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  1. Join Date
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    #181
    kaya nag emergency alert ang telecom

    dahil emergency yan para sa kanila

    they can't deactivate half their users coz their income will take a massive hit

    i'm sure they lobbied the gov't to extend the grace period

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    #182
    kung 90% registered the telecoms won't have problem deactivating 10%

    pero 50% is a lot

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    #183
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    yespo, i heard.
    personally, i am not in favor of extension.
    what will these still-not-registereds do in the next 3 months, that they refused to do 4 months ago?
    GOMO just rolled out their SIM registration last week. Way too late

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    #184
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    if there are 120 million simcards in PH and half of them are deactivated, those telecoms lose a lot of income from load
    this is how i see it:
    "we will de-activate your old sim cards. you will have to buy new, properly-registered ones, which you will have to load up, just like the old sim cards that we de-activated."

    ka-cheeng!

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    #185
    Quote Originally Posted by xninjax View Post
    GOMO just rolled out their SIM registration last week. Way too late
    yespo.
    i was waiting for the prompt, just like what smart did, some time ago.
    anyway, i googled earlier today.
    finished everything in a few minutes.
    the difficult part was the last part: "submit."
    the instructions were, to repeat pressing the "submit" button. it took less than a dozen repeat presses for me.
    and to assuage my doubt, they sent me a text message, congratulating my success at registration.
    Last edited by dr. d; April 25th, 2023 at 01:10 PM.

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    #186
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    they can always purcha$e new $im cards when their old, non-registered ones, drop dead.

    if they are in-frequent users naman, then the telcos do not stand to lose much from discontinuing their (rare-) patronage.
    kumita pa nga nang kaunti, kung bibili sila nang bagong sim cards.
    I think the problem is those from far flung areas. Sa news may lolo na may dumb phone, we have a lot of seniors that can't navigate a smartphone so they are using dumb phone.

    The QC city hall just opened a help center for sim registration, few days before the deadline. Also gomo just started their registration few days before the deadline. Andyan din yung mga nag procrastinate.

    Pero 3 months is too long. It removes the sense of urgency, especially to procrastinators. Siguro 30 days would have been enough.

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    #187
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    this is how i see it:
    "we will de-activate your old sim cards. you will have to buy new, properly-registered ones, which you will have to load up, just like the old sim cards that we de-activated."

    ka-cheeng!

    majority of prepaid users keep the same number for years (prepaid sims don't get deactivated if you load regularly -- which is what most prepaid users do)

    konte lang ung palit nang palit ng sim

    mas hassle pa ung madeactivate ang sim dahil sa katamaran mag register

    tapos bibili ng bagong sim which will have to be registered parin

    might as well register the existing sim

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    #188
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    this is how i see it:
    "we will de-activate your old sim cards. you will have to buy new, properly-registered ones, which you will have to load up, just like the old sim cards that we de-activated."

    ka-cheeng!
    No need to deactivate the unregistered sim if they have a "purgatory" for unregistered sim. Much like when you buy a new sim, you can't load that new sim, you can't send on that new sim, but you can receive sms on that new sim. So you can receive otp on the new sim and register it, then it will be activated. They can demote the existing unregistered sim to that state.

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    #189
    if telecoms currently make 1 billion per day and half the sims are deactivated by law, imagine how much they lose

    kaya emergency alert

    hindi emergency sa users

    emergency para sa telecom

    no wonder na-extend

    tax revenue loss din para sa gobyerno

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    #190
    Parang tanga lang nag extend pa. Ganun pa rin yan pag malapit na deadline madami pa rin mag reklamo na hinde pa sila naka register.

    Hayaan na mawalang ng sim card mgs engot.


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    #191
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Kahit naman walang sim, pwede mag connect sa wifi ang phone. Viber, whatsapp and other messaging apps, pwede pa gamitin using wifi.
    naisip ko kasi diba you need a phone number for viber and whatsapp. I guess you can use it until a new person is assigned the number

    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    90 day Extension for the holdouts

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    Down yung globe one where I was trying to register my phone since Saturday, I kept on checking and checking, nung naka tiempo ako kahit na parang basahan yung suot ko and I looked like sh1t, I took the selfie. Now my disheveled look will forever be on a database somewhere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    I think the problem is those from far flung areas. Sa news may lolo na may dumb phone, we have a lot of seniors that can't navigate a smartphone so they are using dumb phone.

    The QC city hall just opened a help center for sim registration, few days before the deadline. Also gomo just started their registration few days before the deadline. Andyan din yung mga nag procrastinate.

    Pero 3 months is too long. It removes the sense of urgency, especially to procrastinators. Siguro 30 days would have been enough.
    dumb phone yung prepaid ko pero I used my smart phone to register it. You only need the otp that the will send sa smart phone. I was also problematic kasi regular sim yun e micro na yung sa smart phone ko so hindi ko rin mas swap yung sim to use the smart phone to register

    Maganda yan initiative ng QC, I hope they do something similar nationwide.

    I also agree that 3 months is too long, 30 days okay na nga if they are gonna do something similar to what QC did.

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    #193
    Prepaid yung sa parents ko.. Ang dali na mag-register ng sim.. For Smart install lang ako Gigalife mobile app, sa Globe naman GlobeOne..

    Speaking sa GlobeOne, kanina pa-down yung mobile app nila.. screenshot_2023-04-25-13-22-22-98_e86d98d5dc9c0a839421654774992e76.jpg

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    #194
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Parang tanga lang nag extend pa. Ganun pa rin yan pag malapit na deadline madami pa rin mag reklamo na hinde pa sila naka register.

    Hayaan na mawalang ng sim card mgs engot.


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    tingin ko the telecoms asked the gov't for extension

    bilyon ang mawawala sa kanila if 50% of their users cannot load

    imagine magkano kinikita nila araw araw sa mga tingi mag load

    ung mga nag lo-load ng 20, 30, 50...
    Last edited by uls; April 25th, 2023 at 06:06 PM.

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    #195
    dapat hindi na ni extend.. kung 50% yung hindi nag register eh di ma de deactivate na yun.. and for sure kukuha naman nang bagong sim cards yang mga yan.. so ma re register na din sila.. waste of time yang extension na yan..

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    tingin ko the telecoms asked the gov't for extension

    bilyon ang mawawala sa kanila if 50% of their users cannot load

    imagine magkano kinikita nila araw araw sa mga tingi mag load

    ung mga nag lo-load ng 20, 30, 50...

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    #196
    Ugali ng mga pinoy yan ganyan, kaya yun mga mag register dapat kahapon eh sa July 24 nanaman mag register ulit.

    Wala kwenta extension, you're just rewarding mga engot at procrastinators


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    #197
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ugali ng mga pinoy yan ganyan, kaya yun mga mag register dapat kahapon eh sa July 24 nanaman mag register ulit.

    Wala kwenta extension, you're just rewarding mga engot at procrastinators


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    Hindi naman siguro lahat sir.. gaya nung gomo sim dati sabi no need to register pero bigla nalang nila binago ang app and dimo na magagamit not unless mag register ka, wala ka naman marereceive na text from gomo if naka lagay sa pocket wifi ung sim...

    another example is yung corporate account sa globe, dati no need to register, tapos biglang need to register na...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erick Chavez View Post
    Hindi naman siguro lahat sir.. gaya nung gomo sim dati sabi no need to register pero bigla nalang nila binago ang app and dimo na magagamit not unless mag register ka, wala ka naman marereceive na text from gomo if naka lagay sa pocket wifi ung sim...

    another example is yung corporate account sa globe, dati no need to register, tapos biglang need to register na...
    for months, smart was text barraging us to register, making it easy for us.
    just press one button to register, literally!
    we even thought at first, that it was a scam.

    globe...
    until last sunday,
    ni ha, ni ho!

    gomo,
    nevair!
    going to the physical globe store, "hindi po samin yan. gomo po yan." but they did not clue us in, on how to go gomo registration.
    i had to inquire from third parties, i.e., tsikot.com folks.
    Last edited by dr. d; April 26th, 2023 at 11:32 AM.

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    #199
    I think another thing that worries the Telcos is if ma deactivate, ano ang bibilhin? Will they stick to the same brand or lilipat dahil sa inis na naputulan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ugali ng mga pinoy yan ganyan, kaya yun mga mag register dapat kahapon eh sa July 24 nanaman mag register ulit.

    Wala kwenta extension, you're just rewarding mga engot at procrastinators


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    diba there's that saying... when you owe the bank a million the bank owns you

    when you owe the bank billions you own the bank

    not a perfect analogy but it's like mobile users called the telecoms/government's bluff

    the threat of sim deactivation was suppose to scare people into registering their sims

    50% of the users are like "sige deactivate niyo"

    deactivating that many sims will be devastating to telecoms

    di kaya ng telecoms so inextend ng gobyerno

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