2021 Toyota Vios GR-S

**yapoy86** · March 11th, 2021 12:45 PM

siguro kung naka manual transmission ramdam yan increase in power.. pero kung CVT baka wala din.. sayang yung upgrade..

balik na lang ng toyota yung mga legendary engine nila from corolla.. yung black top, silver top.. hehe gusto ng mga tuners yan di ba

**Egan101** · March 11th, 2021 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by ice15

^adding a turbo will add power kaso halos engine lang matitira sa current set-up ng Vios -> too expensive for such a small market

reflashing the ECU to gain 5%hp towards the max RPM is technically free (it will look better on paper and guys buying the car will feel a bit better)

as I said, nothing against this model, I am a fan of skirts/spoilers as long as the car rolls out of the dealership with it (no outside mods for me)

New CVT is a nice step forward. Hope to see this new tranny in other variants of the Vios in the future.

Ford had proven that you can sell a small car with a turbocharged engine at the same price as the competition. The Fiesta Ecoboost was offered locally for around 5 years at the same price as a top-end Jazz/City/Vios.

The Fox 1.0L 3-cylinder turbo even offered better power and torque than 1.6L NA engines. Sadly, the dry-clutch DCT proved to be unreliable for some. Thank goodness my Fiesta Ecoboost didn’t give me problems when I owned it.

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**ice15** · March 11th, 2021 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Ford had proven that you can sell a small car with a turbocharged engine at the same price as the competition. The Fiesta Ecoboost was offered locally for around 5 years at the same price as a top-end Jazz/City/Vios.

The Fox 1.0L 3-cylinder turbo even offered better power and torque than 1.6L NA engines. Sadly, the dry-clutch DCT proved to be unreliable for some. Thank goodness my Fiesta Ecoboost didn’t give me problems when I owned it.

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agree... pero adding a Turbo will need a new intake and exhaust, new injectors, new radiator then you need to reflash the ECU

Reflashing the ECU alone (no other mods) will easily give them 5-8% better numbers which can be useful on paper (basically, "yabang lang sa mga bibili"

), at technically zero cost to them

The Vios OMR was sold at 1.4M, biggest difference was that it had a manual transmission.

Although I agree that using a manual transmission should have given the car a "sportier" feel compared to the "10 speed CVT," again its too much cost (for TMPC) to make the necessary mods.

Anyway, I'm not the market for this car and at 1M will probably add a bit to get the entry level Civic.

**hardwang** · March 11th, 2021 06:39 PM

When I was younger, I remember wanting body kits on a car. Maybe it was the influence from playing Need for Speed or Gran Turismo. So I installed body kits on our Lancer, thinking it was badass. Expectations were far from reality. They kept scraping and looked very beat up just after a year. After one nasty scrape, the front skirt came loose and dangled while the car was running. Sumasayad na sa daan. Ang ingay tapos pinagtitinginan ako. It was an embarrassing experience. After that, I just removed the body kits and swore never to install on any car.

**Yatta** · March 12th, 2021 09:27 AM

I have 2 officemates who each bought a Fortuner. One got the TOTL and the other the TRD version. The former then bought imitation body kits from Banawe and Lazada for a fraction of the cost from Toyota. At 20feet, they both look the same.

**Egan101** · March 12th, 2021 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Yatta

I have 2 officemates who each bought a Fortuner. One got the TOTL and the other the TRD version. The former then bought imitation body kits from Banawe and Lazada for a fraction of the cost from Toyota. At 20feet, they both look the same.

Walang basagan ng trip! I can’t understand people who has a hard-on for body kits. Hahahaha

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**dr. d** · March 12th, 2021 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Yatta

I have 2 officemates who each bought a Fortuner. One got the TOTL and the other the TRD version. The former then bought imitation body kits from Banawe and Lazada for a fraction of the cost from Toyota. At 20feet, they both look the same.

at kilatis distance,
do the cheaper add-ons look and feel cheap?

in my case kasi,
when i bolt on an add-on,
the most important target to impress is me-the-owner.

**ice15** · March 12th, 2021 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by hardwang

When I was younger, I remember wanting body kits on a car. Maybe it was the influence from playing Need for Speed or Gran Turismo. So I installed body kits on our Lancer, thinking it was badass. Expectations were far from reality. They kept scraping and looked very beat up just after a year. After one nasty scrape, the front skirt came loose and dangled while the car was running. Sumasayad na sa daan. Ang ingay tapos pinagtitinginan ako. It was an embarrassing experience. After that, I just removed the body kits and swore never to install on any car.

ganyan din ako nung early 2000s

ikot ikot for the right body kits/mags

fast forward to 20 years later. no mods outside the dealership except for the headunit (Android Auto/CarPlay is very important to me now)

as for the scrapping issue... sanay na ako to take care of the kits. in my head, may ibang cars na mas mababa talaga than the others (e.g. BMW and Audi) so regardless of what car I drive (except for Crossovers and SUVs), ingat talaga kapag nasa humps and slopes

**dr. d** · March 12th, 2021 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Walang basagan ng trip! I can’t understand people who has a hard-on for body kits. Hahahaha

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beauty is always in the ayes of the beholder.

**Yatta** · March 12th, 2021 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

at kilatis distance,
do the cheaper add-ons look and feel cheap?

in my case kasi,
when i bolt on an add-on,
the most important target to impress is me-the-owner.

It passes the 20 foot rule, so its good enough.