Matagtag na ride.

[ironvin]

Hi, 1st gen Mitsu Advie auto ko.

Ganun ba talaga siya ka tagtag? last year nag palit ako ng shock absorber sa likod, KYB Gas type.
Any tips para ma-lessen yung tagtag, madalas po kasi ako lang gumagamit, tsaka kahit apat na pasahero ko inside matagtag parin.

[cocoy]

since its a first gen advie.. the suspension could be weak already and is bottoming out thats why its having a rough ride..

[dr. d]

Hi, 1st gen Mitsu Advie auto ko.

Ganun ba talaga siya ka tagtag? last year nag palit ako ng shock absorber sa likod, KYB Gas type.
Any tips para ma-lessen yung tagtag, madalas po kasi ako lang gumagamit, tsaka kahit apat na pasahero ko inside matagtag parin.

i also experienced rough ride when i replaced my innova's front and rear shocks with kybs.. but it softened down after a short while.
i used the cheaper ones. i wonder... would it have been a smoother result had i opted for the more expensive kybs?
is it possible, i was given fakes?

[jick.cejoco]

start with the tires, make sure your tires are inflated to the right pressure and are the right type and load range. don't use LT tires (light truck)
next, see if you have 50/50 shocks (the first number is jounce or compression when you hit bumps, the second number is for rebound or recovery after hitting bumps). if the the shock absorber is 70/30, you what it means
next, check that your unsprung weight is not too heavy. this is the weight that is not supported by the spring (the tire, hub and spindle, brakes, the struts and the control arms and that the wheels are not too heavy)
if your tires are lower in profile or aspect ratio than the original designed tires, it sure will ride a little bit rough

[jaypee10]

ilang taon ba or ilang kilometers bago mag palit ng shocks.

tanong lang po

[dr. d]

ilang taon ba or ilang kilometers bago mag palit ng shocks.

tanong lang po

well, mine lasted 85K...

[meledson]

Leaf springs? if yes, most of the time matagtag talaga lalo na pag mga 1 or 2 lang ang sakay, matibay naman.

[red_one]

Experts recommend replacing shocks every 50,000 miles (80,467 kilometers), but a great deal depends on how you treat your vehicle's suspension. Are you logging all those miles on the placid interstate, or are you off-roading on winding dirt roads through the untamed wild? Well, before that point, unusual suspension noises or excessive bounce or sway may indicate it's time to replace those shocks.

HowStuffWorks "How long do car shocks last?"

[innova2013]

i also experienced rough ride when i replaced my innova's front and rear shocks with kybs.. but it softened down after a short while.
i used the cheaper ones. i wonder... would it have been a smoother result had i opted for the more expensive kybs?
is it possible, i was given fakes?

if its stiffer than the OEM sir, your KYB's are orig.

Tokico is the OEM shocks of innova. cmiiw

[dr. d]

if its stiffer than the OEM sir, your KYB's are orig.

Tokico is the OEM shocks of innova. cmiiw

hah! mas matigas nga... akala ko baka na-denggoy ako... salamat po!

[jresperanza]

hah! mas matigas nga... akala ko baka na-denggoy ako... salamat po!

pasensya na po, pero ano po ba talaga ibig sabihin ng "matagtag"?

yun ba iyong matalbog ang paliramdam o yun ba yung kada sira ng daan ay nararamdaman ng pasahero?

[dr. d]

pasensya na po, pero ano po ba talaga ibig sabihin ng "matagtag"?

yun ba iyong matalbog ang paliramdam o yun ba yung kada sira ng daan ay nararamdaman ng pasahero?

matagtag.
yung pangalawa, siguro.
lahat nang sira ng daan ay ramdam na ramdam to the bones.
pag may hump ay feel na feel ang humps. at pag may crater sa daan ay feel na feel nyo.

parang naka-bisikletang pang-karera kayo.
lahat nang sira ng daan ay ramdam na ramdam nyo.

yung matalbog ang pakiramdam,
para sa akin ay ubos na ang shock absorber nyo.
parang nag-di-dribble ang sasakyan pag dumaan sa humps.

[monty_GTV]

agree with doc, matagtag means ramdam yung tigas ng bagsak, maiksi ang baon ng suspension o kulang sa sag. matalbog kung sa ingles ay bouncy naman, mabagal ang rebound o pagbalik ng suspension. parehong nakakapagod sa pasahero lalo sa mga nasa likod. not much sa driver though

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[dr. d]

parehong nakakapagod sa pasahero lalo sa mga nasa likod. not much sa driver though

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what some drivers may not realize, especially if they do mostly driving and minimal passengering,
is that the pasaheros behind the driver usually feel the shocks more acutely than the driver.
this is because the driver's seat is nearer the center between the front and the rear tires.
if one looks at the sedan/hatch/auv/mpf/suv from the side, one will notice that the rear seat is almost above the rear tires.

[Miles_on]

Given our HORRIBLE roads, its a wonder our cars here don't fall apart sooner than their designed lifespans.

3rd world na 3rd world talaga. Here, masaya na tayo if kahit papaano patag na yung daan, and kahit patag na walang lubak (may mga recessed manhole covers naman... [yung rectangular concrete ones], gaps in between concrete slabs etc. na tatalbog ka pa rin sa kotse mo.

In the rare instance na matino yung daan, nilalagyan naman ng (illegal) na speed hump na sobrang "tulis"na panira rin lang ng sasakyan. Minsan wala pang visible paint markers yung humps kaya pag gabi magugulat ka na lang...

[dr. d]

In the rare instance na matino yung daan, nilalagyan naman ng (illegal) na speed hump na sobrang "tulis"na panira rin lang ng sasakyan. Minsan wala pang visible paint markers yung humps kaya pag gabi magugulat ka na lang...

many years ago,
there was this un-announced hump in green meadows, that i drove over at speed.
"my exhaust system fell down, held up only by the exhaust manifold".
ginapos ko na lang ng alambre, para maka uwi.

i used to drive around in my ex-taxi car, with a small roll of alambre and duct tape, for justin.

[ice15]

Given our HORRIBLE roads, its a wonder our cars here don't fall apart sooner than their designed lifespans.

agree... I used to follow a 100K kms rule to replace my suspension when I was overseas.

I think di sya applicable here sa Pinas

[yubby24]

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but my concern is related to the subject.

Yesterday, my wife said parang matagtag na raw yung sasakyan namin. Mas ramdam na raw nya yung mga lubak na nadadaanan namin compared dati. My question is, how long before you replace the shock absorbers given the harsh condition of our roads here in the metro? Our car (mobilio) is already 6 years old with 67k odo reading.