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    Do we have members who happen to know of natural method healers that might be of help alleviating pain? For some reasons the doctors have prescribed me a cocktail of different pills which to my opinion only damages the liver. Any experience, where and by who would be greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mina_nuka View Post
    Do we have members who happen to know of natural method healers that might be of help alleviating pain? For some reasons the doctors have prescribed me a cocktail of different pills which to my opinion only damages the liver. Any experience, where and by who would be greatly appreciated.
    what pain btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_BIG18 View Post
    what pain btw?


    chronic migraine headache feels like a massive hangover

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    Quote Originally Posted by mina_nuka View Post
    chronic migraine headache feels like a massive hangover
    no hyper tension issues? sinuses? how bout your eyes? got them checked?

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    Have your eyes checked properly ...

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    Thanks for your responses. I have tried the supposedly best doctors at st. Luke's in GVC, I have consulted with the Landstuhl army hospital in Germany. All you have mentioned including blood chemistry stats are normal. Vision check last month by another optometrist normal with the same prescription glasses. Blood pressure typically normal even for a teenager. I am resorting to other than drugged healing. There must be something medical professionals are missing.

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    How long has this persisted? Have you seen a neurologist? A quick bloodtest and mri of the head will rule out posibilities, im assuming youve had this regularly for the past years?

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    Well sabi nga nila minsan tubig lang ang katapat nyan. Pero yung kapit bahay namin, ang kuwento naman niya is iba, every months siya pabalik balik for check up. Di naman gumagaan pakiramdam niya. Then one time may nakapagsabi na relatives nya na pumunta sa albularyo-faith healer. Ayun gumaling at nawala ang karamdaman niya.

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    I am surrounded by alternative medicine people! I am gonna lose my mind soon!

    I have fever for 3 days now and the people closest to me are suggesting supplements and alternative medicine? All I want to do is to go to the hospital. If only I could drive myself to the hospital, I would!

    Favorite Tita (Dad's sister) - told me to drink lots of Vitamin C. She takes Unicity so she suggested that. My fever is probably due to my sipon daw

    Kuya Cousin - he advocates Unicity (he lost over 40 lbs ata, though I think he is too thin already) so he called me and practically forced me to order their supplements online which are so expensive btw. He will pick up the meds from Unicity in BGC and bring it to my house tomorrow so I could take it already. Eh mas maganda siguro kung sinundo na lang ako at dinala sa St Luke's

    50 yr old friend - I asked him to bring me to St Luke's if my fever does not go down today BUT he told me he will cure me at his clinic and I don't need to go to the hospital anymore He is so obsessed with alternative medicine and supplements!

    Childhood best friend - obsessed with yoga. She told me to avoid check ups because doctors always find something wrong and will prescribe maintenance meds which will only make things worse.

    The husband of my Mom's friend is a surgeon. I complained about my back pain and he said he will do acupuncture on me. He is a surgeon who is into alternative medicine. Isn't that conflicting?

    I don't know if it's just my circle or are majority of people losing trust on medical science?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I am surrounded by alternative medicine people! I am gonna lose my mind soon!

    I have fever for 3 days now and the people closest to me are suggesting supplements and alternative medicine? All I want to do is to go to the hospital. If only I could drive myself to the hospital, I would!

    Favorite Tita (Dad's sister) - told me to drink lots of Vitamin C. She takes Unicity so she suggested that. My fever is probably due to my sipon daw

    Kuya Cousin - he advocates Unicity (he lost over 40 lbs ata, though I think he is too thin already) so he called me and practically forced me to order their supplements online which are so expensive btw. He will pick up the meds from Unicity in BGC and bring it to my house tomorrow so I could take it already. Eh mas maganda siguro kung sinundo na lang ako at dinala sa St Luke's

    50 yr old friend - I asked him to bring me to St Luke's if my fever does not go down today BUT he told me he will cure me at his clinic and I don't need to go to the hospital anymore He is so obsessed with alternative medicine and supplements!

    Childhood best friend - obsessed with yoga. She told me to avoid check ups because doctors always find something wrong and will prescribe maintenance meds which will only make things worse.

    The husband of my Mom's friend is a surgeon. I complained about my back pain and he said he will do acupuncture on me. He is a surgeon who is into alternative medicine. Isn't that conflicting?

    I don't know if it's just my circle or are majority of people losing trust on medical science?


    supplements. that's the modern day patent medicine or snake oil

    people were stupid then, we're still now. brain processing capability has not increased. but we have internet now which seems to make people stupider

    anyway why goto hospital for only a fever? if it's not super high then it's probably just a virus. unless you've got cough w/ lots of phlegm and high fever. you really gotta go for pneumonia

    people still trust modern medicine. just watch them when they have a real medical emergency eh pag walang sakit, mag indulge lang sa supplements which makes them "feel good" for mostly placebo-effect reasons, and for multi-level marketing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    supplements. that's the modern day patent medicine or snake oil

    people were stupid then, we're still now. brain processing capability has not increased. but we have internet now which seems to make people stupider

    anyway why goto hospital for only a fever? if it's not super high then it's probably just a virus. unless you've got cough w/ lots of phlegm and high fever. you really gotta go for pneumonia

    people still trust modern medicine. just watch them when they have a real medical emergency eh pag walang sakit, mag indulge lang sa supplements which makes them "feel good" for mostly placebo-effect reasons, and for multi-level marketing
    sad to say, gusto ng lahat easy, six pack shortcuts, 3 min abs, 7 min whole body workouts, people still believe that drinking apple cider vinegar will have an impact on their overall health, its not that simple, puting something in your month will only make someone richer..

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I am surrounded by alternative medicine people! I am gonna lose my mind soon!

    I have fever for 3 days now and the people closest to me are suggesting supplements and alternative medicine? All I want to do is to go to the hospital. If only I could drive myself to the hospital, I would!

    Favorite Tita (Dad's sister) - told me to drink lots of Vitamin C. She takes Unicity so she suggested that. My fever is probably due to my sipon daw

    Kuya Cousin - he advocates Unicity (he lost over 40 lbs ata, though I think he is too thin already) so he called me and practically forced me to order their supplements online which are so expensive btw. He will pick up the meds from Unicity in BGC and bring it to my house tomorrow so I could take it already. Eh mas maganda siguro kung sinundo na lang ako at dinala sa St Luke's

    50 yr old friend - I asked him to bring me to St Luke's if my fever does not go down today BUT he told me he will cure me at his clinic and I don't need to go to the hospital anymore He is so obsessed with alternative medicine and supplements!

    Childhood best friend - obsessed with yoga. She told me to avoid check ups because doctors always find something wrong and will prescribe maintenance meds which will only make things worse.

    The husband of my Mom's friend is a surgeon. I complained about my back pain and he said he will do acupuncture on me. He is a surgeon who is into alternative medicine. Isn't that conflicting?

    I don't know if it's just my circle or are majority of people losing trust on medical science?
    western-type medicine is expensive. if not the actual medicine, the doctor's fees and hospital fees.
    that's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    supplements. that's the modern day patent medicine or snake oil

    people were stupid then, we're still now. brain processing capability has not increased. but we have internet now which seems to make people stupider

    anyway why goto hospital for only a fever? if it's not super high then it's probably just a virus. unless you've got cough w/ lots of phlegm and high fever. you really gotta go for pneumonia

    people still trust modern medicine. just watch them when they have a real medical emergency eh pag walang sakit, mag indulge lang sa supplements which makes them "feel good" for mostly placebo-effect reasons, and for multi-level marketing
    Some supplements worked for me I think. I take chromium picolinate to control my blood sugar (though I am not diabetic)

    I want to go to the hospital because I'm scared. I usually don't get fever longer than 2 days. Today is the 3rd day already I have cough but no phlegm. Runny nose and sore throat and body pain. 38 highest reading ko.

    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    western-type medicine is expensive. if not the actual medicine, the doctor's fees and hospital fees.
    that's all.
    But Doctor, money is not an issue for the health fanatics that I mentioned. They just prefer the "traditional method". My 50 yr old friend also takes a lot of supplements that are so expensive (he is perfectly healthy). My Mom's friend is into acupuncture, they charge per needle plus the fee of acupuncturist so it's definitely at least P1k session, most people do it twice a week.

    PF of MD usually ranges 1k-1.5k. When I went to the ER last year for my fever, I was not even prescribed any medicine. Today I spent P2,600 for the supplements that my Kuya asked me to buy to help cure my sipon. P2600 for sipon. It would have been cheaper if I just bought decolgen

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Some supplements worked for me I think. I take chromium picolinate to control my blood sugar (though I am not diabetic)

    I want to go to the hospital because I'm scared. I usually don't get fever longer than 2 days. Today is the 3rd day already I have cough but no phlegm. Runny nose and sore throat and body pain. 38 highest reading ko.



    But Doctor, money is not an issue for the health fanatics that I mentioned. They just prefer the "traditional method". My 50 yr old friend also takes a lot of supplements that are so expensive (he is perfectly healthy). My Mom's friend is into acupuncture, they charge per needle plus the fee of acupuncturist so it's definitely at least P1k session, most people do it twice a week.

    PF of MD usually ranges 1k-1.5k. When I went to the ER last year for my fever, I was not even prescribed any medicine. Today I spent P2,600 for the supplements that my Kuya asked me to buy to help cure my sipon. P2600 for sipon. It would have been cheaper if I just bought decolgen
    well, when fanatics are on the table, all bets are off. "they are logical only in their own minds. one may not reason with them."

    so why do folks prefer non-doctor involvement in their health issues?...
    maybe they like to be "in control" ? maybe they do not like authority figures ? maybe there is this perception of cost ?
    i remember my parents and relatives, when i was very young. they have this aversion going to the doctor, because the doctor is a total stranger(?), because he costs money(?), or because we must adjust to his work schedule (?)..
    but when the neighbor's son came home from training as a doctor... aba! every other cough at pinapa-punta na kami sa kanyang bahay! it is only now that i am a doctor myself, that i pity that neighbor's son... trabaho na sa ospital, trabaho pa rin sa bahay...

    a study on why even learned folks turn to alternative medicine, came up with... "because it aligns with their philosophy and/or expands their options".
    Last edited by dr. d; September 3rd, 2017 at 09:32 AM.

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    pei pa koa ... panlaban sa sipon, etc

    doctor ang nag-recommend sa akin


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    Quote Originally Posted by kinyo View Post
    pei pa koa ... panlaban sa sipon, etc

    doctor ang nag-recommend sa akin

    agree!
    101 % !

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    Unicity is that like Usana? overpriced sups?

    diba pag feverish paracetamol to control the temperature?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Unicity is that like Usana? overpriced sups?

    diba pag feverish paracetamol to control the temperature?

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    Yes. It's hard for me to say no to my Kuya because I owe him my job in my dream company and his parents helped our family financially also.

    I've been taking paracetamol every 6 hrs but my temperature still isn't normal.

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    Anyone tried that "Essentials" of Usana?


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    sleep is the best. slept 10hrs after a grueling 24hr shift 🤣

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