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    #1141
    Leather will cost 30T to 50T ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Leather will cost 30T to 50T ...
    I was quoted by banawe 5500 for german leather. What is the difference between german leather and original leather?

    I want to replace the clothe seat and cover so it's easier to clean the leather of viruses or contaminants versus clothe cover which can hide in the millions of fibers within it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catpillar View Post
    I was quoted by banawe 5500 for german leather. What is the difference between german leather and original leather?

    I want to replace the clothe seat and cover so it's easier to clean the leather of viruses or contaminants versus clothe cover which can hide in the millions of fibers within it.
    The so called "German" leather is actually synthetic leather. Most likely made on PU materials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy_boy View Post
    The so called "German" leather is actually synthetic leather. Most likely made on PU materials.

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    What kind of seat and cover do you guys use? clothe?

    In these times of covid.. mas ma stick virus sa clothe diba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by catpillar View Post
    What kind of seat and cover do you guys use? clothe?

    In these times of covid.. mas ma stick virus sa clothe diba?
    Ako wala, mukhang matibay naman yung leather seats ng FXT ko.


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    #1147
    Quote Originally Posted by catpillar View Post
    Subaru Forester 2014 and 2015 have the same seats, right?

    I have the 2015 and my seat and cover is the clothe type. I want to change to Leather (below 6k). Would anyone know what is the best Leather for it (and where to buy it)? Thanks.
    real animal-hide leather costs upwards of 30K.

    the so-called "leather" that costs less than 10K per car, are actually synthetic.
    but some writers say that synthetic leather, faux leather, german leather, etc leather, are more practical choices for the non-royalty.
    they are cheaper and easier to clean and maintain.

    i bought a used car, with faux leather seat covers. i removed these covers, because my clothes wouldn't slide over them. it was like i sat on velcro. perhaps that is one factor you should look into, when choosing your material.
    also, some folks say leather or faux leather make for hotter seats.
    all my rides are of cloth-draped seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    real animal-hide leather costs upwards of 30K.

    the so-called "leather" that costs less than 10K per car, are actually synthetic.
    but some writers say that synthetic leather, faux leather, german leather, etc leather, are more practical choices for the non-royalty.
    they are cheaper and easier to clean and maintain.

    i bought a used car, with faux leather seat covers. i removed these covers, because my clothes wouldn't slide over them. it was like i sat on velcro. perhaps that is one factor you should look into, when choosing your material.
    also, some folks say leather or faux leather make for hotter seats.
    all my rides are of cloth-draped seats.

    Let's say you go to hospitals and you have virus in your pants and it got to the seats. Would synthetic leather or clothe cover be easiler to clean and disinfect?

    What would happen if you use alcohol to wipe the synthetic leather? Would the black surface be removed? and what color would it fade into?

    For the clothe seat and cover, I imagine the virus would get stuck in the fibers of the clothe. My worry is if someone sits on them, the virus/dusts would rise to the air (versus using alcohol on the synthetic leather). What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by catpillar View Post
    Let's say you go to hospitals and you have virus in your pants and it got to the seats. Would synthetic leather or clothe cover be easiler to clean and disinfect?

    What would happen if you use alcohol to wipe the synthetic leather? Would the black surface be removed? and what color would it fade into?

    For the clothe seat and cover, I imagine the virus would get stuck in the fibers of the clothe. My worry is if someone sits on them, the virus/dusts would rise to the air (versus using alcohol on the synthetic leather). What do you guys think?
    i park my car under the sun, now.
    patay ang virus.
    serious.

    i am not aware of a study that mentions the health-hazard differences among these materials.

    i imagine, the synthetic materials will offer less friendly haven for the virus, because they do not absorb moisture.

    alcohol and fading?
    ask the manufacturer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catpillar View Post
    Let's say you go to hospitals and you have virus in your pants and it got to the seats. Would synthetic leather or clothe cover be easiler to clean and disinfect?

    What would happen if you use alcohol to wipe the synthetic leather? Would the black surface be removed? and what color would it fade into?

    For the clothe seat and cover, I imagine the virus would get stuck in the fibers of the clothe. My worry is if someone sits on them, the virus/dusts would rise to the air (versus using alcohol on the synthetic leather). What do you guys think?
    Just leave your car overnight, pretty sure viral particles will significantly decrease to a point its not infectious anymore the next day you use it. Much more so in cloth seats since these are even more porous than leather/faux leather.

    Studies have shown an infectious load of viral particles only last a day at the most on porous surfaces such as cloth, cardboard, and paper. On stainless and plastic, up to three days. And these studies were made on cooler climates.

    Unless you wear PPE while driving, this should be the least of your worries. Just ensure you don't touch your face after touching unsanitized surfaces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakwatsero View Post
    Just leave your car overnight, pretty sure viral particles will significantly decrease to a point its not infectious anymore the next day you use it. Much more so in cloth seats since these are even more porous than leather/faux leather.

    Studies have shown an infectious load of viral particles only last a day at the most on porous surfaces such as cloth, cardboard, and paper. On stainless and plastic, up to three days. And these studies were made on cooler climates.

    Unless you wear PPE while driving, this should be the least of your worries. Just ensure you don't touch your face after touching unsanitized surfaces.
    When I visit hospitals or doctors clinics for appointment and use PPE (face shield, etc). I put them on the empty front passenger seats or even back seats. I imagined the viruses settling into the clothe and difficult to clean. Whereas if it is synthetic leather, easier to clean as the virus are more concentrated on the surface. Pero it seems you meant mas mabilis maka infect sa iba if leather or smooth surface? Hmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by catpillar View Post
    When I visit hospitals or doctors clinics for appointment and use PPE (face shield, etc). I put them on the empty front passenger seats or even back seats. I imagined the viruses settling into the clothe and difficult to clean. Whereas if it is synthetic leather, easier to clean as the virus are more concentrated on the surface. Pero it seems you meant mas mabilis maka infect sa iba if leather or smooth surface? Hmm...
    Synthetic leather is made from PVC or PU, and covid survives up to 3 days in plastics. Real leather seats are surface-treated and unlikely porous so it might be similar. Cloth seats are porous so its safer if you're worried about transmission.

    Only 8 hours for aluminum and 4 hours for copper and its alloys like brass and bronze.

    With a car's interior acting like a greenhouse, viral decay rate is much faster so transmission from touching your seat is highly unlikely in a day's time. Just leave your car exposed to the sun for a few hours.

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    Hi. Just got my 2018 FXT. Has anyone had the tS conversion? What shop in Metro Manila does this? Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisDan View Post
    Hi. Just got my 2018 FXT. Has anyone had the tS conversion? What shop in Metro Manila does this? Thank you.
    Do you want to change the looks or do you want to update the ECU? Aesthetic upgrades are easily done but on the engine/tranny side has limits.

    The XT does around 170-180hp at the wheels in stock tune. There are shops that can bump it up to around 200-210 with a mild tune (ECU reflash + intake upgrade).

    There’s a limit to tuning the capabilities of the XT. The CVT tranny can only handle up to 400Nm so any more torque will wreck the tranny.

    If you ask me, keep it stock as the SJ XT is the last of its kind unless Subaru brings back the XT.


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    Thank you for the reply. I was just planning some strut braces front and back. Plus thicker sway bars, perhaps. I heard about the STI Flexible Strut Tower Brace. Curious. Also some steering dampers, maybe.

    I wont touch the ECU or TCM.

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    With Android auto ba lahat ng variants ng Forester or yung GT variants lang gaya ng sabi sa website? Sabi kasi isang nakausap ko ay lahat meron pero yung isa ding nakausap ko ay GT lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonski View Post
    With Android auto ba lahat ng variants ng Forester or yung GT variants lang gaya ng sabi sa website? Sabi kasi isang nakausap ko ay lahat meron pero yung isa ding nakausap ko ay GT lang.
    Sa Forester SK (2019 onwards) na eto. The 2013-2018 Forester SJ didn’t have Android Auto or Apple CarPlay.


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    Nag blink AT TEMP light sa dash ko last friday on my way to MIAS, so I opted to have it checked nalang sa Subaru manila bay. They scanned it and found that I need to replace valve body assmebly. Repair Price 125k..Gaddamm!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Nag blink AT TEMP light sa dash ko last friday on my way to MIAS, so I opted to have it checked nalang sa Subaru manila bay. They scanned it and found that I need to replace valve body assmebly. Repair Price 125k..Gaddamm!!
    Pa check mo sa FusionR or 2211. Baka mas affordable.


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