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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    After all your feedback about my previous topic about on what SUV i will buy:

    hyundai Santafe 4x2 crdi - Ok na sana kaso 1 airbag only with the price of 1.5m+ i think not worth it.

    chevrolet Captiva 4x2 crdi - Ok din sana kaso 5 seaters lang although pwede palagyan ng 3rd row seats pero the problem would be aircondition na naman kasi kawawa naman mga nasa likod kung walang airvent. Pero yung price is worth it naman kasi 1.3m lang.

    Ford Everest - Ok price at 1.3m lang sa 4x2 a/t nila kaso di ko type itsura ...

    Toyota Fortuner 4x2 2.5 d4d - Sa tingin ko ito yung fit talaga sakin kasi 7 seaters sya tapos hindi problem aircon kasi may sariling aircon mga nasa 3rd row. Ang problem ko lang ay kung baka naman under power kasi pareho lang ng makina sa Innova and mas malaki pa ang fortuner. Although nakapag test drive na ako ng fortuner 4x2 diesel pero hindi ko naman mahataw kasi medyo traffic naman ... soo hihingi na lang aklo tulong sa mga may fortuner 4x2 2.5 d4d kung ano experience nyo. And the price is not bad at around 1.4m+.

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    I have the 2.7 VVT-i version.

    Well here are the HP ratings of the three (3) variants of the Fortuner:

    1.) 3.0 d4d = 163 HP

    2.) 2.7 VVT-i = 160 HP

    3.) 2.5 d4d = 102 HP


    Even sa torque ratings, kulelat yung 2.5 d4d. Pero power is subjective, depende yan sa gumagamit at sa paggagamitan.

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    i think the fortuner 2.5d4d is not under powered but i think the only problem is that there are so many horror stories with that engine. i heard it was fixed already by toyota but there are still owners who said that they are still experiencing some problem with this engine. little advice, do more research about its engine and ask some owners about their experiences with this ride.
    and also with that money i opt to get the Hyundai SF 4x4, i think it has 2 airbags but the price is a little higher(its around 1.6M) but i believe the 200T difference between these two rides is worth the extra cash.

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    Amongst ladder-frame SUVs, the Fortuner 2.5 has the best body control, but the weakest engine (on paper). But power is relative. You don't need much of it to get around, though overtaking on the highway will be understandably harder. The one big negative is the horribly stiff ride, which is uncomfortable for passengers in the back. If you're driving alone, it's not something you'll feel too much.

    The Everest has a more powerful 2.5 TDCi engine, and fuel economy is slightly better, but the electronic throttle causes lag (sometimes takes a second or two to react) and the shocks are just a bit too soft, which makes it feel floaty, even from the front seat.

    The Alterra rides butter soft and gets good economy, but it definitely feels old, and it's expensive for what you get.

    The Sorento has a great engine (nice and punchy), but the ride is also way too soft for my tastes... giving it too much body roll and brake dive.

    The Santa Fe is better than any of these ladder-frame vehicles on-road, but the car-based chassis might not be the best choice for going off-road. But like I've said elsewhere, if your idea of off-road is a rutted farm road with merely half-foot deep ditches, then it'll do.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    why won't you get the 4x4 3.0 D4-D? it's the most powerful engine of the fortuner, and gives you the security of a full time 4x4. and from what my friends are saying, the 3.0 D4-D is more fuel efficient than the 2.5 D4-D fortuner. they have been getting 8-8.5 km/l light footed city driving, while i'm getting 7.1-7.2 km/l on my 2.5 D4-D fortuner light footed city driving

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    aw ... bat naman po mas maaksaya pa yung 2.5? nako interesting revelation ah pag totoo man.

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    it's because the engine's too underpowered for the Fortuner's almost 2 ton mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbah5 View Post
    why won't you get the 4x4 3.0 D4-D? it's the most powerful engine of the fortuner, and gives you the security of a full time 4x4. and from what my friends are saying, the 3.0 D4-D is more fuel efficient than the 2.5 D4-D fortuner. they have been getting 8-8.5 km/l light footed city driving, while i'm getting 7.1-7.2 km/l on my 2.5 D4-D fortuner light footed city driving
    It depends on the driver and the situation. During our time with it, I got 7 km/l in traffic, while Carlocaraddict got just 5 km/l in Makati.

    Unless you drive the same route, you can't compare consumption 1:1.

    But yes, it's kind of underpowered for the weight. Either you take your time acccelerating, or you put up with poor consumption.

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    If it's really a Toyota you want, I'd rather get the top-of-the-line Innova. But if you're willing to shop around, I've already enumerated your other choices.

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    no problem if yuo got the 2.5 fort..there are many ways to add some xtra power,,.my friend got one and we did some mods and it sure made a difference from a stock 2.5...

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    i think the fortuner 2.5d4d is not under powered but i think the only problem is that there are so many horror stories with that engine. i heard it was fixed already by toyota but there are still owners who said that they are still experiencing some problem with this engine. little advice, do more research about its engine and ask some owners about their experiences with this ride.
    and also with that money i opt to get the Hyundai SF 4x4, i think it has 2 airbags but the price is a little higher(its around 1.6M) but i believe the 200T difference between these two rides is worth the extra cash.

    Hi, did you eperince any problem with the suspesion of the SF? how old is it?

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    kung totoong 102hp nga, its a no brainer, klangan pa ba imemorize yan? sa laki ng body nya hindi na klanga i test drive. yes underpower yan! anong subje subjective?! underpower! go get the 3.0L

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    I'd be better off with the 2.7G as the powerplant, smoother engine too being gas.

    But really, it does depend on who is driving. A 2.5D4D will be a joy to drive for the soccer mom or 'pre-elderly' woman driver (like my mom) as far as fuel economy and runabout power is concerned. Oppositely, an aggressive guy with a lead foot would want more punch especially in overtaking. It can be frustrating

    Tires. The stock ones will serve you well and good but if you must get softer sidewalls for more cushion, I suggest not to go beyond the standard size since obviously, much meatier shoes will add to the acceleration lag that you may complain about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titan979 View Post
    Hi, did you eperince any problem with the suspesion of the SF? how old is it?
    no problem with our sf's suspension. its a year and 4 months old. drives like new parin.

    btw, we only got the 4x2 sf because we really dont need the 4x4 feature.

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    Get the 2.7G VVTi gas instead. Stronger engine, better acceleration, cheaper to maintain, quieter engine, less vibration, no reported engine defects, and importantly cleaner emission. Besides, diesel and gas have almost the same price sometimes unleaded gas is even cheaper.

    Btw I already got one, my FC mixed city and hi-way is 7.8 km/li.

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    in fact i agree it's subjective. for example my purpose of buying the 4x2 fort is space for family outings (long drives to Boracay), auto transmission for city driving and at the same time having a bit of prestige doing all these, but never intended for racing. it's more of a family and function car rolled into one. having experienced powerful machines abroad, this animal is not so boring afterall; given our road and traffic situation. perhaps when i finally retire and has to go to the farm often, then i would need a 4x4 (multicab? he,he,he).

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    Yesterday at Subic I saw a 2.5 D-4D Fortuner hauling 2 jet skis while (seemingly) comfortably cruising at about 60kph on a main road there . I don't know if jet skis are just light or actually heavy, but the fact that it can carry extra load can say that it might not be as underpowered as some of us here might think.

    Then again, though, I still prefer the 3.0 and 2.7 gas variants over this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrose View Post
    After all your feedback about my previous topic about on what SUV i will buy:

    hyundai Santafe 4x2 crdi - Ok na sana kaso 1 airbag only with the price of 1.5m+ i think not worth it.

    chevrolet Captiva 4x2 crdi - Ok din sana kaso 5 seaters lang although pwede palagyan ng 3rd row seats pero the problem would be aircondition na naman kasi kawawa naman mga nasa likod kung walang airvent. Pero yung price is worth it naman kasi 1.3m lang.

    Ford Everest - Ok price at 1.3m lang sa 4x2 a/t nila kaso di ko type itsura ...

    Toyota Fortuner 4x2 2.5 d4d - Sa tingin ko ito yung fit talaga sakin kasi 7 seaters sya tapos hindi problem aircon kasi may sariling aircon mga nasa 3rd row. Ang problem ko lang ay kung baka naman under power kasi pareho lang ng makina sa Innova and mas malaki pa ang fortuner. Although nakapag test drive na ako ng fortuner 4x2 diesel pero hindi ko naman mahataw kasi medyo traffic naman ... soo hihingi na lang aklo tulong sa mga may fortuner 4x2 2.5 d4d kung ano experience nyo. And the price is not bad at around 1.4m+.
    It's never underpowered; driven my mom's 4x2 fort at Gensan highway 135kph (na-overtake ko na strada, older model than triton of course) may ibubuga pa. all you have to do is press down the accelerator if you need to overtake. 'd reason why i replaced my '06sportivo to fort. medyo matagtag nga lang; for this i'll wait 2 years for the shocks to settle, if not maybe replace the rear with gas shocks. i'll follow the pattern of my getz: fluid sa harap, gas sa likod; swave sa lubaks.
    my apologies to new duratorque, mas responsive pa 4x2 fort.

Is 4x2 Fortuner 2.5 d4d underpower???