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    #8981
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    still no info on the 4th Gen Vios


    e
    oo nga.
    i'm waiting for the new version.

    i waited for the new wigo, and i wasn't impressed by the exterior. "too many sharp angles".
    i am hoping, the new vios will loosen my purse strings.
    as of now kasi, i would rather get a used altis than a new current vios. may sukli pa ako.

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    #8982
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    GR also discontinued na.

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    #8983
    2024 Toyota Vios for PH: All new or just new look? -Autoindustriya.com

    TMP has received approval for passenger vehicles with gasoline engine displacements of 1329cc and 1496cc. Upon running the numbers, the engine capacities point out to the 1NR and 2NR-FE – two Dual VVT-I engines that are part of the Vios lineup in the country.

    In these cases, a new approval could mean they are either launching the DNGA all-new model or a model update. For the Vios, Toyota seems to be leaning towards the latter.

    The approval had the chassis code NSP150, which points out to the one used by the third-generation Vios. For reference, the fourth-generation DNGA Vios has the chassis code AC100. So based on this information alone, it looks like Toyota Motor Philippines is intent on sticking to the third-generation model.

    Last year, the third-generation model Vios received a rather interesting facelift over in Vietnam. It had a new look front-end, some minor changes to the standard features, and added the Toyota Safety Sense to the top-spec G variant.

    The PH-spec model could mirror those updates, but it would still depend on the product planning specialists over at the Santa Rosa plant where Toyota makes the Vios.

    From a manufacturing engineer’s perspective, one possible reason for TMP sticking to the third-generation model is that it takes less work (and far less cost) to tweak the production line for a minor refresh rather than a full model change, especially now that they also have their hands full retooling the plant to produce the new Tamaraw. This could also be another reason why TMP had to cut down the Vios lineup to optimize the production flow of parts and raw materials.

    So as it stands, the DNGA Vios may not come until at least next year... or even not at all.

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    #8984
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    Toyota has got to be the king of recycling stuff. Recycling old models, recycling technology. Price however, keeps going up for some reason.

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    #8985
    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Toyota has got to be the king of recycling stuff. Recycling old models, recycling technology. Price however, keeps going up for some reason.
    sumusunod na ang Honda sa kanila... same 1.5 engine for almost all its models.

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    #8986
    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Toyota has got to be the king of recycling stuff. Recycling old models, recycling technology. Price however, keeps going up for some reason.
    Its the "Toyota-tax".

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    #8987
    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Toyota has got to be the king of recycling stuff. Recycling old models, recycling technology. Price however, keeps going up for some reason.
    their corporate motto,
    "why fix it if it ain't broken?"

    how toyota does it, daw.
    they will not replace a part, but instead tweak it over and over to eke out better performance, replacing it only when a better alternative is available.
    as a result, we have their so-called boringly reliable cars,
    where the latest car shares the same basic engine, suspension, atbp, as the car ten years older than it.

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    #8988
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    their corporate motto,
    "why fix it if it ain't broken?"

    how toyota does it, daw.
    they will not replace a part, but instead tweak it over and over to eke out better performance, replacing it only when a better alternative is available.
    as a result, we have their so-called boringly reliable cars,
    where the latest car shares the same basic engine, suspension, atbp, as the car ten years older than it.
    So if a car manufacturer wants to be as successful as Toyota, they must learn the art of recycling products I guess.

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    #8989
    on the topic of "previous gen" parts... sa akin it depends.

    Remember the Toyota 2E?

    First time I saw one was on a E90 (may contact point and a separate ignition coil)
    sa E100 namin electronic na sya which was a very welcome upgrade
    Pero I feel na super luma na nung 2E when it was still used sa E110

    yung Tamaraw FX din with the old 5K engine was under powered, later versions na may 7K was way better pero hirap na hirap pa din.

    para sa mga bata naman... remember the 2NZ-FE version of the early versions ng XP150? It was later replaced by the 1NR-FE with CVT
    NZ version was used by the first 2 versions of the Vios which was underpowered for the 3rd Gen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    on the topic of "previous gen" parts... sa akin it depends.

    Remember the Toyota 2E?

    First time I saw one was on a E90 (may contact point and a separate ignition coil)
    sa E100 namin electronic na sya which was a very welcome upgrade
    Pero I feel na super luma na nung 2E when it was still used sa E110

    yung Tamaraw FX din with the old 5K engine was under powered, later versions na may 7K was way better pero hirap na hirap pa din.

    para sa mga bata naman... remember the 2NZ-FE version of the early versions ng XP150? It was later replaced by the 1NR-FE with CVT
    NZ version was used by the first 2 versions of the Vios which was underpowered for the 3rd Gen.
    that we even remember these letters and numbers, are testament to... something.
    i do not even remember my old sentra's engine designation. and i had only one sentra.
    heh heh.

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    #8991
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    that we even remember these letters and numbers, are testament to... something.
    i do not even remember my old sentra's engine designation. and i had only one sentra.
    heh heh.
    first hand experience kasi...

    sa Honda naman. L15 (favorite engine ng Honda ngayon)

    I think Nissan used the GA locally for 2 generations din

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    #8992
    I guess the engine series goes by the technology dictated by EPA for fuel efficiency & emission regulations.

    2E were carb and only PCV, later versions were fuel injected with egr and catalyst.

    1nz is not much underpowered compared to 2nz because of the obvious displacement difference, but they were used by the gen 2 and 3 for more than a decade because of fuel efficiency and easy to fix.

    The Honda L series is more on ivtec which is just an enhancement of the older to attain balance of fuel efficiency and power, usually H has more output power per displacement compared to equivalent of other brands.

    Then now we are flooded with 1.5 China cars due to another government tax regulations, most are force inducting the 1.5 to fit in the heavier cars.

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    #8993
    Baka dahil sa recent daihatsu safety scandal thats why hindi pa nila fit for PH and Vietnam market ang AC100 Vios.

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    #8994
    Toyota Motor PH Trims Vios Line-Up For 2�26 | CarGuide | Philippine Car News, Car Reviews, Car Prices

    Vios 1.3 J MT – P 738,000
    Vios 1.3 XE CVT – P 780,000
    Vios 1.3 XLE MT – P 868,000
    Vios 1.3 XLE CVT – P 908,000

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    #8995
    XE cvt... ang lapit na sa wigo CVT...
    what about the vios hybrid, i wonder?

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    #8996
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    XE cvt... ang lapit na sa wigo CVT...
    what about the vios hybrid, i wonder?
    I guess if you want a hybrid Vios, you have to go for the P1.198M 1.5 HEV variant of the all-new (Vios) ATIV.
    https://www.topgear.com.ph/drives/ca...a2619-20251017

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