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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Ketib View Post
    pag naninilaw ba kulang sa araw?

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    may sakit na yun

    Ako kulang talaga sa araw kaya si SO pinapagalitan ako

    I wake up tanghali na tapos covered parking sa office and garage, pag uwi ko gabi na

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Ketib View Post
    pag naninilaw ba kulang sa araw?

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    liver disease. internal medicine agad if eyeballs are discolored too
    Last edited by StockEngine; March 18th, 2020 at 04:32 PM.

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    #43
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    ito inaanalyze ko mga nangyayari sa n-ko-vi.

    ang madaling madale eh may mga pera sa buhay pag usapang virus.

    walang gaano balita sa mahirap sa mga squatters area waley panic. Sanay sa bacteria/virus/amoeba/

    maybe lagi sila naaarawan. Eh vitamin d from the sun madami health benefits its a steroid hormone .

    They dont eat like the americans but i know madalas sila cup noodles but malaki talaga tulong nung sikat ng araw kaya nanenegate ang virus.

    Mas anti-fragile mahihirap. KAsi kung magkamatayan man wala sila iisipin mga properties, bank account.
    Kaya ata mga mayayaman ang tinatamaan, kasi...

    Hindi sila takot pumunta sa hospital kapag nagkakasakit.

    Yung mga elite may pera kaya natetest agad.

    Pag mahirap ka, kahit may nararamdaman ka na, takot ka magpacheck kasi gastos yan.

    wala namang proof na mayayaman lang tinatamaan diba? Yun lang alam natin, kasi sila lang natetest? Just a thought

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    #44
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    pag may namatay ng dahil sa lagnat at hirap pag hinga sa squatters area eh mabilis kumalat balita yan. Mga de smartphone kaya jan majority oppo brand

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    #45
    Kapag mahirap namatay, hika or tb. Pero pag mayaman, covid19.

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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Ketib View Post
    pag naninilaw ba kulang sa araw?

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    hindi naman po.
    may sakit ang tao, kapag naninilaw.
    araw helps break down bilirubin. useful if newborn or neonate.
    but the real solution, is to find out why naninilaw, and correct it if possible.
    maraming possibilities, kung bakit naninilaw... blood disorder, liver disorder, biliary and gall bladder disease, drug side-effect, etc.
    Last edited by dr. d; March 18th, 2020 at 10:08 PM.

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    #47
    another piece of the puzzle

    cholesterol is used to make vitamin d in the body.


    Low Serum Cholesterol Level Among Patients With COVID-19 Infection



    Abstract
    Background: A recent cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan, China, was caused by a novel coronavirus COVID-19. Meanwhile, as the infection progressed, a large number of cases were also diagnosed in Wenzhou, China. The objective of the study is to describe the clinical laboratory features, especially lipid profile of the patients with COVID-19 infection in Wenzhou.

    Methods: All cases were in a designated hospital in Wenzhou, and confirmed by positive virial nucleic acid detection through PCR assay. All clinical laboratory data were from the first test results after their admission. The unpaired t test was used for data analysis.

    Findings: The absolute value of white blood cells, neutrophils and lymphocytes were lower than healthy controls ( P <0.05), more significantly, the patients had sharply decreased total cholesterol (TC), HDL-cholesterol and LDL-cholesterol levels ( P <0.001), 3.70±0.09mmol/L, 1.18±0.03 mmol/L and 1.82±0.08 mmol/L respectively, and increased monocyte/HDL-cholesterol ratio (0.37±0.02 vs 0.28±0.01 in healthy control). Among the patients, the primary infection cases showed the lower HDL-cholesterol levels (1.10±0.04 mmol/L) and higher monocyte/HDL-cholesterol ratio (0.43±0.03) than the secondary infection cases by person-to-person transmission ( P <0.05). Compared with the female patients, the male patients had higher levels of monocytes [(0.46±0.02) ×10 9 /L], M/HDL-C ratio (0.44±0.02), and lactate dehydrogenase (LDH, 257.6±12.32 U/l).

    Interpretation: Low serum cholesterol level in the patients with COVID-19 in Wenzhou, China. Altered serum cholesterol provide important information, and is meaningful to understand the disease.
    Low Serum Cholesterol Level Among Patients with COVID-19 Infection in Wenzhou, China by Xingzhong Hu, Dong Chen, Lianpeng Wu, Guiqing He, Wei Ye :: SSRN

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    ito bago balita march 18 kahapon

    Do our hospital using high-dose intravenous vitamin c or laging by the book pharmaceuticals?

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Mar 18, 2020

    Successful High-Dose Vitamin C Treatment of Patients with Serious and Critical COVID-19 Infection
    by Richard Cheng, MD, PhD

    (OMNS Mar 18, 2020) A group of medical doctors, healthcare providers and scientists met online March 17, 2020, to discuss the use of high dose intravenous vitamin C (IVC) in the treatment of moderate to severe cases of Covid-19 patients. The key guest was Dr. Enqian Mao, chief of emergency medicine department at Ruijin Hospital, a major hospital in Shanghai, affiliated with the Joatong University College of Medicine. Dr. Mao is also a member of the Senior Expert Team at the Shanghai Public Health Center, where all Covid-19 patients have been treated. In addition, Dr. Mao co-authored the Shanghhai Guidelines for the Treatment of Covid-19 Infection, an official document endorsed by the Shanghai Medical Association and the Shanghai city government. [1]

    Dr. Mao has been using high-dose dose IVC to treat patients with acute pancreatitis, sepsis, surgical wound healing and other medical conditions for over 10 years. When Covid-19 broke out, he and other experts thought of vitamin C and recommended IVC for the treatment of moderate to severe cases of Covid-19 patients. The recommendation was accepted early in the epidemic by the Shanghai Expert Team. All serious or critically ill Covid-19 patients in the Shanghai area were treated in Shanghai Public Health Center, for a total of 358 Covid-19 patients as of March 17th, 2020.

    Dr. Mao stated that his group treated ~50 cases of moderate to severe cases of Covid-19 infection with high dose IVC. The IVC dosing was in the range of 10,000 mg - 20,000 mg a day for 7-10 days, with 10,000 mg for moderate cases and 20,000 for more severe cases, determined by pulmonary status (mostly the oxygenation index) and coagulation status. All patients who received IVC improved and there was no mortality. Compared to the average of a 30-day hospital stay for all Covid-19 patients, those patients who received high dose IVC had a hospital stay about 3-5 days shorter than the overall patients. Dr. Mao discussed one severe case in particular who was deteriorating rapidly. He gave a bolus of 50,000 mg IVC over a period of 4 hours. The patient's pulmonary (oxygenation index) status stabilized and improved as the critical care team watched in real time. There were no side effects reported from any of the cases treated with high dose IVC.

    Among the international experts who attended today's video conference were: Dr. Atsuo Yanagisawa, formerly professor of medicine at the Kyorin University, Tokyo, Japan, and the president of the International Society for Orthomolecular Medicine; Dr. Jun Matsuyama of Japan; Dr. Michael J Gonzalez, professor at University of Puerto Rico Medical Sciences, Dr. Jean Drisko, professor of medicine, and Dr. Qi Chen, professor of pharmacology, both at the Kansas University Medical School, Dr. Alpha "Berry" Fowler, professor of pulmonary and critical care medicine, Virginia Commonwealth University, Dr. Maurice Beer and Asa Kitfield, both from NutriDrip and Integrative Medical NY, New York City; Dr. Hong Zhang of Beijing; William T. Penberthy, PhD of CME Scribe, Florida; Ilyes Baghli, MD, president of the Algerian Society of Nutrition and Orthomolecular Medicine (SANMO); Drs. Mignonne Mary and Charles Mary Jr, of the Remedy Room, New Orleans; Dr. Selvam Rengasamy, president of SAHAMM, Malaysia. I, Richard Cheng, MD, PhD of Cheng Integrative Health Center of South Carolina, and Senior Advisor to ShenZhen Medical Association and Shenzhen BaoAn Central Hospital, coordinated this conference.

    Albeit a brief meeting of less than 45 minutes due to Dr. Mao's limited time availability, the audience thanked Dr. Mao for his time and sharing and wished to keep the communication channel open and also able to talk to other clinicians working at the front line against Covid-19.

    In a separate meeting, I had the honor to talk to Sheng Wang, M.D., Ph.D., Professor of Critical Care Medicine of Shanghai 10th Hospital, Tongji University College of Medicine at Shanghai China, who also served at the Senior Clinical Expert Team of the Shanghai Covid-19 Control and Prevention Team. There are three lessons that we learned about this Covid-19 infection, Dr. Wang said:

    1. Early and high-dose IVC is quite helpful in helping Covid-19 patients. The data is still being finalized and the formal papers will be submitted for publication as soon as they are complete.

    2. Covid-19 patients appear to have a high rate of hyper-coagulability. Among the severe cases, ~40% severe cases showed hyper-coagulability, whereas the number among the mild to moderate cases were 15-20%. Heparin was used among those with coagulation issues.

    3. The third important lesson learned is the importance for the healthcare team of gearing up to wear protective clothing at the earliest opportunity for intubation and other emergency rescue measures. We found that if we waited until a patient developed the full-blown signs for intubation, then got ready to intubate, we would lose the precious minutes. So the treatment team should lower the threshold for intubation, to allow proper time (~15 minutes or so) for the team to gear up. This critical 15-30 minutes could make a difference in the outcome.

    Also, both Drs. Mao and Wang confirmed that there are other medical teams in other parts of the country who have been using high dose IVC treating Covid-19 patients.

    For additional reporting and information on China's successful use of intravenous vitamin C against COVID-19:


    Mar 5, 2020 Vitamin C Saves Wuhan Family from COVID-19
    Mar 3, 2020 Shanghai Government Officially Recommends Vitamin C for COVID-19
    Mar 1, 2020 News Media Attacks Vitamin C Treatment of COVID-19 Coronavirus
    Feb 28, 2020 Vitamin C and COVID-19 Coronavirus
    Feb 23, 2020 TONS OF VITAMIN C TO WUHAN: China Using Vitamin C against COVID
    Feb 21, 2020 Three Intravenous Vitamin C Research Studies Approved for Treating COVID-19
    Feb 16, 2020 Early Large Dose Intravenous Vitamin C is the Treatment of Choice for 2019-nCov Pneumonia
    Feb 13, 2020 Coronavirus Patients in China to be Treated with High-Dose Vitamin C
    Feb 10, 2020 VITAMIN C AND ITS APPLICATION TO THE TREATMENT OF nCoV CORONAVIRUS: How Vitamin C Reduces Severity and Deaths from Serious Viral Respiratory Diseases
    Feb 2, 2020 Hospital-based Intravenous Vitamin C Treatment for Coronavirus and Related Illnesses
    Jan 30, 2020 Nutritional Treatment of Coronavirus
    Jan 26, 2020 Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus

    References:

    1. Expert consensus on comprehensive treatment of coronavirus disease in Shanghai 2019. Chinese Journal of Infectious Diseases, 2020, 38: Pre-published online. DOI: 10.3760/cma.j.issn.1000-6680.2020.0016 and http://rs.yiigle.com/yufabiao/1183266.htm (in Chinese).

    Nutritional Medicine is Orthomolecular Medicine

    Orthomolecular medicine uses safe, effective nutritional therapy to fight illness. For more information: Welcome To Orthomolecular.org

    Find a Doctor

    To locate an orthomolecular physician near you: How to Learn More About Nutritional Medicine

    The peer-reviewed Orthomolecular Medicine News Service is a non-profit and non-commercial informational resource.

    Editorial Review Board:

    Ilyès Baghli, M.D. (Algeria)
    Ian Brighthope, MBBS, FACNEM (Australia)
    Prof. Gilbert Henri Crussol (Spain)
    Carolyn Dean, M.D., N.D. (USA)
    Damien Downing, M.D. (United Kingdom)
    Michael Ellis, M.D. (Australia)
    Martin P. Gallagher, M.D., D.C. (USA)
    Michael J. Gonzalez, N.M.D., D.Sc., Ph.D. (Puerto Rico)
    William B. Grant, Ph.D. (USA)
    Tonya S. Heyman, M.D. (USA)
    Suzanne Humphries, M.D. (USA)
    Ron Hunninghake, M.D. (USA)
    Robert E. Jenkins, D.C. (USA)
    Bo H. Jonsson, M.D., Ph.D. (Sweden)
    Jeffrey J. Kotulski, D.O. (USA)
    Peter H. Lauda, M.D. (Austria)
    Thomas Levy, M.D., J.D. (USA)
    Homer Lim, M.D. (Philippines)
    Stuart Lindsey, Pharm.D. (USA)
    Victor A. Marcial-Vega, M.D. (Puerto Rico)
    Charles C. Mary, Jr., M.D. (USA)
    Mignonne Mary, M.D. (USA)
    Jun Matsuyama, M.D., Ph.D. (Japan)
    Joseph Mercola, D.O. (USA)
    Jorge R. Miranda-Massari, Pharm.D. (Puerto Rico)
    Karin Munsterhjelm-Ahumada, M.D. (Finland)
    Tahar Naili, M.D. (Algeria)
    W. Todd Penberthy, Ph.D. (USA)
    Dag Viljen Poleszynski, Ph.D. (Norway)
    Selvam Rengasamy, MBBS, FRCOG (Malaysia)
    Jeffrey A. Ruterbusch, D.O. (USA)
    Gert E. Schuitemaker, Ph.D. (Netherlands)
    Hyoungjoo Shin, M.D. (South Korea)
    Thomas L. Taxman, M.D. (USA)
    Jagan Nathan Vamanan, M.D. (India)
    Garry Vickar, MD (USA)
    Ken Walker, M.D. (Canada)
    Anne Zauderer, D.C. (USA)

    Andrew W. Saul, Ph.D. (USA), Editor-In-Chief
    Editor, Japanese Edition: Atsuo Yanagisawa, M.D., Ph.D. (Japan)
    Editor, Chinese Edition: Richard Cheng, M.D., Ph.D. (USA)
    Robert G. Smith, Ph.D. (USA), Associate Editor
    Helen Saul Case, M.S. (USA), Assistant Editor
    Michael S. Stewart, B.Sc.C.S. (USA), Technology Editor
    Jason M. Saul, JD (USA), Legal Consultant

    Successful High-Dose Vitamin C Treatment of Patients with Serious and Critical COVID-19 Infection

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    ito bago balita march 18 kahapon

    Do our hospital using high-dose intravenous vitamin c or laging by the book pharmaceuticals?



    Successful High-Dose Vitamin C Treatment of Patients with Serious and Critical COVID-19 Infection
    fantastic read! I wonder if these wuhan asshores were vitc deficient...

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    Dr. Mao stated that his group treated ~50 cases of moderate to severe cases of Covid-19 infection with high dose IVC. The IVC dosing was in the range of 10,000 mg - 20,000 mg a day for 7-10 days, with 10,000 mg for moderate cases and 20,000 for more severe cases, determined by pulmonary status (mostly the oxygenation index) and coagulation status. All patients who received IVC improved and there was no mortality. Compared to the average of a 30-day hospital stay for all Covid-19 patients, those patients who received high dose IVC had a hospital stay about 3-5 days shorter than the overall patients. Dr. Mao discussed one severe case in particular who was deteriorating rapidly. He gave a bolus of 50,000 mg IVC over a period of 4 hours. The patient's pulmonary (oxygenation index) status stabilized and improved as the critical care team watched in real time. There were no side effects reported from any of the cases treated with high dose IVC.


    Dr. Mao has been using high-dose dose IVC to treat patients with acute pancreatitis, sepsis, surgical wound healing and other medical conditions for over 10 years.

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