Nokia Lumia series.

**Monseratto** · June 7th, 2012 08:00 PM

Not all Lumia are equal...

Nokia Lumia 610 can't install Angry Birds, Skype, and more | Crave - CNET

Nokia Lumia 610 can't install Angry Birds, Skype, and more...
by Rich Trenholm |May 29, 2012 7:09 PM

Nokia and Microsoft have run into problems with the new Nokia Lumia 610. While trying to avoid the fragmentation issues faced by Android, Windows Phone has properly shot itself in the foot -- with a catapult and an Angry Bird.

The budget Lumia 610 is the first phone powered by Microsoft's Windows Phone software to arrive with just 256MB of RAM -- and it turns out many Windows Phone apps just won't work on the phone. That includes Angry Birds, the smash-hit game from Nokia's fellow Finns Rovio, and even worse, Skype, which is owned by Microsoft. As snafus go, this one is pretty delicious.

**pop3corn** · June 8th, 2012 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by Monseratto

Great you know those facts, that's why Android controls 61% of the smartphone OS market. While the vaunted Windows Phone holds a measly 5% and IOS has 21%. I guess personaliztion is what most people want. don't they?

Apple is worth 10 times more now with that 21% marketshare. enjoy your android while it lasts bec. it will not beat Microsoft nor Apple. these are software giants. android is just a marketing ploy to boost Google's main revenue, internet ads.

those figures don't give any meaning at all. Nokia once cornered the planet with its symbian. where is symbian now? yan din ang bagsakan ng android.

**Monseratto** · June 8th, 2012 01:17 PM

Sorry to rain on your parade OB, but many do not share your overactive "IMAGINATION"...

IDC says WP will overtake iOS by 2016, Android to falter too - GSMArena.com news

Not bad for a company that relies solely on ads...

The analysts at IDC have done yet another smartphone market forecast, trying to predict the development of the smartphone race over the next five years.

The numbers are substantially different from last time, which shows that the very idea of trying to make long-term predictions for such a dynamic market is not too great, but obviously they are not giving up. Here's IDC's table showing how they think the smartphone market will evolve by 2016.

Last year IDC reckoned Windows Phone 7 will boast 20.9 percent market share in 2015 and will surpass iOS, which in comparison will have only 15.3 percent market share. A year later, WP is seemingly further away from the second spot with predictions for 2016 putting it just 0.2 percent points ahead of iOS.

What's even more puzzling is that, according to IDC, the currently dominating Android and iOS platform will be unable to keep up with the market growth and will let their market shares slip. BlackBerry on the other hand will keep pace and will retain their current position.

Given that iOS and Android are the main driving force behind the smartphone growth in the past few years, it's hard to see any of those predictions coming true, but who knows - as we said making forecasts on a market as dynamic as this involves more guesswork than actual science.

Here's what Ramon Llamas, senior research analyst at IDC's Mobile Phone Techhnology and Trends team said about the forecast:

"Underpinning the smartphone market is the constantly shifting OS landscape. Android will maintain leadership throughout our forecast, while others will gain more mobile operator partnerships (Apple) or currently find themselves in the midst of a major transition (BlackBerry and Windows Phone/Windows Mobile). What remains to be seen is how these different operating systems – as well as others – will define and shape the user experience beyond what we see today in order to attract new customers and encourage replacements.
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**hein** · June 8th, 2012 03:51 PM

Why Windows Phone is NOT successful:

- Boring and Flat Tiles
- Windows Name is NOT Enticing, Remember the Virus Attacks?
- Windows App Store has Few Apps
- Different OS requires Learning Curve, Creates Customer Resistance
- Only 1 Brand Nokia Pushing OS Actively

**Monseratto** · June 8th, 2012 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by hein

Why Windows Phone is NOT successful:

- Boring and Flat Tiles
- Windows Name is NOT Enticing, Remember the Virus Attacks?
- Windows App Store has Few Apps
- Different OS requires Learning Curve, Creates Customer Resistance
- Only 1 Brand Nokia Pushing OS Actively

And the disastrous Windows Mobile OS has a turned off a lot of early adopters. Microsoft is having a hardtime convincing people that Windows Phone 7 is nothing like Windows Mobile...

THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM in the IT industry press expresses cautious optimism about the prospects for Microsoft's latest mobile operating system, Windows Phone 7 (WP7).

But I believe it's going to fall flat on its face, and I'll outline here three major reasons why I think so. I also suspect that there are some other factors that are going to work against WP7 too, but these are the main problems that I see now.

First, WP7 is handicapped by the legacy of the Windows Mobile line of operating systems for mobile phones put out by Microsoft over the past ten years. Based upon the fairly awful Windows CE software platform initially developed for Pocket PC gadgets, Windows Mobile never stood out or attracted a base of satisfied customers on either feature phones or smartphones.

It is also telling that the Vole renamed WP7 in a desperate and probably vain attempt to distance it from the clear design, execution and marketing disaster that was Windows Mobile.

Windows Mobile's market share has steadily declined over the years, to the point that it's in fifth place behind the competing Symbian, Blackberry, Android and Iphone operating systems. A year ago Windows Mobile had less than 20 per cent of the mobile phone market in the US and about 5 per cent worldwide, but it's likely a fair estimate that it now has less than 10 per cent of the US market and far less than 5 per cent globally.

A whole generation of mobile phone users have already rejected Windows Mobile and that's a history of bad memories that's bound to weigh heavily against WP7 in user attitudes. Having had a bad experience before with Windows Mobile, or known someone who did, punters are going to be skeptical of WP7 right from the outset.

**marg** · June 8th, 2012 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by hein

Why Windows Phone is NOT successful:

Android and iOS Homescreens are attractive to the customers, specially the new ones.

The Icon based OS has familiarity on its side. Since most phone customers are used to it.

**pop3corn** · June 9th, 2012 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by hein

Why Windows Phone is NOT successful:

- Boring and Flat Tiles
- Windows Name is NOT Enticing, Remember the Virus Attacks?
- Windows App Store has Few Apps
- Different OS requires Learning Curve, Creates Customer Resistance
- Only 1 Brand Nokia Pushing OS Actively

ganyan na ganyan ang phone ko. ganda noh. sa coffee shop nga at saka malls ngaun, nilalabas ko yan instead yun iphone ko and i can feel so many heads turning. bago kasi sa paningin. hirap lang dalhin kasi mantakin mo semi-fitting jeans then on each side ng pockets 1 lumia 800 and 1 iphone 4s.

pakiramdam ko tuloy ako nauna tulad nun ako isa sa mga kauna-unahan nag-venture sa Sta Fe circa 2006. pinagtatawanan din ako din sa tsikot nun kumbakit ako bumili nun car na yun, tapos look at Hyundai now.

ngaun nga eh bad trip lang meron lang ako big purchase, dapat sana by july, naka Kia Rio HB Red na ako.

**Monseratto** · June 9th, 2012 08:29 AM

Iba talaga si OB and his overactive imagination...

**renzo_d10** · June 9th, 2012 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by pop3corn

ganyan na ganyan ang phone ko. ganda noh. sa coffee shop nga at saka malls ngaun, nilalabas ko yan instead yun iphone ko and i can feel so many heads turning. bago kasi sa paningin. hirap lang dalhin kasi mantakin mo semi-fitting jeans then on each side ng pockets 1 lumia 800 and 1 iphone 4s.

pakiramdam ko tuloy ako nauna tulad nun ako isa sa mga kauna-unahan nag-venture sa Sta Fe circa 2006. pinagtatawanan din ako din sa tsikot nun kumbakit ako bumili nun car na yun, tapos look at Hyundai now.

ngaun nga eh bad trip lang meron lang ako big purchase, dapat sana by july, naka Kia Rio HB Red na ako.

Kala ko ba Accent

**roninblade** · June 9th, 2012 10:36 AM

kulit ng comments ni OB ah.

Originally Posted by OB

Apple is worth 10 times more now with that 21% marketshare. enjoy your android while it lasts bec. it will not beat Microsoft nor Apple. these are software giants. android is just a marketing ploy to boost Google's main revenue, internet ads.

those figures don't give any meaning at all. Nokia once cornered the planet with its symbian. where is symbian now? yan din ang bagsakan ng android.

hindi pala software giant ang google; and ngayon ko lang nalaman na marketing ploy lang pala ang android. winner nga talaga sa imagination 'to.

:rofl: