All New 2013 Toyota Vios (3rd Gen)

[JJ All Day]

welcome to this community!

[ReneSamuel]

gdpm po sa inyong lahat. mga isang taon na po ako nagbabasa dito sa forum na to and marami po ako natutunan.. siguro po sa ngayon masasabi ko na isa na ako ngayon sa magiging bago nyong miyembro kung inyo pong mamarapatin, sa higit isang taon ko pong sumusubaybay dito ngayon lang po ako nagpost, dahil sabi ko sa sarili ko na magpopost lang ako dito pag may vios na rin ako, sa awa po ng panginoon kasama ng dasal at pagsusumikap, natupad po ang aking munting pangarap bukas po makukuha ko na po ang aking brand new vios J variant. Maraming salamat po uli sa inyong lahat..God bless you all!!!

Congrats sir! Check mo lang maigi kotse mo for issues na nabanggit na dito.

[jut703]

Yup pwede ka naman magpost ng pic ng Vios mo

[extragulaman]

Hi,

Napansin ko lang sa pinto ng vios namin, e kailang ko pang ilakas yung pagsara ng pinto. Hindi sya lumalapat sa medyo mahinang sara. Anyone with same experience?

Ty

[ReneSamuel]

Hi,

Napansin ko lang sa pinto ng vios namin, e kailang ko pang ilakas yung pagsara ng pinto. Hindi sya lumalapat sa medyo mahinang sara. Anyone with same experience?

Ty

Same here boss. Medyo mahigpit yung hinges ng pinto kaya kailangan ng konting lakas. Yung 2nd gen ko dati kahit medyo mahina pwede na kaya nakaka panibago din sa una. Sanayan lang.

[Synth007]

Same here lahat ng pinto mapa trunk kailangan malakas ang sara. Nakakapanibago lng din. Paggamit ko un isa naming sasakyan palagi napapalakas un sara ko dahil nasanay sa vios

[extragulaman]

Thanks guys, kala ko samin lang ganun e. Mukang normal lang naman pala. Hehe

[abaddon013]

May mawawala ba sa warranty kapag nagkabit ako nung spoiler na may break lights? TIA

[Synth007]

Electrical warranty if my splicing then if bubutasan yun trunk, yun paint warranty nun trunk ata. Pero if sa casa maretain naman. Lam ko may available sa casa nasa 7k ata.

Andito ulit ako casa to claim warranty. For replacing na yun lower arm ko and yun weather strip na natatanggal sa roof and dun sa left passenger door.

[jut703]

I tried the Vios' top speed, just for the heck of it. Past 160 kph, there's barely anything there anymore. Even if you downshift to 3rd gear, the needle creeps very very slowly to 170. It would take a very long road to go at that speed if it was an even surface.

Thankfully, the SCTEX has a good downhill stretch leading up to a flat road. I accelerated as quickly as I could on the downhill and reached 188 kph (180 on my GPS). On the flat road, the car was able to keep that speed, but not any faster. Once I got on a bit of incline, it started to slow down - seems like the engine was already at its very limit when it was maintaining 180+ on a flat road, that a small incline is already too much.

Btw this was just with me on board. I doubt it would go past 170 if it was loaded.


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[jut703]

On my trip back, I tried to measure the best FC I could get without hypermiling - got 17.47 km/L. 😊

The only thing I did differently was drive very slowly. I maintained 80 kph on SCTEX (very very boring) but sped up to about 100 on NLEX. Met a bit of traffic from the Mindanao Ave Exit which lowered the figure a bit.

Has anyone done 20 km/L over a real highway trip?

Btw, even with good highway figures, I still get a pathetic 7.9 km/L in moderate to heavy city driving. I find it odd because a small-engined car with only a 4AT usually does well in the city but poorly on the highway. In my case it's the complete opposite.


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[niky]

On my trip back, I tried to measure the best FC I could get without hypermiling - got 17.47 km/L. ��

The only thing I did differently was drive very slowly. I maintained 80 kph on SCTEX (very very boring) but sped up to about 100 on NLEX. Met a bit of traffic from the Mindanao Ave Exit which lowered the figure a bit.

Has anyone done 20 km/L over a real highway trip?

Btw, even with good highway figures, I still get a pathetic 7.9 km/L in moderate to heavy city driving. I find it odd because a small-engined car with only a 4AT usually does well in the city but poorly on the highway. In my case it's the complete opposite.


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I did when I was doing the AeroVios experiments with the 1.3MT. The 18-19 in the article included low speed simulated urban running, and the highway was crowded during my tank-to-tank refill runs. I've done an indicated 25 km/l on the 1.5, but that's on the MID lang. I'm assuming that's just 21-23 km/l in reality. That's pure 80 km/h on the highway, measured via GPS.

I have an upcoming article, pure highway, where I achieved over 20 km/l with the 1.3 AT, tank-to-tank measurements, maintaining 80 km/h via GPS (85+++ km/h on the speedometer).

[jut703]

Niky do you find that the Vios is still more efficient at 80 than 100?

I started to speed up from 80 to 100 because my fuel gauge seemed to be going down quicker at 80 kph than it did when I was driving normally (100-120). No MID so I couldn't be sure.

I usually follow the general rule of sticking to 80 kph for best efficiency but I dunno if it applies to the Vios too.


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[niky]

70 is actually better than 80. The Vios's gearing is just too short. On the 1.5, it's a very predictable decline in efficiency from 100 (around 16-17) to 80 (around 18) to 60 (around 20+). But the problem is if you have to climb hills or overtake, pumping on the pedal will bring the average down down down. Also, if you're cruising at 60, you can REALLY feel it when the AC kicks in... the drag is incredible.

I can keep economy decent because I usually set my thermostat low, I don't compensate for hills (I let the speed drop, then gain it back on the way down) and I usually plan my overtakes so I don't have to speed up.

For the 1.3 MT... not sure. I've done a number of eco-tests, but without a MID, my data is only for controlled tests at 80 km/h. The Yaris 1.3 AT E has a MID, and it seems to indicate that 70 km/h is better and, like the Vios 1.5, you can still maintain good economy at 100 km/h versus 80 (just a 1 or 1.5 km/l drop).

Of course... at 70 km/h, driving is boooring. At 60, even overloaded trucks and jeepneys are overtaking you.

[jut703]

Interesting, same observation with my Ranger before. Highest km/L reading was at 70 on 6th gear at barely over 1000 rpm. It was indicating around 25-30 km/L. Never got to verify with the full tank method because I'd always get bored and get back up to normal speed.

I'll probably try another run at 70-80 but only for an NLEX trip, maybe San Fernando to Balintawak. Doing a Subic-Balintawak run at that speed is just torture.


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[niky]

The hills on the SCTEX will kill any results. If you practice good momentum driving (let speed build up past your target speed when going downhill, then bleed it off on the straights), you can minimize the economy loss, but it'll be more dramatic a loss at low speed than high speed, where you have more momentum to carry up the hills, and you don't have to stress the engine as much.

The Balintawak - San Fernando route might work... but time it to avoid tollgate traffic so you get a clean reading. Maybe even just do a run between two less-used tollgates in between.

[jut703]

When I did my last run on SCTEX I also allowed the car to shed speed on uphills and gain them back on downhills. I just tried to keep pedal input as even as possible all throughout. Perhaps if I kept my thermostat lower (it was 12nn and I have no WS tint) and stuck to 80 instead of 100 I could've broken 20 km/L.

I've been going to and from Pampanga/Subic/Tarlac the past few days and even if I go at different times, the tollgate traffic is always bad. Luckiest I've been was only a 3-car queue which still meant about 5 min of idling. Christmas traffic extends to the expressways, unfortunately. Maybe next year...

[chito2011]

i can't do what you're doing, with the traffic getting worse everyday, the only way to compensate for lost time is to speed up!

[jut703]

i can't do what you're doing, with the traffic getting worse everyday, the only way to compensate for lost time is to speed up!

I used to think like this. But then I realized I often end up overtaking eager beavers driving at 140 on the expressway even if I'm just casually cruising at 100-120 because these juveniles are too gigil that they don't choose their lane properly and end up braking and accelerating too much.

In the city, it's no use trying to speed up because you're gonna get caught up in the traffic jam in the next intersection anyway. A more useful skill is to be smart about which lane to choose and to be quick (but not to the point of cutting others) when changing lanes.

Plus, it's pretty stressful to always be in a hurry. Nothing beats leaving early and giving a bit of allowance. If you can't leave early, driving in a hurry can save you 10 minutes at best for an hour-long trip, which isn't much unless it's a very important affair like a family member getting rushed to the hospital.

[niky]

I lost the VW EcoRun a few months ago... (thanks to a pump issue) but I wont the return leg in traffic, partly through smart driving. I didn't even have to turn my engine off at the tollgates and push (the guys who did came in 2.5 km/l behind me)

Here's the thing... I won it without going slowly in traffic. Basically pulse, glide, coast and watch for every single opening. Predict which lanes are going to be clogged and avoid them. I managed to stay on the tail of the jackrabbits in traffic without ever having to accelerate hard... and at points, when the road was almost at a standstill, I managed to coast along for dozens of meters at a time.

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Like jut703 says... eager beavers and jackrabbits are just wasting gas. Hold back and watch them... in fact... watch everyone getting through traffic. Pick a winner, and copy his strategy. I guarantee you, the "winner" isn't changing lane every two minutes. He'll change lanes once or twice and stick with the fastest lane, even when it stops. He won't be going for the instant overtake, he'll simply wait for a better opening and take that... to avoid being stuck in that line of impatient drivers tailgating each other and getting stuck behind the truck hogging the fast lane.

Saving gas isn't always driving slow. You can save gas while driving quickly. You just have to be smart about it.

Also, *jut703:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZefgUVg3qx0

Mythbusters: Just 5% from weaving. Of course... that greatly depends on the quality of the weaving. I think they should have tested different "weaving" algorithms, also.

Suggest you catch the entire episode. It was fantastic, actually.