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    yan ang problema. Hinid nyo kasi alam.

    Sa china ang current tcm doon eh westernized to cater the western market. Tourism yan eh.

    Ang method nila you will undergo accupunture, tuina(body massage) then herbs. Tatlo yan gagawin mo gastos.

    Pero ang old school more singular lang and majority herbs. They will only do accupunture kung kailanga mo. Bilang na bilang ko lang nakita ko gumamit ng accupuncture si dr tan. Alam nyo kung gusto nya talaga dumami kwarta eh accupunture pinaka easiest mura puhunan ng karayom. But sya na magsasabi sayo na sayang pera lang if hindi mo kailangan. Kahit irequest mo magbayad ka hindi nya gagawin sayo. Ganyan ang sensei.

    Dito sa pinas iilan lang chinese na marunong sa herbal mixture. Majority ang alam eh capsulized or yung syrup form na.

    Ito pag popost ko dito kay dr tan eh out of the goodness of my heart.. Im just giving options sa mga taong ayaw mag chemo and radiation. Kasi sa nakikita ko, nababalitaan eh ang sama ng prognosis eh. Ubos pa kwarta mo.

    sa nabasa ko nga sa history ng tcm eh sinunog or tinago yung teachings ng mga old school healer nung start ng communism eh.

    kaya nga sa netflix inaabangan ko irevive yung marco polo magkaseaon 3 na. Ang sarap kaya manuod about chinese civilization.

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    ngaun uso ang Dengue, dami doctor na padadain ka sa sobrang dami ng tests to detect dengue.

    kung dengue, eh di dengue
    pero kungdi dengue, na dengoy ka ng malaki bayarin sa dengue tests

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    kahit mas matagal na ang TCM compared to modern medicine, it's only after the development of modern medicine when life expectancy went up globally

    before after vaccines and antibiotics, a lot of people died of infections

    now we are living long enough to die of cardiovascular disease and cancer


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    after naimbento ang running water, toilets, sewerage systems

    after the discovery of germs which lead to awareness of hand-washing / proper hygiene

    ung naging conscious ang tao na kailangan maging malinis sa katawan at surroundings

    doon humaba ang buhay ng tao

    higher standard of living

    hindi ung kung kaninong tradition ang mas matagal sa mundo


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    which places on Earth have the highest life expectancy in the world?

    European welfare states, canada, australia, japan, HK...

    what do they have in common?

    good health care systems

    China isn't there yet

    Philippines isn't there yet
    Last edited by uls; August 19th, 2019 at 09:38 PM.

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    #295
    eh syempre humahaba life expectancy kung umaasenso buhay.

    pero you cannot go all in sa western medicine lalo na ngayon madami controvercies.

    Kaya nga ang tao naghahanap ng alternative kasi nadismaya sa western

    yung panahon ng tcm eh infancy pa yun hindi pa nga namamaximize.

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    #296
    kaya hindi argument ung mas ok ang TCM dahil mas matanda ang TCM

    mas malaki ang contribution ng western medicine sa pag haba ng buhay ng tao sa buong mundo kesa sa TCM

    ang alam ko lang malaking contribution ng TCM ung artemisinin for malaria

    considered developing country pa ang China

    wala pa sila effective state healthcare and retirement system which countries with the highest life expectancies have

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    eh napurnada nga yung tcm dahil sinunog or tinago yung mga teachings ng old school. Sa nakikita ko kasi magaling ang TCM sa hormones. Kung baga kanyang-kaya forte yan. Iba sa western iba sa eastern,.

    nabanggit mo yang artemisin. Binasa ko talaga dati kugn sino nakatuklas nyan. Ill post it here.

    Tingnan nyo gaano kagaling ito babae. Mismo sarili nya ginawang test subject. Maayos ang pagkatao. Hindi kwarta agad ang isip. Sinigurado muna sa sarili kung safe. Hello dengvaxia!!!! kwarta o kahon???


    Tu Youyou (Chinese: 屠呦呦; pinyin: Tú Yōuyōu; born 30 December 1930) is a Chinese pharmaceutical chemist and educator. She discovered artemisinin (also known as qinghaosu) and dihydroartemisinin, used to treat malaria, a breakthrough in twentieth-century tropical medicine, saving millions of lives in South China, Southeast Asia, Africa, and South America.

    For her work, Tu received the 2011 Lasker Award in clinical medicine and the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine jointly with William C. Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura. Tu is the first Chinese Nobel laureate in physiology or medicine and the first female citizen of the People's Republic of China to receive a Nobel Prize in any category. She is also the first Chinese person to receive the Lasker Award. Tu Youyou was born, educated and carried out her research exclusively in China.[3]

    Early life

    Tu was born in Ningbo, Zhejiang, China, on 30 December 1930.[4]

    My [first] name, Youyou, was given by my father, who adapted it from the sentence ‘呦呦鹿鸣, 食野之蒿’[5] translated as ‘Deer bleat “youyou” while they are eating the wild Hao’ in the Chinese Book of Odes. How this links my whole life with qinghao will probably remain an interesting coincidence forever.
    — Tu Youyou, when interviewed in 2011 after being awarded the 2011 Lasker-DeBakey Clinical Medical Research Award[6]

    She attended Xiaoshi Middle School for junior high school and the first year of high school, before transferring to Ningbo Middle School in 1948. A tuberculosis infection interrupted her high-school education, but inspired her to go into medical research.[7] From 1951 to 1955, she attended Peking University Medical School / Beijing Medical College.[note 1] In 1955, Youyou Tu graduated from Beijing Medical University School of Pharmacy and continued her research on Chinese herbal medicine in the China Academy of Chinese Medical Sciences. Tu studied at the Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences, and graduated in 1955. Later Tu was trained for two and a half years in traditional Chinese medicine.

    After graduation, Tu worked at the Academy of Traditional Chinese Medicine (now the China Academy of Traditional Chinese Medical Sciences[note 2]) in Beijing.

    Tu and her husband, Li Tingzhao (李廷钊), a metallurgical engineer, live in Beijing. Li was Tu's classmate at Xiaoshi Middle School. They have two daughters. Tu's maternal grandfather, Yao Yongbai (姚咏白), was the first Director of National Treasury Administration after its reform. Her uncle, Yao Qingsan (姚庆三), was an economist and banker.[citation needed]

    Research career

    Tu carried on her work in the 1960s and 70s during China's Cultural Revolution, when scientists were denigrated as one of the nine black categories in society according to Maoist theory (or possibly that of the Gang of Four).

    Schistosomiasis

    During her early years in research, Tu studied Lobelia chinensis, a traditional Chinese medicine for curing schistosomiasis, caused by trematodes which infect the urinary tract or the intestines, which was widespread in the first half of the 20th century in South China.[citation needed]

    Malaria
    Further information: Project 523, artemisinin, and dihydroartemisinin

    In 1967, during the Vietnam War, Ho Chi Minh, the leader of North Vietnam (which was at war against South Vietnam and the United States), asked Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai for help in developing a malaria treatment for his soldiers trooping down the Ho Chi Minh trail, where a majority came down with a form of malaria which is resistant to chloroquine. Because malaria was also a major cause of death in China's southern provinces, including Hainan, Yunnan, Guangxi, and Guangdong, Zhou Enlai convinced Mao Zedong to set up a secret drug discovery project named Project 523 after its starting date, 23 May 1967.[8]

    In early 1969, Tu was appointed head of the Project 523 research group at her institute. Tu was initially sent to Hainan where she studied patients who had been infected with the disease.[9]

    Scientists worldwide had screened over 240,000 compounds without success. In 1969, Tu, then 39 years old, had an idea of screening Chinese herbs. She first investigated the Chinese medical classics in history, visiting practitioners of traditional Chinese medicine all over the country on her own. She gathered her findings in a notebook called A Collection of Single Practical Prescriptions for Anti-Malaria. Her notebook summarized 640 prescriptions. By 1971, her team had screened over 2,000 traditional Chinese recipes and made 380 herbal extracts, from some 200 herbs, which were tested on mice.[8]

    One compound was effective, sweet wormwood (Artemisia annua), which was used for "intermittent fevers," a hallmark of malaria. As Tu also presented at the project seminar, its preparation was described in a 1,600-year-old text, in a recipe titled, "Emergency Prescriptions Kept Up One's Sleeve". At first, it was ineffective because they extracted it with traditional boiling water. Tu Youyou discovered that a low-temperature extraction process could be used to isolate an effective antimalarial substance from the plant;[10] Tu says she was influenced by a traditional Chinese herbal medicine source, The Handbook of Prescriptions for Emergency Treatments, written in 340 by Ge Hong, which states that this herb should be steeped in cold water.[11] This book contained the direction to immerse a handful of qinghao in the equivalent of two litres of water, wring out the juice and drink it all.[3] After rereading the recipe, Tu realised the hot water had already damaged the active ingredient in the plant; therefore she proposed a method using low-temperature ether to extract the effective compound instead. The animal tests showed it was completely effective in mice and monkeys.[8]


    In 1972, she and her colleagues obtained the pure substance and named it qinghaosu (青蒿素), or artemisinin as it is commonly called in the West,[10][12][13] which has saved millions of lives, especially in the developing world.[14] Tu also studied the chemical structure and pharmacology of artemisinin.[10] Tu's group first determined the chemical structure of artemisinin. In 1973, Tu wanted to confirm the carbonyl group in the artemisinin molecule, therefore she accidentally synthesized dihydroartemisinin.

    Furthermore, Tu volunteered to be the first human subject. "As head of this research group, I had the responsibility" she said. It was safe, so she conducted successful clinical trials with human patients. Her work was published anonymously in 1977.[8] In 1981, she presented the findings relating to artemisinin at a meeting with the World Health Organization.[15][16]

    For her work on malaria, she was awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine on 5 October 2015.

    Later career

    She was promoted to a Researcher (研究员, the highest researcher rank in mainland China equivalent to the academic rank of a full professor) in 1980 shortly after the Chinese economic reform began in 1978. In 2001 she was promoted to academic advisor for doctoral candidates. Currently she is the Chief Scientist in the Academy.[17]

    As of 2007, her office is in an old apartment building in Dongcheng District, Beijing.[4]

    Before 2011, Tu Youyou had been obscure for decades, and is described as "almost completely forgotten by people".[18]

    Tu is regarded as the "Three-Without Scientist"[19] – no postgraduate degree (there was no postgraduate education then in China), no study or research experience abroad, and not a member of either the Chinese national academies, the Chinese Academy of Sciences and Chinese Academy of Engineering.[20] Tu is now regarded as a representative figure of the first generation of Chinese medical workers since the establishment of the People's Republic of China in 1949.[21]

    Awards

    1978, National Science Congress Prize, P.R. China[22]
    1979, National Inventor's Prize, P.R. China
    1992, (One of the) Ten Science and Technology Achievements in China, State Science Commission, P.R. China[22]
    1997, (One of the) Ten Great Public Health Achievements in New China, P.R. China[22]
    September 2011, GlaxoSmithKline Outstanding Achievement Award in Life Science[23]
    September 2011, Lasker-DeBakey Clinical Medical Research Award[24]
    November 2011, Outstanding Contribution Award, China Academy of Chinese Medical Sciences[25]
    February 2012, (One of the Ten) National Outstanding Females, P.R. China[26]
    June 2015, Warren Alpert Foundation Prize (co-recipient)[27]
    October 2015, Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2015 (co-recipient) for her discoveries concerning a novel therapy against Malaria, awarded one half of this prize; and William C. Campbell and Satoshi Ōmura jointly awarded another half for their discoveries concerning a novel therapy against infection with roundworm parasites.[28]
    2016, Highest Science and Technology Award, China[29][30]

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Puro Filipino ang laging bumibili ng mga pampaswerte pag chinese new year kay Johnson sa ongpin.

    Bakit kaya?


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    I just heard also, pure pinoy nagsasaboy ng asin sa bahay for ghost month????

    Ano yon?

    Para saan yon?

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    Very OT na, pero balitaan ko kayo kung ano maging progress nung sinasamahan ko.

    Alternative medicine is very popular here, sa totoo lang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonleon View Post
    I just heard also, pure pinoy nagsasaboy ng asin sa bahay for ghost month????

    Ano yon?

    Para saan yon?
    kung manunuod ka ng supernatural the series, they enclose themselves inside a salt circle kapag alam nilang demon and attack sa kanila, demonic possession that is







    pede mo din kulungin ang possessed person ng salt, pag di makalabas yun alam mo na may karga

    so Phil. version lagyan ng salt sa door, sa bintana ganun

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