VISTA Problem with existing XP network

[teratoma]

We have 4 XP Pro machines in our small office. The network is connected up to an ADSL modem/router and IPs are assigned via DHCP. My boss bought a new laptop running on Vista home premium and he wants to connect it to our network to access the net.

The problem is we cannot access the net through his vista laptop.. Same naman work group name, enable file sharing, automatic detection...

The workgroup is set up and all file/print sharing is enabled. Can anyone help with establishing network and internet connectivity between the Vista Laptop and the XP machines already established on the network?

Im new po with vista and online topics na nababasa me dont help much... Thanks.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Just wondering..... How are the pc's connected? Is each XP pc physically hooked up to the router which goes to the Vista laptop with the modem or are all the pc's hooked up separately to the router with the modem.

In short, which one is the gateway, the Vista laptop or the router? Which one is the modem hooked up to?

[teratoma]

yung router po sir ang gateway...

[Jun aka Pekto]

yung router po sir ang gateway...

Gateway = Router

That means each pc should be able to independently access the internet.

Accessing each other folders/files is more problematic. First, you need to have shared folders on the XP side. They should be shared and changeable. Me, I just keep one folder shareable (my downloads folder). Of course, all the pc's should have the same workgroup name.

The Vista side is a bit trickier. In the Network And Sharing Center, under Sharing And Discovery, I have the bottom 3 turned off: Printer, Password protect, and Media. The top 3 are on.

Then, I right-clicked the folder I wanted shared and pick Properties. Click the Advanced Sharing button, check Share This Folder, type a Share name in the block. Click the Permissions button, Highlight Everyone, and then check Change and Read. Administrators should have all 3 checked.

It should work.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Let me retry the Vista side.
Same thing with the Network And Sharing Center.

Right-click folder you wish to share
Share
On the block with nothing showing, click the Down Arrow
Guest or Everyone (I prefer Guest)
Add
Share.

That should be it. It's working fine on both XP and Vista on my side.

[zachary matthew]

mp

Let me retry the Vista side.
Same thing with the Network And Sharing Center.

Right-click folder you wish to share
Share
On the block with nothing showing, click the Down Arrow
Guest or Everyone (I prefer Guest)
Add
Share.

That should be it. It's working fine on both XP and Vista on my side.

We are a respected IT (data networking) company here in KSA, iyong kumpanya namin ang nag upgrade ng data network ng aramco kingdom wide noong 2000, pero our engineers encoutered this vista compatibility with xp network. suko mga engineers namin. in the end, bawal bumili ng pc na vista ang OS rito sa aming kumpanya..

kakaiba! just sharing.. kung ma reresolve rito ang problema, i share ko sa mga engineers namin.. bida pa ako... hehehehehehe.. watch mode si ako.. ..

[Jun aka Pekto]

mp

We are a respected IT (data networking) company here in KSA, iyong kumpanya namin ang nag upgrade ng data network ng aramco kingdom wide noong 2000, pero our engineers encoutered this vista compatibility with xp network. suko mga engineers namin. in the end, bawal bumili ng pc na vista ang OS rito sa aming kumpanya..

kakaiba! just sharing.. kung ma reresolve rito ang problema, i share ko sa mga engineers namin.. bida pa ako... hehehehehehe.. watch mode si ako.. ..

We don't have any plans either to field Vista anytime soon at the corporate level. Maybe in 3-4 years. But, not now. We're barely 3 years into XP so far and that came out in 2001.

But, the thread starter referred to a simple home network consisting nothing more than a router, dsl modem, and a Workgroup with XP and Vista computers. It's quite far from and much simpler than a domain-based network like those in most companies. In this case, the mix seems to work although some options in Vista have to be turned off and on before it'll work.

[AeonBlaire]

First diagnostic tool to use in network troubleshooting -> ping!

[Jun aka Pekto]

We have 4 XP Pro machines in our small office. The network is connected up to an ADSL modem/router and IPs are assigned via DHCP. My boss bought a new laptop running on Vista home premium and he wants to connect it to our network to access the net.

The problem is we cannot access the net through his vista laptop.. Same naman work group name, enable file sharing, automatic detection...

The workgroup is set up and all file/print sharing is enabled. Can anyone help with establishing network and internet connectivity between the Vista Laptop and the XP machines already established on the network?

I'm also assuming each pc is connected directly to the router. So, if you have a typical home-use router, all 4 ports plus the WAN port are filled........

I'm just making sure this is the case and it's not some Cisco industrial-strength router (I haven't worked with those in a while*).

*Actually I still do, but from more of a customer rather than a troubleshooter perspective.

First diagnostic tool to use in network troubleshooting -> ping!

That's half of it. Actually, there's no need for ping because both Vista and XP can see each other's shared folders. They just couldn't access. So, it had to be a permissions thing.

Both my Vista laptop and XP desktop can see and make changes to each other's shared folders even through the software firewalls of each machine. But, I still turn off sharing when anyone is surfing the web. I turn it back on after powering down the cable modem.

[JCBalunsat]

I'm also assuming each pc is connected directly to the router. So, if you have a typical home-use router, all 4 ports plus the WAN port are filled........

I'm just making sure this is the case and it's not some Cisco industrial-strength router (I haven't worked with those in a while*).

*Actually I still do, but from more of a customer rather than a troubleshooter perspective.

That's half of it. Actually, there's no need for ping because both Vista and XP can see each other's shared folders. They just couldn't access. So, it had to be a permissions thing.

Both my Vista laptop and XP desktop can see and make changes to each other's shared folders even through the software firewalls of each machine. But, I still turn off sharing when anyone is surfing the web. I turn it back on after powering down the cable modem.

Network guru.

Anyway, to the TS, try what pekto said. If all else fails, check these things first.

*Vista has a lot of bugs in it so sometimes the main source of connection it would pick is the wireless. disable or turn off the wifi capabilty of the laptop.

*Check if the Vista laptop is getting an IP address from router. Since you've said that there are 4 computer in the network, the network is set up this way. Modem>Router>Switch/hub>PC's. Unless of course you're using industrial grade router as what pekto said.

*If you are using a switch, try other ports or better yet, directly connecting the Vista PC to the router and see if it gets an IP address.

Just post any observations that you've done and the settings you've changed. Let us know what happens.

[teratoma]

[quote=Jun aka Pekto;1042051]I'm also assuming each pc is connected directly to the router. So, if you have a typical home-use router, all 4 ports plus the WAN port are filled........

Yes sir Jun, ganito nga po, directly connected sa router un laptop...

*Vista has a lot of bugs in it so sometimes the main source of connection it would pick is the wireless. disable or turn off the wifi capabilty of the laptop.

*Check if the Vista laptop is getting an IP address from router. Since you've said that there are 4 computer in the network, the network is set up this way. Modem>Router>Switch/hub>PC's. Unless of course you're using industrial grade router as what pekto said.

*If you are using a switch, try other ports or better yet, directly connecting the Vista PC to the router and see if it gets an IP address.

Try ko po to sir, i'll post the results pag natry ko na... tnx po!

may comapatibility issue kya un vista sa mga lumang router?

[JCBalunsat]

There are no know issues with wired connectivity of the Vista OS to any router. Sa wireless madami syang issues.

Just make sure that you get an IP address from the router if the laptop is directly connected.

[Jun aka Pekto]

may comapatibility issue kya un vista sa mga lumang router?

I've never really seen a router not being compatible with Vista. Right now, I'm using a older cheap wired Linksys router with both XP and Vista. I recall back in late 2006, I was using an old MS WiFi B wireless/router combo (from 2003) with XP and Vista RC1.

How are you connecting to the internet with XP and Vista? You shouldn't have any problems connecting each pc independently to the internet. Basically, you connect each pc to the intenet like it's alone.

Add: Back to your original question of getting internet access for the Vista laptop, just run Internet Options in the Control Panel, Under the Connections tab, click the Setup button, Setup New Connection, Pick the type of connection, Input any username/password if any. It's not much different from XP.

[JCBalunsat]

I've never really seen a router not being compatible with Vista. Right now, I'm using a older cheap wired Linksys router with both XP and Vista. I recall back in late 2006, I was using an old MS WiFi B wireless/router combo (from 2003) with XP and Vista RC1.

How are you connecting to the internet with XP and Vista? You shouldn't have any problems connecting each pc independently to the internet. Basically, you connect each pc to the intenet like it's alone.

Idol!

Pero ang weird ng problema ng TS noh? So hindi sya makabrowse and makapag check ng folders sa ibang PC? Ganun ba yun?

[Jun aka Pekto]

It's not always easy to network. Just because I don't have problems doesn't mean others won't or vice versa. I get problems too. That's just the way it is.

In my case here, I'm networking fine between the 2 OSes.

This is my downloads folder in my gaming pc which has XP:

My laptop sees that folder just fine:


Going the other way.... The MP3 folder in my laptop with Vista:

My gaming pc sees it just fine:

[CaRGirL]

working with Vista as dell tech support in networks, Vista will see XP, but not the other way around. i just forgot how to make XP see the Vista in the network. hehe

[Jun aka Pekto]

working with Vista as dell tech support in networks, Vista will see XP, but not the other way around. i just forgot how to make XP see the Vista in the network. hehe

Are you sure about that? The pictures I posted show XP seeing the Vista folder and vice versa.

The mp3 folders are in my Vista laptop while the downloads are in my XP pc.

[laklak]

I think most of the problem stems from MS's insistence of implementing their own TCP/IP stack for vista.

[JCBalunsat]

working with Vista as dell tech support in networks, Vista will see XP, but not the other way around. i just forgot how to make XP see the Vista in the network. hehe

I'm not sure about this mam. They should see each other.

[artpogi]

there should be no problem with vista and xp being on the same network.

We have XP, Win2K, Macs, Linux (4 type of distros), Irix, and a lone Vista on our network, no problem with connectivity.

Obviously there are settings there that are not set properly, that's why we have what we call heterogeaneous networks for this type of situations.

Anyway, I'm sorry but I'm too lazy to dig up the solution to the T.S.'s problem.

Did I read it right? "Only" four or possibly five machines on the network and naka DHCP pa kayo?