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    After changing my oil in the casa, they recommended replacing the lower RHS control arm. I asked why, they said they found a tiny hole on one rubber boot. Replacing it would cost me P7800.

    My question is, do I really need to change the entire lower arm just for this tiny hole, or are there any other remedies to fix that hole? Maybe refilling the grease and sealing the hole or something. Any experience guys?


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    ^sa casa kasi assembly ang palitan.
    try mo sa exalta banawe if sa qc area ka
    if not, pakita mo nalang sa suspension experts near your area
    baka wala pa 1.5k yan including labor

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    After changing my oil in the casa, they recommended replacing the lower RHS control arm. I asked why, they said they found a tiny hole on one rubber boot. Replacing it would cost me P7800.

    My question is, do I really need to change the entire lower arm just for this tiny hole, or are there any other remedies to fix that hole? Maybe refilling the grease and sealing the hole or something. Any experience guys?


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    what car is that?
    first time i see a boot in that area...
    is it really a boot?

    but if it is really a boot, it does not look fix-able.
    replace lang yata.
    but i do not know if you can get the boot-only replacement part.

    when we were younger,
    we would wrap the entire joint in plastic, to prevent dust and water from entering...
    Last edited by dr. d; March 12th, 2020 at 02:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    ^sa casa kasi assembly ang palitan.
    try mo sa exalta banawe if sa qc area ka
    if not, pakita mo nalang sa suspension experts near your area
    baka wala pa 1.5k yan including labor
    Yes, I’m planning to do that. But I’d like to know if tama ba gagawin nila etc,


    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    what car is that?
    first time i see a boot in that area...
    is it really a boot?

    but if it is really a boot, it does not look fix-able.
    replace lang yata.
    but i do not know if you can get the boot-only replacement part.

    when we were younger,
    we would wrap the entire joint in plastic, to prevent dust and water from entering...
    Yung sa dulo ng lower arm, sa may gulong na banda. Yung Focus pa rin to. After maayos na ang shock absorber, ito na naman ang problema haha

    Baka may ingenious solution yung iba. Hirap kasi papalitan agad yung lower control arm just for that.

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    ball joint or stab link siguro bro
    naka zoom in masyado eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjababez View Post
    ball joint or stab link siguro bro
    naka zoom in masyado eh

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    Mazford na lng mga 1500 siguro yan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post

    Baka may ingenious solution yung iba. Hirap kasi papalitan agad yung lower control arm just for that.
    the rubber boot has no structural function.
    the objective of the rubber boot, is to protect the metal parts of the joint from rusting or wearing out faster than it normally does.
    if the joint is still good, i.e., no noise or excessive free play, then you can go on using it, as is.
    you can replace it when it starts acting up (above).

    kasi, my suspicion is, you can not replace that boot. you have to replace the entire assembly.
    might as well maximize it, before replacing it.

    good luck.
    tell us what happens.

    and yes. the un-zoomed picture is much better.

    in the past,
    we have continued using the joint, even if the rubber boot had already torn.
    tumatagal naman yung joint, before it starts acting up. something like a year... maybe more...
    Last edited by dr. d; March 12th, 2020 at 02:52 PM.

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    inject grease inside the boot. then patch the hole w/ a bicycle tube patch. get a small and flexible one like Maruni

    but that's just delaying the inevitable

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    I thought I'd address the 2nd elephant in the room.... why is the hub assembly and lower arm soaking in oil? Is the strut/damper leaking as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    I thought I'd address the 2nd elephant in the room.... why is the hub assembly and lower arm soaking in oil? Is the strut/damper leaking as well?
    the clamp is dry...
    dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oj88 View Post
    I thought I'd address the 2nd elephant in the room.... why is the hub assembly and lower arm soaking in oil? Is the strut/damper leaking as well?
    Kakapalit lang ng shock absorber na nag leak sa side na yan. The mechanic probably didn't bother to clean it up. Soaked nga din yung rubber ng cv joint. Pa check ko pa ulit kung may leak.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    inject grease inside the boot. then patch the hole w/ a bicycle tube patch. get a small and flexible one like Maruni

    but that's just delaying the inevitable
    Thanks for the suggestion. Naisip ko din yun. Will probably try something like that. Kung wala talaga, tama si dr, baka hayaan na lang hanggang may tunog na, then replace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion. Naisip ko din yun. Will probably try something like that. Kung wala talaga, tama si dr, baka hayaan na lang hanggang may tunog na, then replace.
    Surface must be oil/grease free. Using something like the Bailcast split CV Boot glue might be better.
    Universal CV Boots

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Kakapalit lang ng shock absorber na nag leak sa side na yan. The mechanic probably didn't bother to clean it up. Soaked nga din yung rubber ng cv joint. Pa check ko pa ulit kung may leak.

    That looks like a ball joint boot; it prevents dust and water getting into the joint. If the joint is still in good condition, replacing just its boot is a nice option. You can try 'em mechanic guys in Banawe as they might just find a boot from a recovered joint.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamTracker View Post
    That looks like a ball joint boot; it prevents dust and water getting into the joint. If the joint is still in good condition, replacing just its boot is a nice option. You can try 'em mechanic guys in Banawe as they might just find a boot from a recovered joint.

    Cheers!
    most of these boots are not cheap to replace.
    while the rubber boot itself might cost only so much, the labor involved might cost more than the part being replaced. babaklasin kasi yung buong dulo...
    as i recall, the classic VW air-cooled axle boot was designed for ease of replacement. it had a longitudinal opening that is closed in place by multiple bolts and nuts. parang butones ng polo shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    as i recall, the classic VW air-cooled axle boot was designed for ease of replacement. it had a longitudinal opening that is closed in place by multiple bolts and nuts. parang butones ng polo shirt.
    Those days....Those cars....Dealership survival wasn't conceived/schemed yet, doc.[emoji4]
    Look at them today....mod a lil, miss a PMS, void the warranty. Electronics, diagnostics, Make-badged lubes/fluids, CVT, planned obsolescence.....so many tricks up their sleeves. Cars are no different from cellphones now.[emoji16]


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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Those days....Those cars....Dealership survival wasn't conceived/schemed yet, doc.[emoji4]
    Look at them today....mod a lil, miss a PMS, void the warranty. Electronics, diagnostics, Make-badged lubes/fluids, CVT, planned obsolescence.....so many tricks up their sleeves. Cars are no different from cellphones now.[emoji16]


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    planned obsolescence and "no owner-serviceable parts inside"..

    i wonder...
    if the tata nano were marketed here, at may aircon,
    will it click?

    ...is the suzuki expresso on display somewhere, for costumer-perusing?
    Last edited by dr. d; March 13th, 2020 at 10:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    planned obsolescence and "no owner-serviceable parts inside"..

    i wonder...
    if the tata nano were marketed here, at may aircon,
    will it click?

    ...is the suzuki expresso on display somewhere, for costumer-perusing?

    pinoys would call it the tata u-nano would fail for the same reason it failed in india, pinoys wouldn't want to be seen driving a "cheap" car they'd rather buy a used car instead

    speaking of spresso i think i wanna check it out later at a local dealership...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardwang View Post
    Kakapalit lang ng shock absorber na nag leak sa side na yan. The mechanic probably didn't bother to clean it up. Soaked nga din yung rubber ng cv joint. Pa check ko pa ulit kung may leak.
    Ah, question answered. It's a familiar sight kasi because it's happened to me before.

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