Stainless Steel braided brake hoses

[paolorenzo]

Are these worth the upgrade? Without changing rotors or pads, will there be a noticeable difference? Appreciate your advice guys...

[jakewise]

You might want to read this: http://www.revingtontr.com/shop/downloads/IS0026.pdf

[paolorenzo]

Thanks sir. Makes sense, but I was also hoping for insights from actual converts. If there is a noticeable gain in stopping power. I'm not sure if the article is from an independent source, or sells these hoses?

I'm upgrading to drilled and slotted rotors, plus ceramic pads. However I read some online advice on these SS brake lines, which led me to start this thread.

[monty_GTV]

hi mga paps, besides the brake hoses, anong mai-recommend niyo na brand ng drilled/slotted brake rotors recommended para sa suv like Montero. preferably bigger than the oem. TIA

[jakewise]

Stainless steel brake lines improve pedal feel and reduce the amount of time between applied pedal pressure and actual deceleration by preventing expansion, which stock rubber lines allow. So categorically, stopping power is not only determined by the SS brake lines but an upgrade in your braking system as well, like increasing the size of your calipers of which I can attest personally will give you a noticeable increase in stopping power

[tip_tipid]

stopping distance will depend greatly on your tires, if it slide or not.

[D3nb3r]

There are a lot of factors playing when we discuss braking. Type of tire rubbers, tread wear, tire pressure tire dimensions, brake pads, rotor disc or drums in some cars, weight of the car, ground clearance and center of gravity. But para sa tanong nang TS, it will be an upgrade and it will improve your brake system.

[foresterx]

hi mga paps, besides the brake hoses, anong mai-recommend niyo na brand ng drilled/slotted brake rotors recommended para sa suv like Montero. preferably bigger than the oem. TIA

why waste money on something you don't need? pads, hose, brake fluid and better tires is all you'll need unless you track your car then that's the time you'll only need a drilled/slotted rotor. anyway if you still want one get a slotted rotor since a lot of drilled rotors tend to crack after some time.

[yebo]

What is the car ba? Formula 1, or some kind of exotic sports car that you race? Baka naman altis or civic lang yan e hindi na kelangan mga ganyan.

The brake hoses are too short, only less than 4 feet in total length, and with so small internal diameter that you would feel any difference. How sensitive is your feet ba that you can feel an additional 0.1 cubic centimeter of expansion? Pure BS! Waste of money lang yan.

[Lew_Alcindor]

brake hose is the last thing would think of when you want to improve braking.

huwag niyo painitin ulo ng mga bossing dito hahaha

[niky]

Stainless steel brake lines are useless until you change everything else.

Or more specifically: I used to run slotted rotors, high-heat brake pads, DOT4 fluid and stainless brake lines on my car.

Had a pad change once, couldn't get the pads I liked (Hawk), so had to settle for local pads, in the meantime. The braking was crap. Fad resistance was crap. Far before you ever got to the point where the brake fluid started heating up and those fancy stainless lines started earning their pay, the pads would give up the ghost.

And this goes for any street driven car. Your tires, brake pads and brake fluid will all go far south before your rubber brake lines start becoming a problem.

Stainless steel braided lines DO help. They help if you've got a car running aggressive rubber and brakes and you are doing a competitive twenty or thirty lap race on the track. One where you need to go from 160-200 km/h down to about 80-100 at the end of the main straight lap-after-lap-after-lap (Subic was the worst... 160+++ down to a freaking 180 degree hairpin! I've seen a lot of brakes catch fire there... ) On the streets, you will either get yourself killed or in really, really big trouble long before the lines make a difference.

If you want a brake upgrade, upgrade your fluid, change your pads for something better, and get some real rubber at those corners. For most spirited driving, this is more than enough. And if you plan to do the type of driving on the streets that actually requires the lines, may God have mercy on your soul. Because that tree up ahead won't.

[paolorenzo]

It's a 15+ year old CRV. Rotors are damaged and need replacing. The price of refacing or replacing isn't very much cheaper than slotted rotors and ceramic brake pads online. And since I'm already doing that upgrade, it only makes sense (at least for me) to also consider the brake line upgrade.

So for me, it isn't BS. Thanks for your insight. I'll ask the mechanic if hoses can still endure another 5 years.

[foresterx]

It's a 15+ year old CRV. Rotors are damaged and need replacing. The price of refacing or replacing isn't very much cheaper than slotted rotors and ceramic brake pads online. And since I'm already doing that upgrade, it only makes sense (at least for me) to also consider the brake line upgrade.

So for me, it isn't BS. Thanks for your insight. I'll ask the mechanic if hoses can still endure another 5 years.

just get a regular rotor, no need to pay more for a slotted rotor which you won't ever need. i doubt anyone tracks their CRV so just save your money and get a regular rotor.

[yebo]

CRV pala.

Too slow, este too short! Too short!

[miked]

last brake R&R ko sa kabayo ko e brake hose (4 hoses), master cylinder tsaka LSPV. nagimprove ang braking action (nabawasan ang spongy feel). ang problema ko na lang ngayon e kung pano maeliminate yung flexing ng firewall. biruin mo, pinaapak ko lang sa misis ko yung brake pedal e halatang gumagalaw yung master cylinder assembly.

kung daily driver lang naman at no need bilang performance race car e stock specs ka na lang...set aside mo na lang yung extra cost for other maintenance ng sasakyan. pero kung wala ka magawa sa pera (no offense meant), e di ikaw pa rin masusunod. btw, it's your money.

bit OT here pero eto napansin ko. sa mga sedan na nadrive ko (accent, lancer, etc) e mas matigas ang pedal feel tsaka mas maaga ang braking action while sa mga LSPV equipped na vehicles (pickups, innova) e mas spongy ang feeling. naiinis nga mga pasahero ko (tsaka ako na rin) kapag kotse ang dinadrive ko dahil kaunting apak ko lang e talaga namang nagda-dive kami sa sasakyan. mas maraming apak ang kelangan ko bago ako mafamiliarize sa brake pedal sensitivity ng mga sedan kesa sa mga pickup, van, auvs. sa aking obserbasyon at experience lang naman.

[enzo6k]

last brake R&R ko sa kabayo ko e brake hose (4 hoses), master cylinder tsaka LSPV. nagimprove ang braking action (nabawasan ang spongy feel). ang problema ko na lang ngayon e kung pano maeliminate yung flexing ng firewall. biruin mo, pinaapak ko lang sa misis ko yung brake pedal e halatang gumagalaw yung master cylinder assembly.

meron bracket para dyan, hindi ko lang alam kung san may nabibili dito, kasi naghahanap din ako hehe

[niky]

Some Miata owners weld in a plate to the firewall to reinforce it around the master cylinder. But that bracket looks like a more elegant solution.

It's a 15+ year old CRV. Rotors are damaged and need replacing. The price of refacing or replacing isn't very much cheaper than slotted rotors and ceramic brake pads online. And since I'm already doing that upgrade, it only makes sense (at least for me) to also consider the brake line upgrade.

So for me, it isn't BS. Thanks for your insight. I'll ask the mechanic if hoses can still endure another 5 years.

For your use, it isn't worth it. Brand new rubber lines will last the rest of the usable life of the car.

Buy new (regular) rotors, flush the system, upgrade to better brake pads (up front). That's all you'll ever need on a CR-V. It doesn't have nearly half enough mechanical grip or braking performance to need stainless lines.

Even worse, an excessive crimp in one of the lines, or rubbing against something (like the bracket they typically slot through on the suspension upright), can actually cause extra wear to the rubber hose inside, causing leaks and sudden failures. A brand new rubber line has no such problems.

In other words... if you ain't racing, stick to rubber lines. Like I've said: STAINLESS ONLY MAKES SENSE IF EVERYTHING ELSE IS UPGRADED. Stainless lines alone do absolute dip for an otherwise completely stock braking system.