Strada PMS thread [ARCHIVED]

[dBoss]

You may want to ready the ff, this has been my guide when I started to use Diesel Oil Engine way way back.

http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html

[beni23]

You may want to ready the ff, this has been my guide when I started to use Diesel Oil Engine way way back.

http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html

Flushing oils

These are special compound oils that are very, very thin. They almost have the consistency of tap water when cold as well as hot. Typically they are 0W/20 oils. Don't ever drive with these oils in your engine - it won't last. (Caveat : some hybrid vehicles now require 0W20, so if you're a hybrid driver, check your owner's manual). Their purpose is for cleaning out all the gunk which builds up inside an engine. Note that Mobil1 0W40 is okay, because the '40' denotes that it's actually thick enough at temperature to work. 0W20 just doesn't get that viscous!

Do I need a flushing oil?

Unless there's something seriously wrong with your engine, like you've filled it with milk or shampoo, you really ought never to need a flushing oil. If you're transitioning from a mineral oil to a synthetic oil, likewise you probably don't need to flush the engine first.
If you do decide to do an oil flush, first drain your engine of all it's oil, but leave the old oil filter in place. Next fill it up with flushing oil and run it at a fast idle for about 20 minutes. Finally, drain all this off (and marvel at the crap that comes out with it), replace the oil filter, refill with a good synthetic oil and voila! Clean engine.
Of course, like most things nowadays, there's a condition attached when using flushing oils. In an old engine you really don't want to remove all the deposits. Some of these deposits help seal rings, lifters and even some of the flanges between the heads, covers, pan and the block, where the gaskets are thin. I have heard of engines with over 280,000km that worked fine, but when flushed it failed in a month because the blow-by past the scraper ring (now really clean) contaminated the oil and screwed the rod bearings.

Using Diesel oil for flushing

A question came up some time ago about using diesel-rated oils to flush out petrol engines. The idea was that because of the higher detergent levels in diesel engine oil, it might be a good cleaner / flusher for a non-diesel engine. Well most of the diesel oil specification oils can be used in old petrol engines for cleaning, but you want to use a low specification oil to ensure that you do not over clean your engine and lose compression for example. Generally speaking, an SAE 15W/40 diesel engine oil for about 500 miles might do the trick.

Thankyou sir for sharing. Matagal nang bumabagabag sa isip ko kung ano talaga itong Flushing oil.

[janperson]

wow, if i will be keep thinking of these expenses i wont enjoy my ride... go shell

Pag tapos na warranty, baka hindi na rin ako mag casa. mahal talaga hehe.

[SIZE=3]
WOW! Nearing 40k pms na din ako. Ouch!

*janperson - how come there were 2 types of ATFs billed?

*av8r5 - my experience with motolite is it usually breaks down a few months after the warranty period, if it has a 15-month warranty it will break down by the 17th month.[/SIZE]

Sa steering nga ata. A little over 3 years naman lagi sa akin motolite gold. meron pa akong upgraded sounds noon sa luma kong ride.

[jokulit]

Mga Sir, meron po ba kayong alam kung saan o kanino pwede makabili ng Motul fully-synthetic motor oil?

Thanks!

[dBoss]

Mga Sir, meron po ba kayong alam kung saan o kanino pwede makabili ng Motul fully-synthetic motor oil?

Thanks!

Saw a Motul Fully-synthethic at Handyman Trinoma, P600+. It is Hi-tech 100 I did not not check if it is good for Diesel Engine though. HTH

Baka may gumagamit ng Castrol CRB Turbo dito, pa feedback naman, ang ganda kasi ng nakasulat sa likod na this this oil is at its best even on the elevated heat being generated by turbo charged Diesel Engines..

[Arvin Cristi]

Saw a Motul Fully-synthethic at Handyman Trinoma, P600+. It is Hi-tech 100 I did not not check if it is good for Diesel Engine though. HTH

Baka may gumagamit ng Castrol CRB Turbo dito, pa feedback naman, ang ganda kasi ng nakasulat sa likod na this this oil is at its best even on the elevated heat being generated by turbo charged Diesel Engines..

dboss, if i am not mistaken crb turbo is a semi-synth oil with a rating of 15w-40 or 20w-40... basically put good oil naman siya, considering that it is coming from castrol and the crb line has been proven to be quite reliable

[ejaydq]

hay mag 10k narin ako PMS ulit ngayong magpapasko.. san ba pinakamura na Service Center. Makunat kasi sa Carworld. Yung tipong pede kaw na magdala ng oil and kung sakaling palitan air filter eh papayag na aftermarket K&S gamitin? Thanks

[dBoss]

dboss, if i am not mistaken crb turbo is a semi-synth oil with a rating of 15w-40 or 20w-40... basically put good oil naman siya, considering that it is coming from castrol and the crb line has been proven to be quite reliable

Thanks for your reply. The CRB for turbo is rated 15W 40, I will try to use this in my 5k PM. This is priced for Php750++/4liters at Handyman Trinoma madami ang stock kaya mapatingin at napabasa ako ng text niya sa likod ng packaging.

Thanks again.

[locoroco777]

Thanks for your reply. The CRB for turbo is rated 15W 40, I will try to use this in my 5k PM. This is priced for Php750++/4liters at Handyman Trinoma madami ang stock kaya mapatingin at napabasa ako ng text niya sa likod ng packaging.

Thanks again.

hi sir...a bit of advice lang...if your decided to use CRB na I suggest buy nalang from auto supplies outside malls...siguradong mas mura...

[EkwinOKS]

Thanks for your reply. The CRB for turbo is rated 15W 40, I will try to use this in my 5k PM. This is priced for Php750++/4liters at Handyman Trinoma madami ang stock kaya mapatingin at napabasa ako ng text niya sa likod ng packaging.

Thanks again.

nasubukan ko narin ang CasTrol dati nung sa Adventure ko pa nun..ok naman siya sir...tama si sir LR mas mura sa mga auto supplies sa labas..

[dBoss]

nasubukan ko narin ang CasTrol dati nung sa Adventure ko pa nun..ok naman siya sir...tama si sir LR mas mura sa mga auto supplies sa labas..

hi sir...a bit of advice lang...if your decided to use CRB na I suggest buy nalang from auto supplies outside malls...siguradong mas mura...

Thanks for the advise - will try to canvass from the autoshops but if price gap is not that wide, I would get it from the malls. I read before kasi sa isang thread na kasama ang Castrol and Mobil na may lumabas fake. I am clueless on how to detect the orginal from the fake eh; baka may magkapag guide sa akin on how to determine fake Castrol Oil... ang mga local car shops na normally pinupuntahan ay sa may Commonweatth paglagpas sa Batasan Hills underpass; Petron Trekker Muiti Grade ang kinukuha and Vic Filter for my L300 ang binibili ko doon.

[the_champ]

hi po. first post ko to sa strada club forum. nagbabackread ako dito sa PMS thread. Parang ang dami palang STRADA owners. Ang haba ng mga thread hehe.

anyway, balak kasi ni misis bumili ng sasakyan for her family this december and nirecommend ko sa kanya ang STRADA . Maganda yung reviews na nakita ko at parang maganda ang support group dito sa tsikot at sa strada club.

anyway, may question po ako regarding sa PMS sa casa. May control po ba tayo sa mga gagawin sa casa? I mean, tatanungin ka ba nila kung payag ka sa bawat item na gagawin nila? Pede bang sabihin ko na wag na mag engine flush, additives, etc.. na feeling ko eh unnecessary..

regarding sa oil po, ok lang po ba na regular mineral oil lang ang gamitin pag nag change oil? nirerequire ba ng casa na synthetic yung gamitin?

maraming salamat po in advance sa mga replies nyo . more power to starda club!

[av8or5]

hi po. first post ko to sa strada club forum. nagbabackread ako dito sa PMS thread. Parang ang dami palang STRADA owners. Ang haba ng mga thread hehe.

anyway, balak kasi ni misis bumili ng sasakyan for her family this december and nirecommend ko sa kanya ang STRADA . Maganda yung reviews na nakita ko at parang maganda ang support group dito sa tsikot at sa strada club.

anyway, may question po ako regarding sa PMS sa casa. May control po ba tayo sa mga gagawin sa casa? I mean, tatanungin ka ba nila kung payag ka sa bawat item na gagawin nila? Pede bang sabihin ko na wag na mag engine flush, additives, etc.. na feeling ko eh unnecessary..

regarding sa oil po, ok lang po ba na regular mineral oil lang ang gamitin pag nag change oil? nirerequire ba ng casa na synthetic yung gamitin?

maraming salamat po in advance sa mga replies nyo . more power to starda club!

Welcome to the thread, to answer your question, yes, you can tell them not to include additives, car care, engine flush etc.

What is important are the oil change, oil filter, fuel filter, ATFs etc.

MMPC recommends fully synthetic oil, but mineral oil can also be used.

Emphasize ko lang, recommends not requires, there is a difference.

Strada is an all around pickup, classy, sporty, and brute.

Good luck and hope you get your Strada.

[jokulit]

hi po. first post ko to sa strada club forum. nagbabackread ako dito sa PMS thread. Parang ang dami palang STRADA owners. Ang haba ng mga thread hehe.

anyway, balak kasi ni misis bumili ng sasakyan for her family this december and nirecommend ko sa kanya ang STRADA . Maganda yung reviews na nakita ko at parang maganda ang support group dito sa tsikot at sa strada club.

anyway, may question po ako regarding sa PMS sa casa. May control po ba tayo sa mga gagawin sa casa? I mean, tatanungin ka ba nila kung payag ka sa bawat item na gagawin nila? Pede bang sabihin ko na wag na mag engine flush, additives, etc.. na feeling ko eh unnecessary..

regarding sa oil po, ok lang po ba na regular mineral oil lang ang gamitin pag nag change oil? nirerequire ba ng casa na synthetic yung gamitin?

maraming salamat po in advance sa mga replies nyo . more power to starda club!

Hello Sir the_champ! Good recommendation po yung Strada. It's a value for money vehicle. And as you mentioned, the Strada has a good and established community of owners and enthusiasts. I have my unit for 7 months now and I'm very satisfied with it.

Regarding your question, my experience is that the casa has a standard list of "to do's" for maintenance. Kung meron kang ayaw ipagawa, sasabihin nila baka magkaroon ng problema in case mag-claim ka ng warranty. Pero hindi lahat sila pare-pareho. Meron casa na papayag kung meron kang request. Saan po ba ang location nyo? Maybe the other BOSB can recommend a good casa.

With regard to the oil, the casa will say that Mitsubishi issued a memo that they require the use of fully synthetic oil. Well, meron tayong mga members who still opted to use mineral oil. I guess it's up to you. Pwede tayo magtanong dun sa mga gumagamit ng mineral oil kung ano experience nila.

Hintayin natin yung ibang replies.

[the_champ]

mga sir, salamat po sa info . bale first time namin bibili ng brand new kaya di ako familiar dyan sa casa. strada glx yung balak namin. sa sta rosa kami so dun sa AMCAR yung pinakamalapit na service center.

[jokulit]

mga sir, salamat po sa info . bale first time namin bibili ng brand new kaya di ako familiar dyan sa casa. strada glx yung balak namin. sa sta rosa kami so dun sa AMCAR yung pinakamalapit na service center.

If you read back, you already have an idea of the periodic maintenance costs... para hindi ka mabigla pag nagpa-service ka sa casa.

[paolo0803]

Mga Sir's, share ko lang yung 15K PMS ko

Casa: Diamond Valle Verde
SA: J.R. Almoneda

Breakdown
8L XP Oil: 4,572.88 (P571.61 /Liter. No choice, nagkakaubusan ng stock ng motul, hoarding ata)
Oil Filter: 677.77 (with 35% discounted price; 1042.72 orig price)
Flushing: 320.51 (sayang, nakalimutan kong ipatanggal)
CCK: 222.88
Varsol: 95.55 (pina engine wash ko na, ang dumi na eh)
Rags: 12.00
Sand paper: 20.00
Service breaks: 430.00
Labor: 1,975.00

Total cash out: P 8,326.63

Mga reklamo:
Door lock not properly fitted (Driver side) due to faulty actuator from Winterpine. Under warranty pa naman kaso no spare parts available.

[dBoss]

Mga Sir's, share ko lang yung 15K PMS ko

Casa: Diamond Valle Verde
SA: J.R. Almoneda

Breakdown
8L XP Oil: 4,572.88 (P571.61 /Liter. No choice, nagkakaubusan ng stock ng motul, hoarding ata)
Oil Filter: 677.77 (with 35% discounted price; 1042.72 orig price)
Flushing: 320.51 (sayang, nakalimutan kong ipatanggal)
CCK: 222.88
Varsol: 95.55 (pina engine wash ko na, ang dumi na eh)
Rags: 12.00
Sand paper: 20.00
Service breaks: 430.00
Labor: 1,975.00

Total cash out: P 8,326.63

Mga reklamo:
Door lock not properly fitted (Driver side) due to faulty actuator from Winterpine. Under warranty pa naman kaso no spare parts available.

Hi Bro - Paano mo nakuha ang 35% discount sa oil filter?

[paolo0803]

Hi Bro - Paano mo nakuha ang 35% discount sa oil filter?

Pre, binigyan nila ako ng discount card (pero one time use only) since sabi ko im from strada club and was referred by sir Rally a.ka av8or5. Binigyan nila ulit ako ng another discount card for my next PMS. Galeng!

Thanks to Sir Rally for recommending your previous SA

[the_champ]

sir bigtrak, hindi po ba required na sa casa mag pa pms pag under warranty pa? gusto ko talaga tong strada pero worry ko tong mataas na pms bill sa casa. mahal yung labor sa casa plus mahal yung synthetic oil.

for my 15k pms.

had it done at shell paranaque gas station, no hassle at all 2 hours lang and it was a learning experienced for me, kasi nakikita ko kung pano gawin like change oil, palit ng oil filter and linisin yung air filter. with question and answer pa with the mechanic.

mineral lang ginamit ko nung nag 10k pms ako sa casa, pag ka flush durning 15k change oil sobrang itim.

breakdown:
oil - 7 lits of shell helix diesel plus = 2500
oil filter from casa mits oem = 900. meron din silang vic japan replacement.
labor = 200

total = 3600

6.5 lang bali ang langis na nagamit sa 2.5 glx, nag level na agad. masama daw yung masyadong force drain ng langis metal to metal daw mag kikiskisan during first starpup. inuwi ko pa yung natira. nag taka nga ako kala ko 7 - 8 talaga kailangan?

yung nag papabanlaw ng langis dyan, usually mineral lang ginagamit para di sayang.