2016 Toyota Fortuner

[funky_monkey]

Kelan kaya lalabas ng toyota ang pricing sa new model?

[JJB]

Can't wait for this. Kaso if I give in to my impulse and reserve one, baka marami pang problema ito just like when the 1st gen fortuner first came out.

I had the 1st gen fortuner when it came out. No problems naman whatoever til I sold it after several years. Very reliable. Though a few people had D4D problems daw but Toyota solved it fast.
But this time, I'm choosing between the 3 upcoming SUVs- fortuner 1st then everest then lastly MS

[jut703]

For those still caught up with rear drum brakes, try riding a bike. The front brakes are exponentially more effective than the rear (we just rarely use it because of the fear of endo).

And to those saying discs are better because they have better heat dissipation. I ask, when do you need repeated hard braking aside from a racetrack? If it's just one (or a few) instance(s) of full braking, the rear brakes won't heat up and lose effectiveness, even if they're drums.

You can say on a downhill (say, Kennon). Physics dictates that in such cases, it's still the front brakes that do almost all the braking. You should be more concerned about the strength and resistance to fade of your front brakes (not all discs are made the same).

But then again, it's so easy to generalize that discs > drums and drums are antiquated. Few bother to know why exactly discs are better, and how inconsequential this actually is in real world use.

[n_spinner06]

For those still caught up with rear drum brakes, try riding a bike. The front brakes are exponentially more effective than the rear (we just rarely use it because of the fear of endo).

And to those saying discs are better because they have better heat dissipation. I ask, when do you need repeated hard braking aside from a racetrack? If it's just one (or a few) instance(s) of full braking, the rear brakes won't heat up and lose effectiveness, even if they're drums.

You can say on a downhill (say, Kennon). Physics dictates that in such cases, it's still the front brakes that do almost all the braking. You should be more concerned about the strength and resistance to fade of your front brakes (not all discs are made the same).

But then again, it's so easy to generalize that discs > drums and drums are antiquated. Few bother to know why exactly discs are better, and how inconsequential this actually is in real world use.

A study was made once and the conclusion was that when it comes to disc vs drum brakes, there is a significant difference in braking distance when used on the front wheels. There is however negligible difference when used on the back. So a disc-disc config isn't really warranted on everyday driving as the disc-drum config is more than sufficient already. Diff story if resing-resing.

[jut703]

A study was made once and the conclusion was that when it comes to disc vs drum brakes, there is a significant difference in braking distance when used on the front wheels. There is however negligible difference when used on the back. So a disc-disc config isn't really warranted on everyday driving as the disc-drum config is more than sufficient already. Diff story if resing-resing.

Exactly my point. Which is why I wonder why there's so much fuss with a disc-drum setup.

[niky]

I haven't been in here for a while, but someone linked this on my FB feed.

-

As some of you older members may know, I do technical testing for the Car of the Year.

In my experience, over repeated, hard stops...

The Fortuner, with its puny disc-and-drum set-up, stops in a shorter distance than many of its rivals, and stops more consistently. This is measured by braking distances on the racetrack.

"More consistently" means that the Fort's brakes don't overheat over several full-bore 100-0 stops. They don't lose braking power as badly as some other trucks. They function perfectly fine. And better than some systems with four-wheel disc brakes.

-

The same can be said of the old Corolla with disc-and-drums.

-

Again: Rear drum/disc brake distinction means jack-**** in terms of braking power on an ordinary road car.

[vinj]

I haven't been in here for a while, but someone linked this on my FB feed.

-

As some of you older members may know, I do technical testing for the Car of the Year.

In my experience, over repeated, hard stops...

The Fortuner, with its puny disc-and-drum set-up, stops in a shorter distance than many of its rivals, and stops more consistently. This is measured by braking distances on the racetrack.

"More consistently" means that the Fort's brakes don't overheat over several full-bore 100-0 stops. They don't lose braking power as badly as some other trucks. They function perfectly fine. And better than some systems with four-wheel disc brakes.

-

The same can be said of the old Corolla with disc-and-drums.

-

Again: Rear drum/disc brake distinction means jack-**** in terms of braking power on an ordinary road car.

Noooooooooooooooo... you just ruined my car expert world!!!

[niky]

Noooooooooooooooo... you just ruined my car expert world!!!

Hehehe.

On performance cars... though... no way jose... disc and disc is the only way to go. Pedal feel suffers with drums.

But many trucks have such over-boosted, over-assisted braking systems, it makes no difference.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Noooooooooooooooo... you just ruined my car expert world!!!

Hehehe.

On performance cars... though... no way jose... disc and disc is the only way to go. Pedal feel suffers with drums.

But many trucks have such over-boosted, over-assisted braking systems, it makes no difference.

[dct]

I think meron naman talagang difference between the 2. Kaso for normal usage, wala. Di masyadong ramdam. Oa lang mga tao. Parang hp lang yan. Pag medyo mababa hp ng new release car sinsabi under powered. Pero more than enough na talaga sya. Mukha lang under powered dahil mas mataas hp ng competitor. Just like this. Dahil naka disc-disc ang competitor

[Challenger75]

IIRC, the issue back then with gen1 was the front discs being too small. FCP guys would recommend upgrading the front to bigger discs than touching the drums if you wanted greater stopping power. Heck I think someone even did a cross-drilled disc upgrade, but didn't even touch the rear drums.

[maverick74]

Dahil naka disc brake sa likod malakas na ang hp. Lol

[frostmourn]

Coz disc breaks has ABS. Big period on this matter. 2016 fortuner ang topic napunta sa preno. Hehe

[yapoy86]

Coz disc breaks has ABS. Big period on this matter. 2016 fortuner ang topic napunta sa preno. Hehe

Mali pa spelling...."brakes" and not "breaks". And not because equipped with disc brakes does not mean you also have ABS.. some disc-drum setup can be equipped with ABS.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Coz disc breaks has ABS. Big period on this matter. 2016 fortuner ang topic napunta sa preno. Hehe

Mali pa spelling...."brakes" and not "breaks". And not because equipped with disc brakes does not mean you also have ABS.. some disc-drum setup can be equipped with ABS.

[frostmourn]

Mali pa spelling...."brakes" and not "breaks". And not because equipped with disc brakes does not mean you also have ABS.. some disc-drum setup can be equipped with ABS.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -



Mali pa spelling...."brakes" and not "breaks". And not because equipped with disc brakes does not mean you also have ABS.. some disc-drum setup can be equipped with ABS.

Haha was referring to brake. Lol this auto correct feature s*cks! Btw. Only some of them. Dont know if drum of fort has ABS? Current model of fort is still equipped with rear drum. I was just thinking why car companies are using disc if drum is way better. Just my idea tho. Just share your knowledge and dont react as if you can differentiate the two. You just said where heck did you get that. On the net. Blah blah. But still you are using the net to search for those things. Too bad. You are pointing to yourself.

[ClaNker]

Absolute idiocy tong Drum vs Disk argument ninyo. Drum brakes are cheaper to manufacture so mas malaki ang tubo tapos ang usupan. Toyota fanboys nga naman oo.

Now back to the truck.

[dr. d]

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Absolute idiocy tong Drum vs Disk argument ninyo. Drum brakes are cheaper to manufacture so mas malaki ang tubo tapos ang usupan. Toyota fanboys nga naman oo.

Now back to the truck.

errr... those brakes are part of the truck.
but, i get your meaning.
back to the truck!

[niky]

Coz disc breaks has ABS. Big period on this matter. 2016 fortuner ang topic napunta sa preno. Hehe

You don't need disc brakes to have ABS.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Coz disc breaks has ABS. Big period on this matter. 2016 fortuner ang topic napunta sa preno. Hehe

You don't need disc brakes to have ABS.

[playplugg]

Regarding Sa Difference Between Disc/Drum and All Disc Brakes..

Same naman pag dating sa braking capabilities...

ang disadvantage kasi ng rear drum brakes, once na nababad sa baha or driving in rainy condition, mas mahaba ang braking distance..


Kung purely city driving at stop and go traffic, disc-drum brakes,

kung highway driving at long distance, all disc brakes..


Kahit merong ABS-EBD or Hindi equipped...

kung reckless driving or hindi maintained properly ang sasakyan pag dating sa braking system..
meron po talagang kalalagyan... (right here waiting funeral---- lola nidora...hehehe )

[DacoTyan]

Regarding Sa Difference Between Disc/Drum and All Disc Brakes..

Same naman pag dating sa braking capabilities...

ang disadvantage kasi ng rear drum brakes, once na nababad sa baha or driving in rainy condition, mas mahaba ang braking distance..


Kung purely city driving at stop and go traffic, disc-drum brakes,

kung highway driving at long distance, all disc brakes..


Kahit merong ABS-EBD or Hindi equipped...

kung reckless driving or hindi maintained properly ang sasakyan pag dating sa braking system..
meron po talagang kalalagyan... (right here waiting funeral---- lola nidora...hehehe )

Disc brakes will also have longer stopping distance if it was immersed in water.

[rey752]

Disc Brakes? Drum Brakes? I have no idea about them haha,the only thing I know that most cars with disc and disc brakes config are those top of the highest line haha and most of them ay ung "May Tinatagong Bilis". Most ng nakikita kong disc and disc ung Honda Tsibik,tas na try kong sumakay Kay classmate kung pwede lang mang hingi ng extra seat belt ginawa ko na, 😂😂