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    #221
    Quote Originally Posted by thearsenal1205 View Post
    is this came from a source inside TMP or a gray market importer?
    Owner of 2 of the dealerships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    I'm not actually convinced it's all-new. Maybe there's more than meets the eye, but if you've seen pics of the LC300 frame and the put it beside the LC200 they look almost identical. I understand the placement of the shock and spring has been altered at the rear for better geometry, but I 'm really not convinced.

    This sounds like the same BS Toyota was saying about the Supra not being a BMW at their launch event which nearly every journalist repeated like parrots, then when independent reviews came out it was very obviously a BMW with numerous BMW badges everywhere in the engine bay.
    Im not an engineer. But they did say in that public video it's built on the all new platform.

    200 kg lighter.

    Different welding process

    Engine location lower and more to the centerline

    Aluminum roof

    25% stiffer chassis


    They maintained the dimensions but its all new (i guess this is the contention)

    If you watch till the end, and the rally driver starts talking...its a whole new level of feeling and handling.



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    #223
    LC300 on the left, LC200 on the right.



    The 200 kg weight savings can come from something else. Aluminum roof, smaller gas tank, single piece tailgate, interior materials, smaller engine blocks. I believe it's a newer version of the LC200 frame, but I don't buy "all-new". IMO that's marketing speak.

    IMO we'll find out once the car is out in earnest and the aftermarket starts developing parts. I believe there will be plenty of parts that will be interchangeable between the 200 and the 300.

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    #224
    Am actually impressed w the diesel powerband.

    Compared to the 4.5 v8 this diesel will rev to 5k. And its got some oomph at the top end unlike the V8 which drops off after 2.5k....

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    #225
    Power curve attached. Very impressive for the diesel

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    #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    LC300 on the left, LC200 on the right.



    I believe it's a newer version of the LC200 frame, but I don't buy "all-new". IMO that's marketing speak.

    I believe there will be plenty of parts that will be interchangeable between the 200 and the 300.
    I disagree 100%. After-sales is a huge money maker. I'm sure the support for the LC200 will continue. but to keep the quality higher, the LC300 will have everything new as they've stated. Suspension + steering + safety equipment + controllers + sensors + brake system + hvac system.

    The only thing similar is the bolt pattern for the wheels.

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    #227
    This is a nice color:


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    #228
    Quote Originally Posted by 111prez View Post
    This is a nice color:

    The mothership has arrived, but I prefer the white.

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    #229
    TOYOTA LAND CRUISER | Direct Shift-10AT | Toyota - YouTube

    Video of how the new 10 speed auto works. Very informative.



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    TOYOTA LAND CRUISER | 3.5-liter Twin Turbo Engine | Toyota - YouTube

    This is a video on the 3.5 liter twin turbo Petrol engine. Again very informative. Shows how it was designed. There are graphic comparisons with the older LC200 5.7 petrol v8.

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