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    Quote Originally Posted by DJames View Post
    Sirs, have anyone tried changing the content of the driving info display sa harap. read the manual. ang sabi if you press the knob may changes daw sa infos ng display. I tried pero it changed to trip A or B lang. Or maybe mali lang ang pag basa ko sa manual?? Can we change the Km to Liters sa average fuel consumption? Thanks in advance.
    Sir I think there are 2 knobs sa instrument cluster. The one on the left changes the trip meter, but I think there's another one on the right that controls the fuel consumption display and clock for the 2.0i. I am not sure though if it can change the L/100km reading into km/l.

    Quote Originally Posted by armanjr View Post
    Question on the Forester 2.0il: Can the Average Fuel Consumption display be changed from Average L/100km to Ave KM/Liter? I saw on the XT that their display have this option.
    I've been looking for this option on my XT and haven't found out how to do it as well. However, for the 2.0i, as stated above, you may want to try using the right knob on the instrument cluster. The XT also has this right knob and I tried pressing it but it does nothing. I think this knob is for the 2.0i model.

    Quote Originally Posted by armanjr View Post
    Finally Got my 2.0iL last Monday. Been driving it around the city and had 80KM. Fuel Consumption from Marikina to UST area is 18.2L/100km or 5.49KM/Liter. Traffic was moderate to heavy. Was expecting around 8KM/L, di yata to possible. Still have to test on the highway.
    Using the same route on our 2009 Fortuner and I got 6.5KM/L
    Sir, on stop and go heavy traffic conditions, there really isn't anything you can do this car will drink fuel like beer during octoberfest I got as low as 3.5km/l on a really bad traffic condition in Binondo one time. On these conditions your diesel fortuner will definitely outperform the forester. However, where this car will do well is during light to moderate traffic conditions where traffic is moving and you have control of your car.

    I also found that through the MFD econ readings of the XT, that I am able to drive more efficiently with this car. My FC has been improving little by little, and I think your 2.0i can outperform the XT and get a better overall average once you get into better traffic conditions.

    Just yesterday, I traveled around 80kms going to and from Quezon City, Paranaque, Pasay, and Makati (2-3x in between) and got an overall average 8.77km/l for the day. Went as high as >10km/l during the morning as well. Granted it was a holiday yesterday, so traffic was lighter than usual, but I think it just shows that with the right traffic conditions it is possible to get a pretty good FC with the car

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanila View Post
    Sir I think there are 2 knobs sa instrument cluster. The one on the left changes the trip meter, but I think there's another one on the right that controls the fuel consumption display and clock for the 2.0i. I am not sure though if it can change the L/100km reading into km/l.
    That's correct there are two knobs tried both using different combinations while holding the manual in hand but to no avail. The display will not change to KM/L

    Quote Originally Posted by supermanila View Post
    I've been looking for this option on my XT and haven't found out how to do it as well. However, for the 2.0i, as stated above, you may want to try using the right knob on the instrument cluster. The XT also has this right knob and I tried pressing it but it does nothing. I think this knob is for the 2.0i model.
    Ganun ba, I thought i saw something sa page 3-42 nung manual. I checked it today and indeed walang info for KM/L. Confusing kasi yung nasa page 3-36 where it has info form AVG km/L. I'll ask the Service Advisor on my 1,600 checkup.

    Quote Originally Posted by supermanila View Post
    Sir, on stop and go heavy traffic conditions, there really isn't anything you can do this car will drink fuel like beer during octoberfest I got as low as 3.5km/l on a really bad traffic condition in Binondo one time. On these conditions your diesel fortuner will definitely outperform the forester. However, where this car will do well is during light to moderate traffic conditions where traffic is moving and you have control of your car.

    I also found that through the MFD econ readings of the XT, that I am able to drive more efficiently with this car. My FC has been improving little by little, and I think your 2.0i can outperform the XT and get a better overall average once you get into better traffic conditions.
    Just yesterday, I traveled around 80kms going to and from Quezon City, Paranaque, Pasay, and Makati (2-3x in between) and got an overall average 8.77km/l for the day. Went as high as >10km/l during the morning as well. Granted it was a holiday yesterday, so traffic was lighter than usual, but I think it just shows that with the right traffic conditions it is possible to get a pretty good FC with the car
    That is correct. Diesel engines outperforms gas on heavy traffic. Today I just sent my kids to school and i Got 12L/100KM = 8.33. Traffic is light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armanjr View Post
    That's correct there are two knobs tried both using different combinations while holding the manual in hand but to no avail. The display will not change to KM/L

    Ganun ba, I thought i saw something sa page 3-42 nung manual. I checked it today and indeed walang info for KM/L. Confusing kasi yung nasa page 3-36 where it has info form AVG km/L. I'll ask the Service Advisor on my 1,600 checkup.

    That is correct. Diesel engines outperforms gas on heavy traffic. Today I just sent my kids to school and i Got 12L/100KM = 8.33. Traffic is light.
    I just checked the manual din sir, mukha ngang wala rin option to change L/100KM into KM/L sa 2.0i. Sa instructions the right knob just changes the info shown, but no settings to change yung preferred FC reading.

    Am getting used to the L/100KM reading na rin naman, I usually target 11-13L/100km for my daily drive. Anything higher is bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanila View Post
    I just checked the manual din sir, mukha ngang wala rin option to change L/100KM into KM/L sa 2.0i. Sa instructions the right knob just changes the info shown, but no settings to change yung preferred FC reading.

    Am getting used to the L/100KM reading na rin naman, I usually target 11-13L/100km for my daily drive. Anything higher is bonus.
    Mukhang ganon na nga, I just have to divide. It kind of inherit to me to dislike MATH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanila View Post
    I just checked the manual din sir, mukha ngang wala rin option to change L/100KM into KM/L sa 2.0i. Sa instructions the right knob just changes the info shown, but no settings to change yung preferred FC reading.

    Am getting used to the L/100KM reading na rin naman, I usually target 11-13L/100km for my daily drive. Anything higher is bonus.
    I've also checked the manual before, there's no way to change it to KM/L. You can change the MID to display yung "lifetime" FC mo, you can only put it dun sa 3 meters, you have to change one of the meters to display the "lifetime" FC. Tingnanggal ko yung pedal percentage depression, but kept the turbo boost and oil temp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanila View Post
    Sir, on stop and go heavy traffic conditions, there really isn't anything you can do this car will drink fuel like beer during octoberfest I got as low as 3.5km/l on a really bad traffic condition in Binondo one time. On these conditions your diesel fortuner will definitely outperform the forester. However, where this car will do well is during light to moderate traffic conditions where traffic is moving and you have control of your car.
    If you also notice, in the morning when the engine is cold, starting at 35degrees celsius, thats the time where it really drinks fuel like beer. you will notice that the FC reading increments faster than when you are idling in a parking lot.

    I thought my city driving of 5km/L is the worst, you beat me with your 3.5km/L

    my lifetime FC is 14.9L/100km, for 3500kms travelled. 6.71km/L

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfule View Post
    If you also notice, in the morning when the engine is cold, starting at 35degrees celsius, thats the time where it really drinks fuel like beer. you will notice that the FC reading increments faster than when you are idling in a parking lot.
    Yeah I noticed that too sir, if you start the car in the morning, immediately reset the Trip Meter, and start moving, after about 1 kilometer, I'd see the FC reading at around 18l/100km. However, if I don't reset the Trip Meter and only reset it when I start moving, after 1 kilometer it would be at around 14l/100km.

    I think that 1 min of idling during the morning really drinks fuel too, but I also think it has something to do with the Trip Meter being at 0km din, so it is not averaging anything, it is just drinking fuel. During stop and go traffic or idling in parking kasi, you already have some kilometers run so it is already averaging your FC to the km run.

    I thought my city driving of 5km/L is the worst, you beat me with your 3.5km/L
    For the sake of everyone I hope nobody beats that 3.5km/l I got

    my lifetime FC is 14.9L/100km, for 3500kms travelled. 6.71km/L
    Haven't checked my lifetime FC yet but I think it should be around the same. My mistake was I didn't reset the lifetime FC when I got the car, so it literally started at 50l/100km. But I think in the long run it gets averaged out rin naman. Hard to improve upon the lifetime FC kasi lahat ng idling, parking, morning starts, stop and go sakop nya.

    My current tank (2nd tank so far) is averaging 7km++. Magpapagas palang ako this weekend for my 3rd tank.

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    My first choice was the pearl white, but line was too long. next was silver, but the color isn't available too.

    Since I didn't want to wait I got the dark grey metallic. I'm happy with my choice. it's not too hard to maintain as others would say.

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    Subaru owners,
    How's the resale value of the Forester compared to RAV4s? Which is easier to maintain overall? Thank you all in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevz321 View Post
    Subaru owners,
    How's the resale value of the Forester compared to RAV4s? Which is easier to maintain overall? Thank you all in advance
    With TOyota you dont have to convince ppl to buy. Subaru's a new brand and such people at the secondary market may take more effort to convince to buy.

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    I agree. When it comes to subaru, a lot of people pa rin are not that familiar with the brand. So I guess Resale value is not as high as a toyota. Second hand
    buyers will always looks for brand that are familiar. I have a brother who argue with me that "if that brand is good, why I don't see as much as I could see
    a toyota in the street".

    When it comes to maintenance I believe the price range are almost the same. Our Fortuner (which is a diesel) cost around 7-8K every PMS. I go with
    the month based PMS every 7 months.

    Quote Originally Posted by 8BRZWRX View Post
    With TOyota you dont have to convince ppl to buy. Subaru's a new brand and such people at the secondary market may take more effort to convince to buy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevz321 View Post
    Subaru owners,
    How's the resale value of the Forester compared to RAV4s? Which is easier to maintain overall? Thank you all in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by armanjr View Post
    I have a brother who argue with me that "if that brand is good, why I don't see as much as I could see
    a toyota in the street".
    Sabihin mo "well you dont see a lot of Ferraris, Lamborginis, Rolls Royces, and Bentlys on the street, so on that logic they must not be good brands either..." LOL

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    Why is white such in demand now?

    Btw i talked to my SA, if we upgrade the HU with back up cam, it must be their authorized audio supplier which is ATV so warranty will not be void.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squareroot View Post
    Why is white such in demand now?

    Btw i talked to my SA, if we upgrade the HU with back up cam, it must be their authorized audio supplier which is ATV so warranty will not be void.
    Personally I prefered my Forester in white even if I got mine in dark grey metallic. Just unwilling to wait that long.

    So does ATV offer Pioneer/Kenwood? Looking to upgrade to AppRadio 3.

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    Guys, to those who drive the XT, have you noticed that the CVT doesn't like to be rushed? I came from a 5-speed conventional automatic, and the way to drive it is to just mash the pedal, the engine will rev, and the power comes along. But here on the CVT of XT, even if you rev the engine high and quick, the power is not as quick to follow. But if you dont mash the pedal, and gradually just press on it, "alalay" lang to gradually increase the rev, the power is more readily available. Am i the only one noticing this? im already on my 4,200kms and im still trying to make the best out of the CVT and Turbo combination

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfule View Post
    Guys, to those who drive the XT, have you noticed that the CVT doesn't like to be rushed? I came from a 5-speed conventional automatic, and the way to drive it is to just mash the pedal, the engine will rev, and the power comes along. But here on the CVT of XT, even if you rev the engine high and quick, the power is not as quick to follow. But if you dont mash the pedal, and gradually just press on it, "alalay" lang to gradually increase the rev, the power is more readily available. Am i the only one noticing this? im already on my 4,200kms and im still trying to make the best out of the CVT and Turbo combination
    Yes sir I think this is one of those characteristics that some reviewers didn't like with the CVT. The power is there, but it is being given gradually, which is why the feeling of "oomph" is somewhat lost compared to the previous Forester. Here, the acceleration is more linear, smoother, less jerky.

    I actually like it this way, it's more comfortable for me and my passengers, they won't notice it but next thing you know you're already driving at >140km/h and need to slow down. What I usually do lang is if I need the power, I switch to Sports mode, then downshift manually using the paddleshifts (I love that you can still use the paddleshifts without going to Manual mode), and mash on the pedal. Once it goes it can get really fast it's just that you don't feel the power as much as when you are driving an automatic

    Quote Originally Posted by Squareroot View Post
    Why is white such in demand now?

    Btw i talked to my SA, if we upgrade the HU with back up cam, it must be their authorized audio supplier which is ATV so warranty will not be void.
    The white does really look good on the Forester, plus it's a pearl white color, which other dealers like Toyota charge an additional premium for. I think if it was just a regular white, it wouldn't have such a long line. In any case, I think the Dark Grey Metallic looks pretty good too, and the Jasmine Green color looks great in person as well.

    Sir do you mean AVT (http://www.avt.ph/)? IMO, AVT HUs look very similar to China HUs, which are only selling for 10-20k online. If they are selling these HUs + backup camera for 60k, that would be too steep. I'd rather get a Pioneer 8500 or Appradio 3. Problem is the warranty though, maybe dealers like Subaru gets a cut from AVT kaya ganon kataas ang price and kaya sila accredited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanila View Post
    I actually like it this way, it's more comfortable for me and my passengers, they won't notice it but next thing you know you're already driving at >140km/h and need to slow down. What I usually do lang is if I need the power, I switch to Sports mode, then downshift manually using the paddleshifts (I love that you can still use the paddleshifts without going to Manual mode), and mash on the pedal. Once it goes it can get really fast it's just that you don't feel the power as much as when you are driving an automatic
    Yes im normally in Sport mode na, im rarely using intelligent, and occassionally when the need arises, i use sport sharp. But the odd thing is, i feel like the car accelerates faster when not rushed than when u mash the pedal maybe this is the secret "technique" to get better FC and at the same time get more power out of it

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    The void warranty will just be on the HU right? Or for the whole vehicle warranty?

    Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2

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    As per SA, whole vehicle warranty.

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    Yes, that AVT. For 60k, its a rip off. Yun nga lang they are the only authorized 3rd party supplier. And will void the car's warranty if you put something else. And yes, at around 30k, you can get a good brand installed.

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