Nokia Lumia series.

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Not all Lumia are equal...

Nokia Lumia 610 can't install Angry Birds, Skype, and more | Crave - CNET

Nokia Lumia 610 can't install Angry Birds, Skype, and more...
by Rich Trenholm |May 29, 2012 7:09 PM

Nokia and Microsoft have run into problems with the new Nokia Lumia 610. While trying to avoid the fragmentation issues faced by Android, Windows Phone has properly shot itself in the foot -- with a catapult and an Angry Bird.

The budget Lumia 610 is the first phone powered by Microsoft's Windows Phone software to arrive with just 256MB of RAM -- and it turns out many Windows Phone apps just won't work on the phone. That includes Angry Birds, the smash-hit game from Nokia's fellow Finns Rovio, and even worse, Skype, which is owned by Microsoft. As snafus go, this one is pretty delicious.

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Great you know those facts, that's why Android controls 61% of the smartphone OS market. While the vaunted Windows Phone holds a measly 5% and IOS has 21%. I guess personaliztion is what most people want. don't they?

Apple is worth 10 times more now with that 21% marketshare. enjoy your android while it lasts bec. it will not beat Microsoft nor Apple. these are software giants. android is just a marketing ploy to boost Google's main revenue, internet ads.

those figures don't give any meaning at all. Nokia once cornered the planet with its symbian. where is symbian now? yan din ang bagsakan ng android.

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Sorry to rain on your parade OB, but many do not share your overactive "IMAGINATION"...

IDC says WP will overtake iOS by 2016, Android to falter too - GSMArena.com news



Not bad for a company that relies solely on ads...

The analysts at IDC have done yet another smartphone market forecast, trying to predict the development of the smartphone race over the next five years.

The numbers are substantially different from last time, which shows that the very idea of trying to make long-term predictions for such a dynamic market is not too great, but obviously they are not giving up. Here's IDC's table showing how they think the smartphone market will evolve by 2016.

Last year IDC reckoned Windows Phone 7 will boast 20.9 percent market share in 2015 and will surpass iOS, which in comparison will have only 15.3 percent market share. A year later, WP is seemingly further away from the second spot with predictions for 2016 putting it just 0.2 percent points ahead of iOS.

What's even more puzzling is that, according to IDC, the currently dominating Android and iOS platform will be unable to keep up with the market growth and will let their market shares slip. BlackBerry on the other hand will keep pace and will retain their current position.

Given that iOS and Android are the main driving force behind the smartphone growth in the past few years, it's hard to see any of those predictions coming true, but who knows - as we said making forecasts on a market as dynamic as this involves more guesswork than actual science.

Here's what Ramon Llamas, senior research analyst at IDC's Mobile Phone Techhnology and Trends team said about the forecast:

"Underpinning the smartphone market is the constantly shifting OS landscape. Android will maintain leadership throughout our forecast, while others will gain more mobile operator partnerships (Apple) or currently find themselves in the midst of a major transition (BlackBerry and Windows Phone/Windows Mobile). What remains to be seen is how these different operating systems – as well as others – will define and shape the user experience beyond what we see today in order to attract new customers and encourage replacements.
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Why Windows Phone is NOT successful:

- Boring and Flat Tiles
- Windows Name is NOT Enticing, Remember the Virus Attacks?
- Windows App Store has Few Apps
- Different OS requires Learning Curve, Creates Customer Resistance
- Only 1 Brand Nokia Pushing OS Actively

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Why Windows Phone is NOT successful:

- Boring and Flat Tiles
- Windows Name is NOT Enticing, Remember the Virus Attacks?
- Windows App Store has Few Apps
- Different OS requires Learning Curve, Creates Customer Resistance
- Only 1 Brand Nokia Pushing OS Actively

And the disastrous Windows Mobile OS has a turned off a lot of early adopters. Microsoft is having a hardtime convincing people that Windows Phone 7 is nothing like Windows Mobile...

THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM in the IT industry press expresses cautious optimism about the prospects for Microsoft's latest mobile operating system, Windows Phone 7 (WP7).

But I believe it's going to fall flat on its face, and I'll outline here three major reasons why I think so. I also suspect that there are some other factors that are going to work against WP7 too, but these are the main problems that I see now.

First, WP7 is handicapped by the legacy of the Windows Mobile line of operating systems for mobile phones put out by Microsoft over the past ten years. Based upon the fairly awful Windows CE software platform initially developed for Pocket PC gadgets, Windows Mobile never stood out or attracted a base of satisfied customers on either feature phones or smartphones.

It is also telling that the Vole renamed WP7 in a desperate and probably vain attempt to distance it from the clear design, execution and marketing disaster that was Windows Mobile.

Windows Mobile's market share has steadily declined over the years, to the point that it's in fifth place behind the competing Symbian, Blackberry, Android and Iphone operating systems. A year ago Windows Mobile had less than 20 per cent of the mobile phone market in the US and about 5 per cent worldwide, but it's likely a fair estimate that it now has less than 10 per cent of the US market and far less than 5 per cent globally.

A whole generation of mobile phone users have already rejected Windows Mobile and that's a history of bad memories that's bound to weigh heavily against WP7 in user attitudes. Having had a bad experience before with Windows Mobile, or known someone who did, punters are going to be skeptical of WP7 right from the outset.

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Why Windows Phone is NOT successful:

Android and iOS Homescreens are attractive to the customers, specially the new ones.

The Icon based OS has familiarity on its side. Since most phone customers are used to it.

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Why Windows Phone is NOT successful:

- Boring and Flat Tiles
- Windows Name is NOT Enticing, Remember the Virus Attacks?
- Windows App Store has Few Apps
- Different OS requires Learning Curve, Creates Customer Resistance
- Only 1 Brand Nokia Pushing OS Actively

ganyan na ganyan ang phone ko. ganda noh. sa coffee shop nga at saka malls ngaun, nilalabas ko yan instead yun iphone ko and i can feel so many heads turning. bago kasi sa paningin. hirap lang dalhin kasi mantakin mo semi-fitting jeans then on each side ng pockets 1 lumia 800 and 1 iphone 4s.

pakiramdam ko tuloy ako nauna tulad nun ako isa sa mga kauna-unahan nag-venture sa Sta Fe circa 2006. pinagtatawanan din ako din sa tsikot nun kumbakit ako bumili nun car na yun, tapos look at Hyundai now.

ngaun nga eh bad trip lang meron lang ako big purchase, dapat sana by july, naka Kia Rio HB Red na ako.

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Iba talaga si OB and his overactive imagination...

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ganyan na ganyan ang phone ko. ganda noh. sa coffee shop nga at saka malls ngaun, nilalabas ko yan instead yun iphone ko and i can feel so many heads turning. bago kasi sa paningin. hirap lang dalhin kasi mantakin mo semi-fitting jeans then on each side ng pockets 1 lumia 800 and 1 iphone 4s.

pakiramdam ko tuloy ako nauna tulad nun ako isa sa mga kauna-unahan nag-venture sa Sta Fe circa 2006. pinagtatawanan din ako din sa tsikot nun kumbakit ako bumili nun car na yun, tapos look at Hyundai now.

ngaun nga eh bad trip lang meron lang ako big purchase, dapat sana by july, naka Kia Rio HB Red na ako.

Kala ko ba Accent

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kulit ng comments ni OB ah.

Apple is worth 10 times more now with that 21% marketshare. enjoy your android while it lasts bec. it will not beat Microsoft nor Apple. these are software giants. android is just a marketing ploy to boost Google's main revenue, internet ads.

those figures don't give any meaning at all. Nokia once cornered the planet with its symbian. where is symbian now? yan din ang bagsakan ng android.

hindi pala software giant ang google; and ngayon ko lang nalaman na marketing ploy lang pala ang android. winner nga talaga sa imagination 'to.

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Windoze zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............

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Windoze zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............

eto na Microsoft Comeback Windows 8 Tablet with what you say is dull boxed icons




with usb, office and the cover is the keyboard. beat that Apple

this is the new laptop + tablet in one using Windows Phone 7 interface. been using builtin Office of my Lumia 800 for cloud word processing. this one's bigger screen hehe.




MS is now going to manufacture both software and hardware. goodbye asus, dell, etc. pano na kaya si google without any hardware dept. to boot

hindi nyo maiwasan hindi gamitin to coz your existing PC will look the same as this once you upgrade to windows 8. instead of using your existing PC, why not just buy Surface, it's just priced at par with the iPad. free na ang Windows 8 unlike if you use your pc now, bile pa kayo licensed Windows 8

eto na siguro ang comeback ni MS

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Nokia stock plunges over no Windows upgrade for Lumia 900

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news...mia-900-236020

"People did not quite understand a year and a half ago what a partnership with Microsoft would mean. Now Microsoft calls the shots and Nokia simply follows."

Shares in beleaguered telecom giant Nokia plunged to a 16-year low on Monday after Microsoft said its Windows 8 upgrade would not work on Nokia's new flagship smartphone, the Lumia 900 model.

Nokia's share price shed 10 percent on Monday, to 1.73 euros, its lowest point since August 1996 when it hit 1.71 euros.

At the beginning of this year, a share in the company cost 4.0 euros.

Microsoft last week gave developers a sneak peek at its Windows Phone 8 software, expected to be launched later this year, but said "it will not run on existing hardware".

"Customers will not be able to upgrade their Lumia 900s to Microsoft's Windows 8," Lauren Pluchino, a Nokia spokeswoman, told AFP on Monday.

Nokia launched the Lumia 900 earlier this year after undergoing a major restructuring, phasing out its Symbian line of smartphones in favour of a partnership with Microsoft.

The strategy has been part of the Finnish company's attempts to survive on a rapidly changing landscape, with stiff competition from RiM's Blackberry, Apple's iPhone and handsets running Google's Android platform.

But Nokia, which only recently lost the world number one ranking it had held for 14 years, announced two weeks ago massive new spending cuts and 10,000 more layoffs would be needed, in addition to the some 12,000 layoffs already announced in the past year and a half.

Observers speculated Nokia would suffer short term damage over the upgrade issue.

"Today's drop in stock price is probably a consequence of several factors, but the upgrade issue is definitely one factor," Ari Hakkarainen, an analyst at Andalys Oy, told AFP.

"The upgrade issue might have a negative impact on the company's sales," Rikka Tuominen, an analyst at Nordea, echoed.

They said the upgrade problem was symptomatic of Nokia's inability to operate independently.

"People did not quite understand a year and a half ago what a partnership with Microsoft would mean. Now Microsoft calls the shots and Nokia simply follows," Hakkarainen said.

Tuominen said Nokia was now reacting rather than acting independently, and "this recent news about upgrading problems indicates that the company's partnership with Microsoft has its problems."

Nokia has made no announcement about future phone launches and "expects to be selling and supporting phones on Windows Phone 7.5 for a long time," the company said in a statement on Monday.

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[B]Nokia stock plunges over no Windows upgrade for Lumia 900

"Customers will not be able to upgrade their Lumia 900s to Microsoft's Windows 8," Lauren Pluchino, a Nokia spokeswoman, told AFP on Monday.

All Lumia Phones in the Philippines are now OBSOLETE.

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All Lumia Phones in the Philippines are now OBSOLETE.

you can look at it another way. You can buy really great smart phones for a lot less today.

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NO WP8 apps will work on current WP7 phones... Dunno if Microsoft will pay Nokia for this boo-boo...

News Here's why current WP phones won't get Windows Phone 8
26 June, 2012

Microsoft caused a lot of excitement when they announced Windows Phone 8, but also a good deal of disappointment when it became clear that the new OS won't be coming to the current crop of Windows Phone devices.

There's a reason for that - the two OSes may look similar on the outside, but they are vastly different on the inside. The new core that enables so many cool features (multiple CPU cores, better graphics) is shared with Windows 8 RT (based on Windows NT) and not Windows Phone 7 (based on Windows CE, same as Windows Mobile).

Microsoft’s senior marketing manager for Windows Phone, Greg Sullivan, says that it's not impossible to port WP8 on older devices, but the cost of doing that would be very high and the benefit very little - WP8 enables multi-core support, higher resolution screens, NFC, microSD card support and so on, none of which will make a difference on the legacy hardware.

What they are getting (as part of the Windows Phone 7.8 update) is the new start screen - it's the most noticeable change in the OS and will actually benefit the current Windows Phone smartphones.

Users who move to the new version of the OS will get to keep using their Windows Phone 7 apps as those will work on WP8. There's no backwards compatibility for the newly developed WP8 apps though and there's nothing that can be done about it - for example, the Adreno 205 just won't cut it for games intended for a Snapdragon S4 (which packs an Adreno 225 or 305).

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not only Nokia will be affected by this, but all manufacturers who provided hardware for the WP7. samsung, lg, htc, asus.

it's a given naman eh, Windows 8 is rewritten from scratch. and this is the first MS will be producing their hardware and software ala Apple with the Microsoft Surface.

regarding apps-compatibility, I really don't care even if I have a Lumia 800. main reason I got the Lumia was to test the cloud compatibility of MS Office as well as MS Onenote for WP7, Skydrive and for Windows 7. so far, successful ako sa test ko and I'm ready for MS Surface. now i can have one location of my files for all, WP7, Win7, IOS5 and the upcoming WP8.

it's goodbye memory cards, flash disk for me now.

you guys may wanna sell all your desktops and laptops and ipads, coz they will all be obsolete once MS Surface hits our shoes. grabe ang implementation ng cloud discipline ng Microsoft. even iCloud is no match.

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you guys may wanna sell all your desktops and laptops and ipads, coz they will all be obsolete once MS Surface hits our shoes. grabe ang implementation ng cloud discipline ng Microsoft. even iCloud is no match.

I have heard that before with the arrival of the tablets and other previous "cutting edge" tech.

Yet I still see desktops and laptops a-plenty. Even conventional style mobile phones are still around (the type with a keypad and tiny screens).

Even my Symbian based Nokia smartphone works well enough with all the features needed in today's internet connected world including wifi, 3G hotspot, GPS, browsing, weather, etc. It may not be the latest tech but it is still tech that is relevant today and doesn't run out of battery charge after 12 hours like some Apple smart phones.

So I'll keep to my trusty tried and proven hardware/softwares and skip over the new stuff... it is so hard & expensive to be unofficial beta testers for big companies trying out "first gen" tech on unsuspecting early adapters.

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Those who jumped into windows phone 7.5 will be as pissed as those who did wndows mobile...

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I think Nokia stands to lose the most. It's barely just a quarter ago when the Lumia 900, in all its fanfare, came out. And now, MS just shot Nokia in the foot by announcing to the world that their pride and glory is dead in the water the moment it got out.

Other major manufacturers like Samsung, HTC, Sony have Android. Nokia has most of their eggs on MS' basket.

It's just bad timing... the Lumia 900 and the (incompatible) WP8 coming out within the same year. Now, if the new version would've come out next year, at least it could've given the Lumia 900 a good year's run before becoming 'obsolete'.

Well, looking at the glass half-full, at least most, if not all current Windows Phone will still acquire some watered-down features of the new OS when WP7.8 comes out.