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**shadow** · September 19th, 2022 08:01 PM

Nabasa ko now. 2 warrant of arrests for Vhong Navarro, non-bailable yun isa for RAPE.

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**_Qwerty_** · September 20th, 2022 07:39 AM

nasa news kagabi.. sumuko na sya before pa mailabas yung warrant.. since non bailable yung kaso.. don sya naka detained sa NBI.. VIP treatment na naman.. kung ordinaryo tao yan.. sa city jail na agad yan..

Originally Posted by shadow

Nabasa ko now. 2 warrant of arrests for Vhong Navarro, non-bailable yun isa for RAPE.

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**BratPAQ** · September 20th, 2022 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by _Qwerty_

nasa news kagabi.. sumuko na sya before pa mailabas yung warrant.. since non bailable yung kaso.. don sya naka detained sa NBI.. VIP treatment na naman.. kung ordinaryo tao yan.. sa city jail na agad yan..

I wonder what will happen though. I don't think there's a quick solution how lawyer can do to get him out at least for temporary. Can the lawyer convince a judge that he is not a flight risk? Or tuloy tuloy na to hanggang matapos ang trials?

**_Qwerty_** · September 20th, 2022 10:06 AM

mag issue daw nang motion to reconsider na mahina yung kaso to warrant RAPE.. para ma downgrade.. then they can file bail..

Originally Posted by BratPAQ

I wonder what will happen though. I don't think there's a quick solution how lawyer can do to get him out at least for temporary. Can the lawyer convince a judge that he is not a flight risk? Or tuloy tuloy na to hanggang matapos ang trials?

**Ry_Tower** · September 20th, 2022 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by _Qwerty_

nasa news kagabi.. sumuko na sya before pa mailabas yung warrant.. since non bailable yung kaso.. don sya naka detained sa NBI.. VIP treatment na naman.. kung ordinaryo tao yan.. sa city jail na agad yan..

Not automatic naman na kapag non-bailable eh hindi na maka-bail. If you can convince the court that the evidence is weak, then bail can be had. Discretionary kasi yan sa Judge.

No person charged with a capital offense or an offense punishable by reclusion perpetua or life imprisonment, when evidence of guilt is strong, shall be admitted to bail regardless of the stage of the criminal prosecution.

Presumption of innocence pa din kasi mangingibabaw at yung filing of a case is based on probable cause lang kasi kaya hindi naman kelangan ng sobrang bigat na evidence. Sa actual hearing na kasi yan magkakaalaman.

**shadow** · September 20th, 2022 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Not automatic naman na kapag non-bailable eh hindi na maka-bail. If you can convince the court that the evidence is weak, then bail can be had. Discretionary kasi yan sa Judge.

No person charged with a capital offense or an offense punishable by reclusion perpetua or life imprisonment, when evidence of guilt is strong, shall be admitted to bail regardless of the stage of the criminal prosecution.

Presumption of innocence pa din kasi mangingibabaw at yung filing of a case is based on probable cause lang kasi kaya hindi naman kelangan ng sobrang bigat na evidence. Sa actual hearing na kasi yan magkakaalaman.

Eh para ano pa na meron non-bailable na mga kaso kung pwede din pala mag bail?

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**Ry_Tower** · September 20th, 2022 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by shadow

Eh para ano pa na meron non-bailable na mga kaso kung pwede din pala mag bail?

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If evidence is strong naman like yung sa Mamasapano case eh hindi naman papayagan. Discretionary talaga yan sa Judge eh. Ganun talaga. Yung iba diskarte eh wheelchair setup or hospital arrest kuno hehe

Mas pinagtakahan pa nga yung case ni JPE. Yun kasi malakas evidence during that time.

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**Sweetlucious** · September 20th, 2022 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Ry_Tower

Presumption of innocence pa din kasi mangingibabaw at yung filing of a case is based on probable cause lang kasi kaya hindi naman kelangan ng sobrang bigat na evidence. Sa actual hearing na kasi yan magkakaalaman.

Re: Rape

Sabi ng lawyer friend ko madalang daw madismiss sa fiscals office ang rape.

Sinasampa daw straight sa court.

**sirkosero** · September 20th, 2022 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Sweetlucious

Re: Rape

Sabi ng lawyer friend ko madalang daw madismiss sa fiscals office ang rape.

Sinasampa daw straight sa court.

Rape is a big case of "she said-she said"

Since wala naman talaga normally witness ang rape, depende na lang sa narration ng biktima lung kapani-paniwala at nakaka antig damdamin. Well atleast thats how my lawyer friend puts it.

Alos kung wala naman daw penetration (not limited to penis), walang rape.

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