na ba?

I received a blank stare.

Come on people, know what you're selling.

Sinalo ng kasama, dual vvti na nga daw.

Confirmed na ba yun?


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vvti nga raw.. i heard from several sources..
i am waiting for the test drive report, and its fuel (in)efficiency figures..
the cash has been burning a hole in my wallet for several months now...

[KenGarcia]

Saw one in flesh displayed at SM Marilao.

Yung SA na kausap ko ang bungad agad saken eh

Sir touchscreen na po ang HU nyan!

Sabi ko hows the engine? Bago na ba?

I received a blank stare.

Come on people, know what you're selling.

Sinalo ng kasama, dual vvti na nga daw.

Confirmed na ba yun?


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For the win. Haha

[myas110]

Dual VVTi na siya..I saw a unit displayed in Megamall.

[Ironshadow]

Pwede po ba magtanong pwedepo ba paki explain briefly yung shifting gear ng automatic car.kasi kabibili ko lang ng car ang shifting gear nya is p,n,r,d-3,2,L pwede po ba humingi ng advice kasi simula nung nag drive ako galing sa kasa eh nag start ako sa L hindi sa D,tska yung handbreak hindi ko naibaba habang umaandar masisira po ba yung sasakyan?bago pa naman.

[iceblueyes]

P is Park, you set it here when you Park

N is Neutral, set it here if you are stationary but not parked.

R is Reverse, self explanatory naman siguro

D is Drive, use this for normal driving

3-2 is the gear ratios, picking either will set the max gear ratio na gagamitin ng kotse to the 3rd/2nd respectively
(i.e. kung 4 speed auto ka, magiging max gear na gagamitin niya is 3/2 lang.)

L is Low gear, or 1. uses the 1st gear ratio only. Ussually used to slowly climb steep inclines, i.e. slippery park ramps

as for the handbrake, works the same as in a manual car, and yes masisira yan if you keep forgetting to disengage it.


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I am dismayed na walang driver seat height adjustment ito....
Ok na sana, Fuel consumption na lang inaantay ko tapos biglang

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P is Park, you set it here when you Park

N is Neutral, set it here if you are stationary but not parked.

R is Reverse, self explanatory naman siguro

D is Drive, use this for normal driving

3-2 is the gear ratios, picking either will set the max gear ratio na gagamitin ng kotse to the 3rd/2nd respectively
(i.e. kung 4 speed auto ka, magiging max gear na gagamitin niya is 3/2 lang.)

L is Low gear, or 1. uses the 1st gear ratio only. Ussually used to slowly climb steep inclines, i.e. slippery park ramps

as for the handbrake, works the same as in a manual car, and yes masisira yan if you keep forgetting to disengage it.


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I am dismayed na walang driver seat height adjustment ito....
Ok na sana, Fuel consumption na lang inaantay ko tapos biglang

[StockEngine]

Toyota SA

1.3 MT FC is 6.1L/100
1.5 4AT FC(mixed) is 6.7L/100

quite frugal imo

Link below

Upgraded Avanza gets classy new trim - IOL Motoring

[lech]

sa 1.5 G m/t ano po ang fuel consumption
thanks

[dr. d]

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Toyota SA

1.3 MT FC is 6.1L/100
1.5 4AT FC(mixed) is 6.7L/100

quite frugal imo

Link below

Upgraded Avanza gets classy new trim - IOL Motoring

that depends..
i would like to compare it with the figures for the older avanza, that the source has.
that would probably be a better gauge of the improvement , if any..

[lech]

Malayo ba ang tinakbo mo? Hindi nman basta masisira kung ngaun lang nang yari.

[dr. d]

mukhang toyota ang may routine driver seat height adjustment. daihatsu does not seem to have, routinely.

[Ironshadow]

P is Park, you set it here when you Park

N is Neutral, set it here if you are stationary but not parked.

R is Reverse, self explanatory naman siguro

D is Drive, use this for normal driving

3-2 is the gear ratios, picking either will set the max gear ratio na gagamitin ng kotse to the 3rd/2nd respectively
(i.e. kung 4 speed auto ka, magiging max gear na gagamitin niya is 3/2 lang.)

L is Low gear, or 1. uses the 1st gear ratio only. Ussually used to slowly climb steep inclines, i.e. slippery park ramps

as for the handbrake, works the same as in a manual car, and yes masisira yan if you keep forgetting to disengage it.


back to topic

I am dismayed na walang driver seat height adjustment ito....
Ok na sana, Fuel consumption na lang inaantay ko tapos biglang

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P is Park, you set it here when you Park

N is Neutral, set it here if you are stationary but not parked.

R is Reverse, self explanatory naman siguro

D is Drive, use this for normal driving

3-2 is the gear ratios, picking either will set the max gear ratio na gagamitin ng kotse to the 3rd/2nd respectively
(i.e. kung 4 speed auto ka, magiging max gear na gagamitin niya is 3/2 lang.)

L is Low gear, or 1. uses the 1st gear ratio only. Ussually used to slowly climb steep inclines, i.e. slippery park ramps

as for the handbrake, works the same as in a manual car, and yes masisira yan if you keep forgetting to disengage it.


back to topic

I am dismayed na walang driver seat height adjustment ito....
Ok na sana, Fuel consumption na lang inaantay ko tapos biglang

May iba naman na nagsasabi yung L ay first gear sa manual tapos yung 2 second at 3 third tapos yung d eh 4.naguguluhan ako.d ko alam kung ano susundin ko kapag nagdrive.minsan pa nga kapag aandar na eh nasa L yung kambyo ko.tapos 20kmspeed shift ako sa 2.parang ba nag manual shifting ako sa automatic na car.hindi kaya masira gearbox nun?

[Challenger75]

May iba naman na nagsasabi yung L ay first gear sa manual tapos yung 2 second at 3 third tapos yung d eh 4.naguguluhan ako.d ko alam kung ano susundin ko kapag nagdrive.minsan pa nga kapag aandar na eh nasa L yung kambyo ko.tapos 20kmspeed shift ako sa 2.parang ba nag manual shifting ako sa automatic na car.hindi kaya masira gearbox nun?

Use D for normal driving. Those lower gears in the shifter are meant for overtaking (D3) and uphill driving (D2 & L), this allows you to access higher engine rpms as needed only.