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    Guys check this out latest leaked from Toyota thailand. Paultan.org/2015/02/26/Toyota innova-leaked-2016/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinahecho View Post
    Guys check this out latest leaked from Toyota thailand. Paultan.org/2015/02/26/Toyota innova-leaked-2016/
    shades of HRV!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinahecho View Post
    Guys check this out latest leaked from Toyota thailand. Paultan.org/2015/02/26/Toyota innova-leaked-2016/
    shades of HRV!

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    Nice! Sana ito na talaga iyon.

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    its about time. the current innova is the fugliest model since it was launched.

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    ^^^ Agreed ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trucker111 View Post
    its about time. the current innova is the fugliest model since it was launched.
    it is a wonder why this ugly duck became one of their sellingest models ever...

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    Looks were never the Innova's selling point. The reliable and efficient diesel, adequate seating for 8, comfortable and durable chassis, versatile interior, and of course the Toyota badge are what makes this car a hit.

    There's simply no other car in this price range that competes with the Innova. It's good that Toyota is developing a new one, but even if the current one remains unchanged, it's still 5 years more modern than anything Isuzu or Mitsubishi offers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Looks were never the Innova's selling point. The reliable and efficient diesel, adequate seating for 8, comfortable and durable chassis, versatile interior, and of course the Toyota badge are what makes this car a hit.

    There's simply no other car in this price range that competes with the Innova. It's good that Toyota is developing a new one, but even if the current one remains unchanged, it's still 5 years more modern than anything Isuzu or Mitsubishi offers.
    This is the reason why people buy, and re-buy an Innova. I know of families who have gone through two or even three new models since 2005 (they change every 4-5 years).

    I hope they improve the crash worthiness on the new model. I travel often enough on the highway and one thing i noticed on the Innova was it doesn't fare too well when it collides with a high vehicle. You often see damage going up and over the A-pillar, which collapses totally. Power-wise, the a/t version could use more oomph when it's loaded but i'm not complaining because it's a people carrier and there are straightforward ways to work on the power if you really must.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    This is the reason why people buy, and re-buy an Innova. I know of families who have gone through two or even three new models since 2005 (they change every 4-5 years).

    I hope they improve the crash worthiness on the new model. I travel often enough on the highway and one thing i noticed on the Innova was it doesn't fare too well when it collides with a high vehicle. You often see damage going up and over the A-pillar, which collapses totally. Power-wise, the a/t version could use more oomph when it's loaded but i'm not complaining because it's a people carrier and there are straightforward ways to work on the power if you really must.
    Agree bro.

    Yup,- the 4 A/T, though it is reliable is already archaic...

    They should go to 5 A/T or better...

    Again A/Ts have matured significantly through the years.... (Huwag lang iyong DCT ng Ford... )


    "The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    ... I travel often enough on the highway and one thing i noticed on the Innova was it doesn't fare too well when it collides with a high vehicle. You often see damage going up and over the A-pillar, which collapses totally.
    Correct me if I am wrong but is this an after effect of the crumple zones technology (if I may call it such) which is to divert all the force of impact away from the passenger at the price of a totally wrecked car? A healthy crash survivor can buy a new car in due time whereas a paralyzed owner may no longer have the ability to drive even if his car survived the crash.

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    ipapalit ba ito sa innova mga sir..

    same price range,, id be thinking to get one since going seven years old na innova ko sa 2016...

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    ipapalit ba ito sa innova mga sir..

    same price range,, id be thinking to get one since going seven years old na innova ko sa 2016...

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    * CVT. Signs of age indeed. Before i used to abhor Toyotas for being boring. After years of owning different brands, and paying for vehicle service, i now usually consider a Toyota first when we go on the market. It may not be as fun to drive or as character-filled as my Nissans, or my dad's old E36 but in a day and age where i just want my family to be comfortable, have ample power, and have less time to spend in servicing and maintaining a car... it's hard to not oversee what they offer.

    Quote Originally Posted by dos2 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong but is this an after effect of the crumple zones technology (if I may call it such) which is to divert all the force of impact away from the passenger at the price of a totally wrecked car? A healthy crash survivor can buy a new car in due time whereas a paralyzed owner may no longer have the ability to drive even if his car survived the crash.
    The crumple zone works when it hits a low vehicle. But if you see an Innova hitting a high vehicle (like a bus, truck or SUV), the crumple zone goes under and there is more force to the A-pillar instead. Same goes with Innovas that i have seen turn turtle, the A-pillar collapse is evident as well. Another car i often see turn-turtle on the expressways is the Monty Sport and i see the A-pillar or roof holds up pretty well from collapse.

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    * CVT. Signs of age indeed. Before i used to abhor Toyotas for being boring. After years of owning different brands, and paying for vehicle service, i now usually consider a Toyota first when we go on the market. It may not be as fun to drive or as character-filled as my Nissans, or my dad's old E36 but in a day and age where i just want my family to be comfortable, have ample power, and have less time to spend in servicing and maintaining a car... it's hard to not oversee what they offer.

    Quote Originally Posted by dos2 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong but is this an after effect of the crumple zones technology (if I may call it such) which is to divert all the force of impact away from the passenger at the price of a totally wrecked car? A healthy crash survivor can buy a new car in due time whereas a paralyzed owner may no longer have the ability to drive even if his car survived the crash.
    The crumple zone works when it hits a low vehicle. But if you see an Innova hitting a high vehicle (like a bus, truck or SUV), the crumple zone goes under and there is more force to the A-pillar instead. Same goes with Innovas that i have seen turn turtle, the A-pillar collapse is evident as well. Another car i often see turn-turtle on the expressways is the Monty Sport and i see the A-pillar or roof holds up pretty well from collapse.

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    ^Add some hundred thousand bucks more and the price will be much closer to the entry-level MS GLX M/T, at least for the Innova 2.5 G and 2.5 V variants.

    The MS is a much better choice in that range but of course, being an SUV, it's more tighter, more thirstier and has more expensive PMS when compared to the Innova, not to mention that it's diesel engine is also prone to emitting black smoke. But over the latter, it possesses sporty looks, more comfy ride, more powerful diesel engine, good flood-fording capabilities, great road presence and the fact that you can add some aesthetic parts to make it better & unique looking in one's eye.

    But still, we cannot deny the fact that both of these vehicles are already old and also too common here in our roads, which gets very tiring in our eyes.

    I just hope that with this new Innova, it should get the better 2.5 D4D VNT powerplant and a better transmission, plus Toyota should fix this issue that, while a diesel Innova is running more than 110kph, you could feel some very harsh vibration inside and also feel that the engine is already working hard to push itself to it's limits, which shows that it probably tops out at 130-140kph. I don't know if it's the same with the Hiace and non-VNT Fortuner or Hilux but being a passenger once in an Innova, that's what I have observed before when it was used in the highway and the way it felt at that speed.

    I guess Toyota can try to make a more better and more refined Innova by addressing some of it's shortcomings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    ^Add some hundred thousand bucks more and the price will be much closer to the entry-level MS GLX M/T, at least for the Innova 2.5 G and 2.5 V variants.

    The MS is a much better choice in that range but of course, being an SUV, it's more tighter, more thirstier and has more expensive PMS when compared to the Innova, not to mention that it's diesel engine is also prone to emitting black smoke. But over the latter, it possesses sporty looks, more comfy ride, more powerful diesel engine, good flood-fording capabilities, great road presence and the fact that you can add some aesthetic parts to make it better & unique looking in one's eye.

    But still, we cannot deny the fact that both of these vehicles are already old and also too common here in our roads, which gets very tiring in our eyes.

    I just hope that with this new Innova, it should get the better 2.5 D4D VNT powerplant and a better transmission, plus Toyota should fix this issue that, while a diesel Innova is running more than 110kph, you could feel some very harsh vibration inside and also feel that the engine is already working hard to push itself to it's limits, which shows that it probably tops out at 130-140kph. I don't know if it's the same with the Hiace and non-VNT Fortuner or Hilux but being a passenger once in an Innova, that's what I have observed before when it was used in the highway and the way it felt at that speed.

    I guess Toyota can try to make a more better and more refined Innova by addressing some of it's shortcomings.
    i gather, you do not own an innova.
    kindly read entry #7 above, to get an idea of what the competition is up against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    ^Add some hundred thousand bucks more and the price will be much closer to the entry-level MS GLX M/T, at least for the Innova 2.5 G and 2.5 V variants.

    The MS is a much better choice in that range but of course, being an SUV, it's more tighter, more thirstier and has more expensive PMS when compared to the Innova, not to mention that it's diesel engine is also prone to emitting black smoke. But over the latter, it possesses sporty looks, more comfy ride, more powerful diesel engine, good flood-fording capabilities, great road presence and the fact that you can add some aesthetic parts to make it better & unique looking in one's eye.

    But still, we cannot deny the fact that both of these vehicles are already old and also too common here in our roads, which gets very tiring in our eyes.

    I just hope that with this new Innova, it should get the better 2.5 D4D VNT powerplant and a better transmission, plus Toyota should fix this issue that, while a diesel Innova is running more than 110kph, you could feel some very harsh vibration inside and also feel that the engine is already working hard to push itself to it's limits, which shows that it probably tops out at 130-140kph. I don't know if it's the same with the Hiace and non-VNT Fortuner or Hilux but being a passenger once in an Innova, that's what I have observed before when it was used in the highway and the way it felt at that speed.

    I guess Toyota can try to make a more better and more refined Innova by addressing some of it's shortcomings.
    Stopped reading at some hundred thousand bucks more. You missed the point of the Innova by a mile.

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    ... internalcombust...??
    nah...!!

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    This new model looks interesting. Maganda rin naman yung first-gen Innova, it looks like the first-gen Honda Jazz na pinalaki

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    Looks promising. When I first saw the current innova napangitan ako pero as I see more on the road parang it has the looks that grows on you. When I saw one with bigger tires and rims well ang ganda and sabi ko sa sarili ko gulong lang pala ang mali sa itsura niya.

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    Innova admittedly looks pale, looks like a raw hotdog in red paint, and strongly lacks the pogi look attributed to an suv.... but after riding a battered 5 year old innova J with 180K kms of my officemate which he uses in our dailycarpool, I immediately became a fan. It has enough power, spacious, comfortable (sometimes we are 9 adult from Makati to Batangas), very reliable, and cheap to maintain. I would love to own one someday and would surely buy one in the future unless of course I can afford to own and maintain a midsize suv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTcervan View Post
    ^Add some hundred thousand bucks more and the price will be much closer to the entry-level MS GLX M/T, at least for the Innova 2.5 G and 2.5 V variants.

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    This comment i.e. "add a bit more...." , which is kinda usual here really puzzles me. Maybe because I'm not rich.
    What I mean is it is not easy to "add some hundred thousand bucks more".
    If it is that easy, I assume most Innova owners would have bought a Fortuner or a Montero or even Trailblazer.

    We have an Innova G but Honestly I explored getting a Montero instead. But stretching the budget even by "just a hundred thousand" is not easy. The math tells it all.

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