2020 Toyota Corolla Altis

[ice15]

Toyota Corolla Altis facelift has quietly made its way to PH | TopGear PH

[dr. d]

Toyota Corolla Altis facelift has quietly made its way to PH | TopGear PH

kung tahimik lang,
siguro borloloy upgrades and nothing for the more significant aspects...

[dr. d]

It looks like the facelifted Toyota Corolla Altis is on the way to PH | TopGear PH

i do not understand why the manufacturer favors the lower-profile tyres.
they're more difficult to maintain than higher-profile tyres, as they and their rims are more easily prone to damage when under-inflated.
"discomfort for the sake of seeming-sportiness" ?

[uls]

^^^

notice cars' OEM rims keep getting bigger

dati size 13, 14, 15

now size 16 to 18 is standard

so OEM tires usually lower profile

[travajante]

i do not understand why the manufacturer favors the lower-profile tyres.
they're more difficult to maintain than higher-profile tyres, as they and their rims are more easily prone to damage when under-inflated.
"discomfort for the sake of seeming-sportiness" ?

Why do women wear heels?[emoji16]

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[Shutterbug]

I like the front, more aggresive and sporty. Yung side profile, not so much.

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[travajante]

For us who tend grind our cars to the ground, would've preferred old school reliability over a few added MPGs via CVT. Granting they're now better than early versions, they're still the same intricate system of pulleys and belts working in a more synchronized way than regular ATs. More repeated movements of parts. More wear and tear quicker. More frequent CVT fluid changes. Good for short term service, not for keeps.[emoji53]


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[StockEngine]

adding the 1st gear improves their direct shift cvts reliability imo.

For us who tend grind our cars to the ground, would've preferred old school reliability over a few added MPGs via CVT. Granting they're now better than early versions, they're still the same intricate system of pulleys and belts working in a more synchronized way than regular ATs. More repeated movements of parts. More wear and tear quicker. More frequent CVT fluid changes. Good for short term service, not for keeps.[emoji53]


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[travajante]

adding the 1st gear improves their direct shift cvts reliability imo.

Should extend life expectancy, but the eventual end would still mean assembly swap, not rehab.

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[jut703]

For us who tend grind our cars to the ground, would've preferred old school reliability over a few added MPGs via CVT. Granting they're now better than early versions, they're still the same intricate system of pulleys and belts working in a more synchronized way than regular ATs. More repeated movements of parts. More wear and tear quicker. More frequent CVT fluid changes. Good for short term service, not for keeps.[emoji53]


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50,000 km and counting with my CVT and all good so far. CVTF change same as regular ATF (every 40k) with the same volume (4L). And this car isn't baby'ed at all. [emoji108]

Hoping for the same reliable performance for the next hundred thousand km. [emoji120]

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[travajante]

50,000 km and counting with my CVT and all good so far. CVTF change same as regular ATF (every 40k) with the same volume (4L). And this car isn't baby'ed at all. [emoji108]

Hoping for the same reliable performance for the next hundred thousand km. [emoji120]

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I wish the same, sir. Many keep their cars for less than a decade. CVTs maybe fine for that. We have a few running beyond 2...regular ATs.

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[jut703]

I wish the same, sir. Many keep their cars for less than a decade. CVTs maybe fine for that. We have a few running beyond 2...regular ATs.

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The oldest locally available CVT - the Cedia Lancer, still has a lot of units on the road. My cousin has an '03 Cedia, '05 GD Jazz, and '16 GM6 City and fortunately all these CVTs are still running well to this day.

Although of course there are a lot of horror stories on the Cedia and GD as well. But today's CVTs are a huge leap forward in terms of reliability and performance compared to these early models.

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[ronw123w124]

The oldest locally available CVT - the Cedia Lancer, still has a lot of units on the road. My cousin has an '03 Cedia, '05 GD Jazz, and '16 GM6 City and fortunately all these CVTs are still running well to this day.

Although of course there are a lot of horror stories on the Cedia and GD as well. But today's CVTs are a huge leap forward in terms of reliability and performance compared to these early models.

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Correct me if Im wrong, but most “horror” CVT issues that I know of is mostly attributed to using the wrong tranny fluid once it is due for a fluid flush, a lot of folks have put regular ATF on a CVT tranny, of course that will wreck havoc the tranny

[travajante]

The oldest locally available CVT - the Cedia Lancer, still has a lot of units on the road. My cousin has an '03 Cedia, '05 GD Jazz, and '16 GM6 City and fortunately all these CVTs are still running well to this day.

Although of course there are a lot of horror stories on the Cedia and GD as well. But today's CVTs are a huge leap forward in terms of reliability and performance compared to these early models.

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We can't deny how CVTs have evolved to be better....but we're not just limited to comparing current & past versions of it. There are more durable options.
The thing w/ CVTs is, once they go, they'll go hurting those who get hit badly. Total assembly swap.


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[chronicle]

The front looks aggressive.

While the sides look like its trying to be traditional corporate.

I still like it though.

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[sean-archer]

Not corolla's best rear for me.

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[kabute13]

parang A4 inspired yung front! hehehe

[travajante]

Mazda, Toyota break ground on new Alabama joint-venture plant - Roadshow

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[_Cathy_]

When will the 2020 Altis be available in the PH?

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[travajante]

I recall a Jalopnik article years back on the Corolla's secret success recipe.
Searched & found it.....
Here's why Travis Okulski thought the 2014 Corolla was perfect.....

"The Toyota Corolla didn't become one of the world's best selling cars by being daringly styled with cutting edge tech and amazing driving dynamics. It got to its lofty position by playing it safe and being boring.

And the 2014 Corolla plays it safe. It uses a platform that has been tried and tested and engines that have proven to be rock solid over hundreds of thousands of miles of use in highway and city driving. It's still cheap, it has a slightly more daring exterior and what seems to be a massively improved interior.

Sure, it's boring as sin to drive, but that's kind of the point. The rest of the world isn't like us. They don't have an obsession with cars or driving. If they did, the Mazda3 would be the best selling car in its class by the widest margin possible. Most people just want to get from Point A to Point B, and occasionally on the weekends Point C.

They don't care how the car feels to get there. They don't care about nicely weighted steering and I'm willing to bet they don't even care about how their car looks. Understand these people I do not.
What they do care about is saving money and reliability. The Toyota Corolla has been helping people do both of those things since sometime before the Revolutionary War. It's a formula that works, which is why Toyota sells nearly 300,000 Corollas in the USA each year.

If you sold at least 230,000 of something a year each year for the last 13, would you want to make a wholesale change to it? Of course not. You'd be an idiot to totally transform your product. You know what sells. Stick with it. If people cared about the Corolla being outdated, they wouldn't have bought 290,000 of them last year. 2012 was the Corollas best year since 2009. It's proof that Corolla buyers just want wheels to get around and nothing more. They're the majority of people.

Car obsessed people like us are a minority. A tiny, vocal minority. We care that the Corolla hasn't changed, but we're the only ones. What matters is what the people who buy it think, and they don't seem to think about cars a lot.

People who don't know about cars that have a Corolla are probably telling friends who also know nothing about cars that "their Corolla is great." And you know what? They're right. It is great. It gets them where they need to go with no worries and it runs for ages. It's a small initial expense that is reliable for ages. It is "car." It isn't special, but appliances aren't special.

Why buy a Sub Zero fridge when a Frigidaire does the same thing for far less money without frills you don't need? If you drive a Bentley to the mall or a Toyota to the mall, you'll still be at the mall when you get out of the car.

Toyota once tried to make an exciting Corolla. It was called the XRS and had the running gear of the Celica. It failed. And that's because nobody cared. They just wanted a Corolla for day-to-day, they didn't need to have fun while getting there. It was an affirmation of the purpose of the Corolla: Motoring appliance.

Just because a car isn't an enthusiast car doesn't mean it's a bad car. By all accounts, the Corolla is perfectly average in every way and will get you where you need to go. That's all a car needs to do and the Corolla will do that. You don't need more.

Toyota knows exactly what they're doing. And while critics are laughing at them and saying they screwed this car up, they'll be laughing all the way to the bank when they sell another 300,000 of them next year."

Seems like Toyota is bored w/ boring. Its current lineup has a Boxer in the 86, a Skyactiv in the iA, a Z4 in the Supra.
Hope the new sportier Corollas will sell as well or top the old boring.[emoji4]


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