Grand New Toyota Avanza

[cast_no_shadow]

secret, hahaha :lol:
basta near Capitol Commons area lang ako

hinanap ko nga the next day yung avanza sa Capitol Commons, wala na. hahaha.

Langya baka same building pala tayo

[wilcats]

hmm, I read the article in Top gear that the engines of the avanza says otherwise...HP, Torque numbers, etc. pero hindi namention kung dual vvti na siya. Much better kung makita natin ito in person.

(coincidentally, hindi ko tuloy nakita yung launch niya noong Tuesday since nasa area lang ako ng Capitol Commons nagwowork)

Hi. the new engines are now equipped with Dual VVTi.
The new Engine codes are:

2NR-VE & 1NR-VE.

Compared with the previous engines, it runs smoother and quieter than before.
HTH

[dr. d]

Hi. the new engines are now equipped with Dual VVTi.
The new Engine codes are:

2NR-VE & 1NR-VE.

Compared with the previous engines, it runs smoother and quieter than before.
HTH

what the battle at the pump, sir? that will probably decide on whether i go get one or not..

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Hi. the new engines are now equipped with Dual VVTi.
The new Engine codes are:

2NR-VE & 1NR-VE.

Compared with the previous engines, it runs smoother and quieter than before.
HTH

what the battle at the pump, sir? that will probably decide on whether i go get one or not..

[StockEngine]

************ brochure is somewhat wrong lol. (Officially wrong 😅 ). Sira nanaman si Mr. Uly Ang

Dual vvti pala based on engine bay pictures.

[_Qwerty_]

dual vvti sya..



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dual vvti sya..

[Dusty]

Good morning..

I was at Toyota Commonwealth last weekend and was able to check out the “New” Avanza.
- Same body equipped with Newly designed front (Headlights, etc.), rear (almost the same, added few details “ala-innova”)
- Middle Row seats (50/50, sliding)
- 3rd Row (50/50 folding), almost the same as mobilio in terms of comfort (almost no thigh support).
- Dual VVTi
- New Headunit
So far, yung new engine ang pinakarelevant sa lahat.. Sayang din walang unit for test drive.. More on pagcheck sa space lang tuloy nagawa ko ng husto..

OT: Meron ba tayong benchmark para sa torque and vehicle weight para sa 5 seaters and 7 seaters.. Gusto ko sana malaman yung MINIMUM Torque para sa uphill (baguio) kapag punuan.. I’m fully aware na most new vehicles can do yung uphill sa baguio.. Pero iba rin kasi yung di hirap.. Medyo duda kasi ako na piece of cake ang pagakyat ng 1.3 na avanza sa baguio kapag punuan (7 pax) eh.. Parang bitin ang 121 na torque.. TIA..

[dct]

Halos 1 ton lang pala yung avanza. Bakit malakas sya sa gas kumpara vios e halos ganun din bigat ng vios? Mas mabigat lang avanza ng more or less 20 kilo

[dr. d]

Halos 1 ton lang pala yung avanza. Bakit malakas sya sa gas kumpara vios e halos ganun din bigat ng vios? Mas mabigat lang avanza ng more or less 20 kilo

it's not so much the body weight, as it is the engine design, po.
we must keep in mind that the avanza engine is a muggle daihatsu, not a pure-blood toyota... even as daihatsu is partly owned by toyota..

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Halos 1 ton lang pala yung avanza. Bakit malakas sya sa gas kumpara vios e halos ganun din bigat ng vios? Mas mabigat lang avanza ng more or less 20 kilo

it's not so much the body weight, as it is the engine design, po.
we must keep in mind that the avanza engine is a muggle daihatsu, not a pure-blood toyota... even as daihatsu is partly owned by toyota..

[dct]

it's not so much the body weight, as it is the engine design, po.
we must keep in mind that the avanza engine is a muggle daihatsu, not a pure-blood toyota... even as daihatsu is partly owned by toyota..

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it's not so much the body weight, as it is the engine design, po.
we must keep in mind that the avanza engine is a muggle daihatsu, not a pure-blood toyota... even as daihatsu is partly owned by toyota..

But same engine with vios right? May difference ba?

[jut703]

But same engine with vios right? May difference ba?

Not the same engine, even with the old one. The old Avanza used 3SZ-VE and K3-DE engines, while the Vios has always used NZ engines.

[dct]

Not the same engine, even with the old one. The old Avanza used 3SZ-VE and K3-DE engines, while the Vios has always used NZ engines.

Ohhhh... akala ko dati pa same engine sila

[StockEngine]

The engines werent super efficient. Drivetrain loss from the rear wheel drive configuration.

As said before 15% improved fc on 1.3 and 20% for 1.5L engine. The improvement only means the old engines were crap.

[dct]

May loss pala pag rear wheel drive

[StockEngine]

May loss pala pag rear wheel drive

Look for the loss in the rwd layout section below. Its a good read.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_layout

[Challenger75]

Bukod sa mahina yung engine at drivetrain loss, possible rin yung wind resistance dahil mas mataas siya vs sedans like the vios. Wala ako data to prove this pero I'd like to think malaki effect nito lalo na sa highway driving. One more factor is the transmission, pero again I have no info what kind of tranny they use in the Avanza vs what's in the Vios/Yaris. What I know for the old Avanza is that AT is slow and drop in rpms when upshifting is noticeable. Not sure it they updated the transmission together with the engine.

[StockEngine]

Bukod sa mahina yung engine at drivetrain loss, possible rin yung wind resistance dahil mas mataas siya vs sedans like the vios. Wala ako data to prove this pero I'd like to think malaki effect nito lalo na sa highway driving. One more factor is the transmission, pero again I have no info what kind of tranny they use in the Avanza vs what's in the Vios/Yaris. What I know for the old Avanza is that AT is slow and drop in rpms when upshifting is noticeable. Not sure it they updated the transmission together with the engine.

Yes coefficient of drag is a factor sa highway .36(old avanza) vs .28(vios). But for stop and go its not too bad.

[coiter]

adjustable for legroom (sliding) na kaya ang middle row nito?

[StockEngine]

adjustable for legroom (sliding) na kaya ang middle row nito?

50:50 split, tumble(for 3rd row ingress and more capacity) and sliding.

[StockEngine]

what the battle at the pump, sir? that will probably decide on whether i go get one or not..

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what the battle at the pump, sir? that will probably decide on whether i go get one or not..

Fc is very similar to the mobilio cvt. (Just under 16km/l)

Test drive na 😎

[dr. d]

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Fc is very similar to the mobilio cvt. (Just under 16km/l)

Test drive na ��

talagah...!!
and city driving kaya... which is what we drive most of the time..?

when the avanza first came out, i got turned off by its fuel in-efficiency.. my office colleague says his AT struggles to do 7 km/li in the city..
if the new engine is much better than that, i will certainly put it in my #1 list..