jazz sways over road bumps

[magilas_316]

recently bought a 2006 jazz. naka lowering springs sa harap and stock height sa rear. napapansin ko lang is everytime na napapadaan ko sa mga bumps sa kalsada eh nag sway ung oto sideways(not sure kung eto tamang term). usually naman ang takbo ko lang is 60-80 km/hr pero meron pa rin swaying. may mga katanungan lang po ko.

1) normal po ba ito sa naka lowering springs? 1st time to own a lowered car kaya di ko alam.
2) may problem kaya sa suspension ko?
3) kung may problem man sa suspension, ano po kaya mga possible na pwede ko pa check.

thank you in advance po sa mga mag rereply.

[ericbalajadia]

It's not normal for any car to behave like that, lowering springs or not. Definitely, the suspension has a problem and should be checked at once. Suspects are suspension bushings, bearings, joints, tie rod & rack ends, shock mounts.

[CivicVTi]

Also have a 4-wheel laser wheel alignment. My brother-in-law once bought a 2nd hand Corolla GLi. When I drove it, the rear wheels swayed when I applied the brakes even on a perfectly paved road. Turned out that the right rear wheel was mis-alligned. After undergoing a wheel alignment, the swaying was gone.

[magilas_316]

dami pala i pacheck. but will do un mga suggestions nyo mga sirs. mileage nung oto ng kinuha ko is 42k pa lang. di ba napaka aga naman masira ng mga pang ilalaim na parts nya kung sakali un nga culprit ng swaying? ano kaya possible cause ng early damage sa suspension?

i had a 2000 city type z before. inabot ng mga 150k mileage bago ko nag paayos ng pang ilalim. all stock nga lang cya. Alam ko na drive na to(jazz 06) sa subic track day once, pero i doubt kung un naging cause ng sira sa suspension.

many thanks..

[ericbalajadia]

Ganun talaga eh. There really is no sure way to guarantee the useful lifetime of a part. Premature damage can be caused by a lot of factors such as the kinds of roads you drive on, the way you drive and besides, parts are known to be sometimes defective or badly manufactured from the start. They call it the Friday Batch; parts assemblers that were so eager to go home on a Friday they do a sloppy work on them.
Most of today's components are sealed-type, meaning you can not grease them during their service. Some innovative shops that repair suspension parts will put grease fitting on them for later maintenance.
The parts and repair cited here are just examples of what could be wrong and do not necessarily mean that all of them are.

[magilas_316]

thank you sir eric. napaka informative nung reply mo. nadagdagan un vocabulary ko dun sa "Friday Batch". hehe.

aniway, folllow up question lang po. un cruven ba kasama dun sa sinabi nyo na "innovative shops that repair suspension parts"? may nakita ko dito samin sa fairview kaso im not familiar with the company. i heard lang is that they repair worn out shocks. any feedback on them? thanks again!

[ericbalajadia]

ok naman sila. they have a branch here in makati and we use them sometimes lalo pag nagtitipid customers namin. Minsan, pinapadala nila customers nila dito for alignment after their repair.They repair suspension parts and even fabricate bushings and supports. Pero syempre, all will boil down to diagnosis. Kahit maganda repair nila sa ball joint eh kung di naman dun nanggagaling ang ingay, useless din.

[magilas_316]

pinagawa ko sa servitek un oto kahapon. pina allign ko na muna since kapapalit ko rin ng rims. according sa mechanic, naka toe out un front wheels. binanggit ko un swaying sa road bumps, sabi nya obserbahan ko muna after ng allignment. drove the car from fairview to roxas blvd, laki ng improvement pero meron pa rin konting swaying. no problem naman sa cornering, pero pag nadaaan talaga sa bumps kahit nasa straight line ramdam ung sway. buti ngayon nabawasan. pacheck ko n lang ulit cguro sa kanila suspension.

[ghosthunter]

recently bought a 2006 jazz. naka lowering springs sa harap and stock height sa rear.

Naka-tukod look ba?

[magilas_316]

hindi naman po sir ghosthunter. konti lang binaba ng harap from stock, parang pumarehas ung fender gap nya tulad sa rear.

[gray77]

try nyo sa cruven..i am a regular client nila...so far ayos nmn service nila skin...

[mazingerZ]

did you check kung putol ang springs? Maybe that attributes to the bouncy ride. restore mo na lang ang OEM na suspension.

[magilas_316]

try nyo sa cruven..i am a regular client nila...so far ayos nmn service nila skin...

thank you sa feedback. meron dito samin malapit. will try to check them out. pa check ko na cguro lahat ng suspension parts.

did you check kung putol ang springs? Maybe that attributes to the bouncy ride. restore mo na lang ang OEM na suspension.

naka lowerings po talaga sa harap. i even have ung rear lowerings na kasama nya. ang pinag iicipan ko nga kung ibalik ko sa stock height o ipakabit ko na din lowering springs sa likod. will wait na lang cguro sa sugestion ng mag check ng suspension..

thank you again sa replies....

[paolorenzo]

did you check kung putol ang springs? Maybe that attributes to the bouncy ride. restore mo na lang ang OEM na suspension.

Agree ako dito sir. Back to stock na lang muna sir. Kung putol lang ang ginawa for lowering, baka ito ang cause nung swaying...

[gray77]

tama, dapat pacheck mu na car mo, para ndi na madagdagan pa ang gastos mo..tried and tested q na ang cruven, the best!!!

[ben_david19]

dami pala i pacheck. but will do un mga suggestions nyo mga sirs. mileage nung oto ng kinuha ko is 42k pa lang. di ba napaka aga naman masira ng mga pang ilalaim na parts nya kung sakali un nga culprit ng swaying? ano kaya possible cause ng early damage sa suspension?

i had a 2000 city type z before. inabot ng mga 150k mileage bago ko nag paayos ng pang ilalim. all stock nga lang cya. Alam ko na drive na to(jazz 06) sa subic track day once, pero i doubt kung un naging cause ng sira sa suspension.

many thanks..

kahit less than 5k odo, pwedeng bumigay ang suspensions. it all depends on the driving at mga dinadaanan ng sasakyan. kahit nga paglabas palang ng casa brand new tapos na-pothole ka ng malaki habang tumatakbo ng mabilis, pwedeng mawala kaagad sa alignment auto mo.

[ghosthunter]

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[ericbalajadia]

Seems like a side to side movements of the front wheels during bumps you say..I suspect too much cut on the springs during the lowering process. Sometimes this happens, that even after mounting the springs to the strut and removing the spring compressors (or alambre) the mechanic used, the coils will be loose on their mounts.

With the front end at rest, try to insert your arms inside the fender well and grab the springs if you can. If you can move the coils even a bit, too much cut has been done enough to cause stability problems.

[magilas_316]

Noted po lahat ng mga suggestions nyo.

tama, dapat pacheck mu na car mo, para ndi na madagdagan pa ang gastos mo..tried and tested q na ang cruven, the best!!!

Subukan ko na talaga sa cruven. Ala pa lang ako time. baka this christmas break pa.

kahit less than 5k odo, pwedeng bumigay ang suspensions. it all depends on the driving at mga dinadaanan ng sasakyan. kahit nga paglabas palang ng casa brand new tapos na-pothole ka ng malaki habang tumatakbo ng mabilis, pwedeng mawala kaagad sa alignment auto mo.

Medyo nagtataka nga rin ako kasi i know the previous owner of the car. at alam ko rin na maingat yun sa sasakyan nya. baka nga siguro ang cause nito eh ung tinutukoy ni sir ericbalajadia na "Friday Batch". anyway, will wait kung ano analysis ng mag check ng suspension.

With the front end at rest, try to insert your arms inside the fender well and grab the springs if you can. If you can move the coils even a bit, too much cut has been done enough to cause stability problems.

I'll try this one too sir. thanks.


By the way, alam nyo po ba kung ano mga possible na maging negative effects nito sa auto ko kung sakali tumagal pa to side to side movement ng car na hindi ma correct?

[ericbalajadia]

Premature tire wear, dangerous driving condition; you'll be used to that for sometime you may not notice the worsening state of suspension until something finally give way..on the road.