From Top Gear PH 2016 Fortuner Price list
http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/car-n...r?ref=headline
Top of the line variant is 100k more expensive compare to its major rival.
From Top Gear PH 2016 Fortuner Price list
http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/car-n...r?ref=headline
Top of the line variant is 100k more expensive compare to its major rival.
I presume this is the G variant? Smaller Mag wheels is a big downgrade.
Should have been like this, same as the V variant.
But then again how can TMPI entice people to choke out for the V variants if everything is so similar to the G.
I think if sales turned sour, TMPI will change their attitude. The Everest, Mu-X, Montero are competent contenders so TMPI should not readily assume they will easily lord it out just like ten years ago.
Another boo-boo for Toyota is they failed to provide grab handles for second row passengers. Everest and New Montero has it.
Photo credits to Top Gear Phil.
I'd say that the lack of a sliding second row in the Everest is a much bigger oversight than the lack of handles on the Fortuner.
Nonetheless, the Everest really seems to be the best value in that price range with the Trend/Titanium, but I still find the rear quite iffy. Not as downright awful as the Montero's rear, but still awkward.
Also, the 2.2 feels labored with the heavy Everest, it really felt like I was driving a truck with a turbodiesel. The 2.4 felt very relaxed with the Hilux, I hope it stays as smooth with this heavier Fortuner.
I find that the Fortuner looks the best among the PPVs simply because it's the most subdued. This is a car that'll be sold for a decade, so it better not get old quickly.
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EDIT: The Everest doesn't tumble, but it slides. My bad.
Overall, I personally think the Everest 2.2 Titanium comes out the best buy with the most toys and good-enough aesthetics. However, it's 160k more expensive than the Fortuner G. That's enough to get HID (which the Everest doesn't have) and 20" rims, plus some change. Still none of the safety and convenience features of the Everest though, but it does look better in my eyes.
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Last edited by jut703; January 16th, 2016 at 11:01 PM.
Is that an AVT head unit I see in the new Fortuner? Someone, please tell me that I'm wrong.
Sorry jut. I have to disagree. I had the 2nd gen jazz which had all wheel disc brakes vs the 3rd gen jazz which has rear drum brakes. Brake fade is really noticeable after the 3rd or 4th hard braking action in the newest jazz. I lose confidence easily. The rear brakes still contribute to the overall braking power of the car. While the front is more important the rear still has a role to play.
This will be more pronounced in a bigger and heavier car (which is rear wheel drive most of the time). Not everyone drives fast. But there's a significant percentage of drivers who push their cars (you and me amongst them). Rear drum brakes don't help in those circumstances.
Rear brakes are still used as they wear out only slightly faster than the fronts. My sister has a 2007 forester with rear drums and the brakes can fade too. The feel of the brakes is quite rubbish too.
What i dont like is how they've skimped on so many features, some of which are legally required in some countries. Even the totl is feature scrimped compared to its rivals.
Braking power varies from car-to-car. This is actually all speculation until you really compare the Everest vs Fortuner vs Montero. A car with 4 wheel discs doesn't always have superior braking (Mazda 3 2.0R vs Altis G, 10th gen Altis V vs 11th gen Altis G). Our differing experience with 2 cars of succeeding generations further supports this point. Even if ceteris paribus, the overall braking power and longevity will be better in an all disc setup given the same car, these are 3 different SUVs and paper specs mean nothing.
So far among the 3, I've only driven the Everest, and it felt heavy under hard braking, much like a Land Cruiser. But it has noticeably improved braking distance compared to the Fortuner when it was first launched (the Fortuner facelifts had better braking power). Less nose dive compared to the outgoing Montero as well (a nod to its better balanced suspension).
Only definitive way to tell if the drums on the Fort will be a disadvantage is to actually drive it, and drive it hard.
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