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    #241
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    I guess a huge number of those sims are no longer active, kaya ang daming unregistered.
    pero telcos know naman pag matagal na inactive ang sim

    ung taon na walang load

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    we might be underestimating the consuming public.
    it is reasonably cheap and ubiquitously easy to buy a sim card, 'wag lang pihikan sa numbers combination.
    heh heh.
    but it seems telcos aren't willing to bet 85M deactivated sims will quickly be replaced with new sims

    they may know their business better than regular folks

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    pero telcos know naman pag matagal na inactive ang sim

    ung taon na walang load
    some sim cards have never expiring loads yata like Gomo? active pa din sya sa system hanggat may natitirang data, pero nawala na ng owner yung simcard. not sure though
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    #244
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    "pag nadeactivate bibili ng bagong sim"

    from 170M sims to 85M sims then back to 170M sims real quick?

    really?

    it took time and a lot of work for telcos to reach the current number of users

    you wipe out half of those ya think they'll get back to that number in a week? in a month?

    no way
    Im thinking people who use their sims actively will have impetus to buy a new one once deactivated na yung current na unregistered. Those who don't use theirs much in the first place, wala masyadong loss i think.

    Tingin ko masmalaki impact nung... Kung nadeactivate yung sim, ang bibilhin ba na sim sa network mo pa din? You could lose subscribers this way, mawawala yung nagmamaintain lang ng sim not because of better service but because of the hassle in switching. Kung bibili ka, yung pinaka-available na kukunin mo. Also, kung di sila maka-register due to problems like 'walang valid id', after deactivation, di pa din sila makakabili ng sim kasi required na iregister. Yun yung loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    but it seems telcos aren't willing to bet 85M deactivated sims will quickly be replaced with new sims

    they may know their business better than regular folks
    Kahit naman 10M lang ang ma-deactivate, aangal na sila. They might just be exaggerating the 85M. For all we know, more than half of those were already inactive.

    110M ang population natin, and ilan lang dyan ang meron mobile phones that require simcards? Yes, a lot of people own more than 1 sim, pero hindi siguro aabot ng 170M active sim cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n_spinner06 View Post
    Im thinking people who use their sims actively will have impetus to buy a new one once deactivated na yung current na unregistered. Those who don't use theirs much in the first place, wala masyadong loss i think.

    Tingin ko masmalaki impact nung... Kung nadeactivate yung sim, ang bibilhin ba na sim sa network mo pa din? You could lose subscribers this way, mawawala yung nagmamaintain lang ng sim not because of better service but because of the hassle in switching. Kung bibili ka, yung pinaka-available na kukunin mo. Also, kung di sila maka-register due to problems like 'walang valid id', after deactivation, di pa din sila makakabili ng sim kasi required na iregister. Yun yung loss.

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    the telcos asked the gov't for extension

    there's no other reason except money

    they know their business

    they know what will happen to their income if half the sims are deactivated

    kung insignificant ang loss nasunod sana ang deadline

    looks like significant ang magiging loss kaya naextend

    that's the bottom line

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    Definite na malaki ang impact sa telcos.

    Like Smart, spend huge sum to ask subscribers to register; they got Maine Mendoza to deliver the message, then produce an ad, bought air time sa tv stations.

    Malaking gastos yun, kung hindi sila affected bat pa sila gagastos?

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    #249
    Tama si n_spinner06.

    From a business standpoint, business people hate uncertainties, risk yun eh. Kung monopolize mo, ok lang, pero hindi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetlucious View Post
    Definite na malaki ang impact sa telcos.

    Like Smart, spend huge sum to ask subscribers to register; they got Maine Mendoza to deliver the message, then produce an ad, bought air time sa tv stations.

    Malaking gastos yun, kung hindi sila affected bat pa sila gagastos?
    yep

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    #251
    dalawa lang naman ang malaking telco

    kung nabadtrip customer ng globe pumunta sa smart

    eh sigurado meron din nabadtrip na customer ng smart pumunta sa globe

    net zero

    ang net loss ung combined 170m sims ng 2 telco which could go down to 85m sims and there's no guarantee they'll ever recover that number

    kahit bumalik sa 110M net loss parin

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    #252
    Wow!! New 85M sim cards ano kaya itsura nun kapag naka-pile up.. Ginto ba yung chip? Ang dami!! Hahahahahaha [emoji23]
    Meron kaya ganun kadaming prepaid sim card na available sa market..
    Magandang negosyo ito ah, mag-hoard na ng Prepaid sim card tapos ibenta ng mahal kapag nagkaubusan..
    [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

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    #253
    naghanap ako sa twitter ng mga comments re simreg

    saw this comment with high number of engagements



    nacurious ako who could this be

    she's a lawyer pala

    binasa ko mga tweets niya... she got personality... nakakatuwa mga tweets niya

    she's anti-bbm
    Last edited by uls; April 28th, 2023 at 04:01 PM.

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    hehe


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    Quote Originally Posted by misseksaherada View Post
    Wow!! New 85M sim cards ano kaya itsura nun kapag naka-pile up.. Ginto ba yung chip? Ang dami!! Hahahahahaha [emoji23]
    Meron kaya ganun kadaming prepaid sim card na available sa market..
    Magandang negosyo ito ah, mag-hoard na ng Prepaid sim card tapos ibenta ng mahal kapag nagkaubusan..
    [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
    malamang wala...

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    Quote Originally Posted by misseksaherada View Post
    Wow!! New 85M sim cards ano kaya itsura nun kapag naka-pile up.. Ginto ba yung chip? Ang dami!! Hahahahahaha [emoji23]
    Meron kaya ganun kadaming prepaid sim card na available sa market..
    Magandang negosyo ito ah, mag-hoard na ng Prepaid sim card tapos ibenta ng mahal kapag nagkaubusan..
    [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
    Madami dyan multiple users. Also may mga activated sims na actually hindi ginagamit. Counted pa rin yun.

    First sim ko P900 ata bili ko, ngayong P15,P20 meron na hehe. Sa load na kita, wala na sa sim.

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    #257
    Kung 110 kesos ang average usage ng sim dati, baka ung natirang unregistered 5 kesos na lang average

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    #258
    Fantastic potential for data harvesting and unnecessary intrusion into citizens -- glad to say I haven't registered and probably never will if given the chance.

    On the commercial side, the potential for cold calling/texting will be on an entirely new level. If you think the sim registration law will prevent spam texts, think again.

    Let me remind everyone that this law is from the same idiots who required face shields, btw.



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    #259
    it's a stupid law naman talaga

    anyway...

    why cannot deactivate sims

    why extend deadline

    $$$


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    #260
    The deadline is today. No more extensions? No more scammers sa phone? We'll see.

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